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Nothing xenophobic to see. That said, if you hadn't stuck England in the title, I wouldn't know which country you were trying to be "patriotic" about.

Wikipedia - St George

Saint George (c. 275/281 – 23 April 303) was, according to tradition, a Roman soldier from Syria Palaestina and a soldier in the Guard of Diocletian, who is venerated as a Christian martyr. In hagiography Saint George is one of the most venerated saints in the Catholic (Western and Eastern Rites), Anglican, Eastern Orthodox, and the Oriental Orthodox churches. He is immortalized in the tale of Saint George and the Dragon and is one of the Fourteen Holy Helpers. His memorial is celebrated on 23 April, and he is regarded as one of the most prominent military saints.
Many Patronages of Saint George exist around the world, including: Georgia, England, Egypt, Bulgaria, Aragon, Catalonia, Romania, Ethiopia, Greece, India, Iraq, Lithuania, Palestine, Portugal, Serbia, Ukraine and Russia, as well as the cities of Genoa, Amersfoort, Beirut, Fakiha, Bteghrine, Cáceres, Ferrara, Freiburg, Kumanovo, Ljubljana, Pomorie, Preston, Qormi, Rio de Janeiro, Lod, Lviv, Barcelona, Moscow, Tamworth and the Maltese island of Gozo, as well as a wide range of professions, organizations and disease sufferers.

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St Edmund ftw.

If you think being patriotic is about going out on the piss to celebrate some obscure mythical foreigner, then you have a very different definition of the word to mine.

Which Harry

The footballerist manager or the royal type ?

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Georg e's_Cross]linky[/url]From Wikipedia,

Some historians believe that the St George's Cross was adopted from the flag of Genoa, which dates back to 1096. The Genoese flag was adopted from the personal flag of St. Ambrose, the Fourth Century Bishop of Milan who was a key figure in the development of Christianity in the West. St. Ambrose's cross had become a symbol of Milan, then the wider areas of Northern Italy. (Because it was a common symbol in the region, it was the flag of the Lombard League, a coalition of city states including both Milan and Genoa that opposed Frederick Barbarossa in the 12th and 13th Century.) Genoa's patron saint was St. George, and its vast trading fleet carried the association between the flag and the Saint across the ports of Europe and the Mediterranean Sea.

got to be pardew or hodgson now, surely?

Don't think it is in any way xenophobic, God bless St George and the Lombardi's!

This the day when Haringey Council "forget" to fly the cross of St George over the town hall in Crouch End, lest it upset all the BBC staff who live there.

Happy St George's day

*wells up with pride at neilsonwheels vid*

If you think being patriotic is about going out on the piss to celebrate some obscure mythical foreigner, then you have a very different definition of the word to mine.

Throw in a kebab and a fight and surely you have the very personification of everything it means to be English

If you think being patriotic is about going out on the piss to celebrate some obscure mythical foreigner, then you have a very different definition of the word to mine.

Seems to work OK for the Irish, and anyone who's ever been to Ireland, and anyone who's ever owned anything Irish, and anyone who just likes Guinness, or even just likes drinking 🙂

Happy St George's Day sassenachs.

Nothing wrong with being patriotic, having a day to celebrate your country or indeed flying your flag with pride - should be encouraged IMO.

mcboo - Member

This the day when Haringey Council "forget" to fly the cross of St George over the town hall in Crouch End, lest it upset all the BBC staff who live there.

really?

Really. Someone made a stink about it last year so maybe they will hold their liberal noses and run up the red cross for one day a year. The rest of the time they fly the borough flag of Haringey.

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Am a Scot living in England, you guys really ought to stop worrying about white-van Engerland, raise a glass to yourselves now and again.

Seems to work OK for the Irish, and anyone who's ever been to Ireland, and anyone who's ever owned anything Irish, and anyone who just likes Guinness, or even just likes drinking

Absolutely. That's why I always make a point of celebrating St Patrick's Day - despite not having a drop of Irish blood in me.

I never knew it was purely an act of "patriotism" though. I must say, it's terribly generous of the Irish to allow others to show their patriotism towards Ireland - despite not even being Irish. The warmth and generosity of the Irish is really quite unsurpassed 8)

Nothing wrong with being patriotic, having a day to celebrate your country or indeed flying your flag with pride - should be encouraged IMO.

^^This. In bucket loads!^^

Of course there's nothing wrong with being patriotic. It is indeed hugely important.

In fact one of the reasons Britain is in the mess it's in today is precisely because for the last 30 odd years it has had deeply unpatriotic governments.

Still don't buy it Ernie.

Yup.... **** patriotism.

Can't wait till we have a one world government and religion is dead.

Swap nationalism for patriotism for my thoughts

is st patricks day about patriotism? as far as i can see its a product packaged, promoted & pushed for profit by guiness

im not sure i need a national day to be proud of the country i live in, also i dont believe in saints

i like knights and dragons and stuff though 🙂

also i dont believe in saints

Celebrate Shakespeare then?
Died this day 23rd April 1616, and was born roughly the same time of year too.

If he'd been Scottish I would be eating some form of offal by now. 😀

Celebrate Shakespeare then?

You could at least have chosen someone who spoke ****ing english !

i do indeed like shakespeare

was he really born on this day ? i didnt think there was much info on him, i just assumed it was stuck on the 23rd the way sweetbabyjesus' birthday was stuck on the pagan midwinter festival

Still don't buy it Ernie.

Yup.... **** patriotism.

Can't wait till we have a one world government and religion is dead.

was he really born on this day ? i didnt think there was much info on him

Born sometime around this day 1564, died this day 1616.

Probably.

http://www.william-shakespeare.org.uk/death-william-shakespeare.htm
http://www.shakespeares-stratford.com/attractions/shakespeares-death.html

Yes, I suppose humanity actually managing to get it's collective arse together and producing a stronger UN, relaxed immigration coupled with fair trading would be too much for humanity to handle.

It would be impossible bar an alien invasion.

The EU has been less of a cock up than you might imagine, before we had it, Europeans tended to kill each other. A LOT. In fact, it wasn't really any better than Africa is now.

CountZero - Member
Still don't buy it Ernie.
Yup.... **** patriotism.

Can't wait till we have a one world government and religion is dead.

I think you'll find this would be a dictatorship. Europe has been attempting a small scale version, and look at the total cock-up that's become. A world government would never happen out of choice, too many people would fight against it.

i think id be ok with it if it was run like the culture (Ian m banks stylleeee) ..... just a loose afiliation of mostly benevolent AIs

and arguably europes big flaw was that it wasnt federal enough, allowing member states too much leeway in running themselves

A world government would never happen out of choice, too many people would fight against it.

Fools !

Not even your Mr Bond can stop me !

Watch out, ernie's got sharks. With frickin lasers. Seaborne dragons, really.

A world government would never happen out of choice, too many people would fight against it.

We need Ghengis Lynch to conquer the World and unify it.

BTW Happy George's Day. [hums Land of Hope Glory]

CASTILLON

When I was a young man I served my Lord Talbot
With bow, sword and buckler I full earned my pay
Till we came 'gainst the French on the field of Castillon
And all we had won it was lost on that day

With the strength of our arms and the good grey goose feather
We'd harried the French for fivescore years and more
Till a young witch in armour brought strength to their armies
And we found ourselves fighting a long losing war

So Talbot he took us upon a chevauchee
We marched from Bordeaux in the dead of the night
Took the French by surprise for they did not expect us
And caught their advance guard and put it to flight

Though six times our number we advanced on their earthworks
Though three hundred cannon poured shot through our ranks
No word for retreat came from my brave Lord Talbot
And we died where we stood on their ditches and banks

With bow and with bill we fought long and fought bloody
We died where we stood would not give back a pace
T'was the cannon destroyed my Lord's chance of a victory
Then a French man at arms smashed an axe in his face

With the death of Lord Talbot our spirit was broken
The battle was over our army no more
We fled through the fields and the woods and the valleys
This shattering defeat it had ended our war

So let tambour beat slowly and banner hang lowly
We are now so weak where we once were so strong
And those who are left must return now to England
Leaving comrades to lie in French fields all too long

But forget not Lord Talbot and long live his memory
Remember his courage take heed from his fame
Then gather your companies and follow your captains
And the cross of Saint George shall rule France once again!

England and St George!! 😆

mcboo - Member

Really. Someone made a stink about it last year so maybe they will hold their liberal noses and run up the red cross for one day a year. The rest of the time they fly the borough flag of Haringey.

Got any evidence of this assertion? or is it made up?

Got any evidence of this assertion? or is it made up?

Maybe it's a [b]TJ FACT[/b]?

so its [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17888928 ]Hodgson [/url]then 😯