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So long story short I'm between professional jobs. Market is quite slow here, Oirland, at the moment so whilst looking for something more permanent I've decided to try & see if i can get a job in a LBS. As i've worked in shops in the past & have many years of playing with & fixing bikes. Anyway this is where the conundrum comes in. Basically been round a few of the shops & 1 or 2 have said maybe email us a copy of your CV. This is where i'm a little bit stuck so to speak. I've a professional CV detailing the last 10 years of my career as an engineer but I doubt this is going to do me any favours.
So should i just draft up a simple CV detailing the fact I've been cycling recreationally for 20 years & have experience in the past of working in 2 bike shops or do I cover that in my cover note/email & just attach a copy of my professional CV? So anyone have any thoughts on this? I'd be particularly interested to hear bike shop owners or employees thoughts on this. Thanks F4S
Your CV should support your suitability for the job you're applying for.
if they wont take an engineer, then their loss!
mention the cycling bit in the cover letter and how it ties in with your profession?
CV as it is - That is what you have done, highlight relevant experience in a covering letter if it's from a bit further back
Your CV should support your suitability for the job you're applying for.
+1
Write a custom CV. Highlight the areas in previous jobs that you feel show you are suitable (hard working, self motivated, reliable, working with customers, etc) down play the stuff that makes it look like this is a stop-gap job (CAD, heavy engineering, whatever)
Hmm, not so sure, this kind of attitude bugs me (sorry !) If I employ somebody for a front line customer service job, I want somebody who wants to be a front line customer service person. Not somebody who is massively overqualified and will rack off as soon as something better comes along, not to mention spend most of their teabreak telling everyone else how much better things could be done etc.
All IMHO of course...
And remember that some people work in an LBS by choice as a career so try and remove any potential for the LBS owner to infer that you are slumming it, and they should be grateful for your presence no matter how temporarily, as per fourcrossjohn's reply.
Would the manager of a bike shop understand everything in your current CV?
@ [b]hels[/b]
If I employ somebody for a front line customer service job, I want somebody who wants to be a front line customer service person. Not somebody who is massively overqualified and will rack off as soon as something better comes along, not to mention spend most of their teabreak telling everyone else how much better things could be done etc.
Well being perfectly honest given the choice i would be looking trying to get a job in the workshop, as opposed to a front line service job. With that in mind i have 20+ years of fixing & tinkering with bikes. In this regard i am certainly an above average mechanic & can do most everything short of full suspension inerds services. And the only reason I haven't got experience in that is more due to lack of opportunity to build up those skills as opposed to any lack of ability, i think. However in saying that i would just be happy to work in a bike shop until such time as another career jobs comes along.
And remember that some people work in an LBS by choice as a career so try and remove any potential for the LBS owner to infer that you are slumming it, and they should be grateful for your presence no matter how temporarily, as per fourcrossjohn's reply.
Secondly lots of people work less well paid or highly qualified jobs. These are need just as much as the highly qualified highly paid professional type jobs. And in my opinion deserve as much respect. Should someone decide to spend their working career in bike shops cause that's what excites them fair play to them I do not see myself as being in anyway better. Should I be lucky enough to get a job spannering on bikes until i get another professional job I will be thankful of it as it will mean i will be no longer on the dole & i will have been lucky enough to do something i truly enjoy during that period.
What type of engineer are you?
Mechanical
Frank there are lots of people now going down the i want a change of job route,because they cant get a job in their relevant skill base, fixing bikes at home is no way related to working in a bike shop, for low pay, and the possibility that you may move on after you have been trained by the management, so if i was the shop manager i wouldnt employ you.
Theres probably a lot of skilled bike mechanics out there who cant get into mechanical engineering for the same reason.
Finally if you want to fix bikes set upyour own company doing that, and possibly give a job to an unemployed person who just wants a fill in job.
frank4short - Member@ hels
If I employ somebody for a front line customer service job, I want somebody who wants to be a front line customer service person. Not somebody who is massively overqualified and will rack off as soon as something better comes along, not to mention spend most of their teabreak telling everyone else how much better things could be done etc.
Well being perfectly honest given the choice i would be looking trying to get a job in the workshop, as opposed to a front line service job. With that in mind i have 20+ years of fixing & tinkering with bikes. In this regard i am certainly an above average mechanic & can do most everything short of full suspension inerds services. And the only reason I haven't got experience in that is more due to lack of opportunity to build up those skills as opposed to any lack of ability, i think. However in saying that i would just be happy to work in a bike shop until such time as another career jobs comes along.
Have I got this right? Hels has given her point of view in quite a direct and honest way and you reply with a lecture about how good you are, no? Then go on to make certain demands about respect..
How are you going to react to your new, lesser qualified LBS boss? Will you be lecturing him/her?
I give you 5 mins in the job before you get frustrated... 8)
You could try to leave your CV as it is but it might end up on the shop managers desk at the same time as someone who tailored it specifically for the job.
You could take a chance - walk into the shop tell him you'd like to apply but don't have relevant experience but you'll service the next customers bike for him and he can take a look at your work first hand.
Although saying that it'll probably invalidate his insurance.
I wouldn't employ someone who couldn't be bothered to tailor their CV for the job they're applying for...it just highlights that they don't really want the job.
cv based on you skils - ie say what you can offer the employer in terms of fixing bikes- this is what will get you a job
Relate your engineering expertise [ attention to detail , quality control , doing things quickly and accurately etc] to the job of fixing bikes
Relate your won bike maintenance and what you can do bike related - fitting stuff doing stuff for mates etc
Use profile statement to say you want a change of career becaue you love bikes, kids grow up low mortgage pursue your dreams type thing [ yes lie]
List work history briefly - it wont get you this job
Get some good references preferably bike related from someone as you fix bikes on the side for friends etc.
Offer to do a few days trial for free
Should I be lucky enough to get a job spannering on bikes until i get another professional job
So fixing expensive bikes is not seen as proffesional then,
Junkyard speaks the truth
So fixing expensive bikes is not seen as proffesional then,
Have you been to Halfords? 😛
@ [b]don simon[/b]
I think you've misunderstood me. I was just trying to say that should i be lucky enough to get a job spannering in a bike shop i would be thankful for the opportunity and that I believe it's as valid a life choice as any other. At no point did i ever mention anything about how much better than others I am or anything even remotely close. I certainly didn't say i would be expecting certain demands about respect or anything of the sort. Should it have come across as that way to you then I'm sorry but at no time was that my intention. I was just trying to state in a reasoned fashion that based on past experience both working & personal I believe i have the appropriate skills to do the job based on having talked to the guys in a couple of local shops.
@ [b]project[/b]
I do have previous experience of working in bikes shops, one of which was particularly high end. So whilst i can understand what you're saying re: the difference between a home mechanic & a professional one & training up staff i don't believe in this particular instance it's of huge relevance.
I'd also say fixing bikes is a trade as opposed to a profession though if you'd like to split hairs over the difference between the 2 i won't argue with you over it.
I think you've misunderstood me.
That was the point, I misunderstood and you have to backtrack and explain yourself.
Bike Shop + CV = Beoing fobbed off
email me your cv as im looking for a bike mech.....i may even understand it! 😆
