If £40k+ is only for a few, elite, posts then this may be one reason why so many demanding and skilled roles are hard to recruit for. Companies still consider it OK to offer out of date salaries and benefits.
I wondered what my old job paid now. Back in 1991 I think I got £14k + various additional payments for out of hours work (something that my physician friends did not get, instead being paid at 1/3 of their hourly rate for their out of hours work). £14k seemed fair at the time. That’s now £25,655 (band 5 agenda for change <2 years). According to one of many internet inflation calculators that should be £32,000 to have kept up with inflation. No real surprise that radiographers are sought after, like most other NHS posts.
we are finding that they go back to their current employer, tell them that they have been offered a new job and then get a substantial pay rise to stay
Sounds like a fairly smart move on their part. Though a good employer would have anticipated this and made moves to improve their retention through pay and benefits management. Similarly, recruiting firms need to be inventive and compelling in their offers.
The idea of ‘the great resignation’ had passed me by. Though I’d been aware of some of its consequence.
https://www.wired.com/story/great-resignation-misses-the-point/
Sorry folks, i got a bit carried away and diverted from the OP’s original query.
Employment unfairness and underpaying are a couple of trigger topics.
OP, best of luck with your hunting. I hope you get to take advantage of the supply-side problem for a job of interest.
Though a good employer would have anticipated this and made moves to improve their retention through pay and benefits management.
You'd think so, but everywhere I've worked, the easiest way to get a pay rise is to leave and do the same job elsewhere. If I wanted to hire someone on 15% more, no problem, but if I wanted to give someone a 15% pay rise - impossible, the CFO would have a fit!
You’d think so, but everywhere I’ve worked, the easiest way to get a pay rise is to leave and do the same job elsewhere. If I wanted to hire someone on 15% more, no problem, but if I wanted to give someone a 15% pay rise – impossible, the CFO would have a fit!
Same as it ever was, at least in the last 20 years I've been working.
I work at a digital agency and struggling to recruit front end developers. Seen a 20% rise in salaries over the last 6 months. Seeing lots of senior react jobs for 70 - 90k
Some midweight developers in bristol are demanding 50-60k
Seems a bit crazy right now
Some midweight developers in bristol are demanding 50-60k
When you say 'mid-weight', how many years experience are you talking about? But yep - those sort of salaries are being bandied around now, however I have read lots about a rebound when the industry becomes saturated with people joining the industry and supply outstripping demand.
I have read lots about a rebound when the industry becomes saturated with people joining the industry and supply outstripping demand.
Good luck with that. People coming into the 'industry' is one thing, but it takes years to gain the knowledge needed to be a competant senior/lead (even middleweight) developer. In that time the technology moves on, and they're playing a catch-up game while also trying to learn the basics.
I see so many people who's done a few online courses to learn React (or Vue, Svelte) and think thats enough. If you're going to be half decent you also need to know about accessibility, performance, debugging, optimisation etc.
for us it's abotu 2 -3 years experience.
There's a lot to learn in front end and it's always evolving espcially as it;s often required you have SPA framework experience as well: react, vue, etc
I'm finding lots of people coming through without the basics. Esp those coming from mainly javascript experience. They are lacking the fundamentals: Semantic html, accessibility, css.
i've been doing this for 18 years and still having to learn stuff every day (esp css)
EDIT: We aren't paying 50-60 for midweight but have been told by recruiters we need to up the salary we are offering (40 - 45)
I see so many people who’s done a few online courses to learn React (or Vue, Svelte) and think thats enough. If you’re going to be half decent you also need to know about accessibility, performance, debugging, optimisation etc.
+100!
I'm moving jobs shortly, seems to be a massive demand but from what I have seen that isnt translating into salaries. I'm moving for a token increase but significantly better prospects and I hope a much more exciting company. Geotech / Engineering Geology field so a bit niche.
I try not to look at Australian salaries frankly.
I'm about to start looking for a role back in IT- I left development (and employment) 12 years ago, scratching my head as to whether I've any skills relevant to the current world at all. First hurdle looks like getting a CV past recruitment agents and onto desks...
