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Have a Technics SU-X990D amp, and some Wharfedale Vanguard speakers and would like to run them via Bluetooth. Is it possible to run the speakers without wires at all? Have relocated to southern Spain and now have no carpet to hide my speaker wires under. The whole system including a graphic equaliser and tuner ( I know the tuner is of no use) is over thirty years old and is IMHO still superb. Any help gratefully appreciated.
"Edit" I have Spotify and a good iTunes library hence the Bluetooth, Ta


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:25 pm
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I recently installed a Logitech Bluetooth adapter. Cost about £25. It can speak to two devices (laptop, phone) and plugs into the amp. Does the job, doesn't replace speaker wires though.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:31 pm
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What is the point of a good amp if it no longer drives the speakers?


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:33 pm
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So what you're asking for is a Bluetooth receiver to plug into the back of each speaker so you don't have to run speaker cables?

You'd need something to make the signal voltage powerful enough to actually drive your speakers. Something like, y'know, an amplifier 🙂

Sorry. You'll either have to put up with speaker wires, or buy powered speakers.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:34 pm
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Still want the amp to power the speakers, just wondered is you could do it without wires


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:35 pm
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Still want the amp to power the speakers, just wondered is you could do it without wires

Wireless electricity?


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:36 pm
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😳


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:37 pm
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Thought you might be able to get the amp to talk to the speakers wirelessly. It's thirty years since I last bought HiFi, technology has left me behind.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:41 pm
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But the wires drive (ie powers using electrickery) the speakers.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:45 pm
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It's worth pointing out that all BT devices, phones, headphones, earphones, speakers, etc have their own internal power sources.
As far as running the cables to the speakers, how about under the bottom edge of the skirting board? There's normally a space in order to push the carpet under, a run of QED 39-strand ought to slide neatly into the gap.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:50 pm
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Thought you might be able to get the amp to talk to the speakers wirelessly

You could hypothetically send the audio signal wirelessly, but the speaker wire provides audio and power. You'd have to have self-powered speakers (ie, with a mains lead or batteries) to do that.

TL;DR, no, you can't.

"Edit" I have Spotify and a good iTunes library hence the Bluetooth, Ta

Sending from a phone / other device to the amp though, that's fairly trivial. Chromecast Audio?


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:50 pm
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No skirting board, it's a tiled floor.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 5:51 pm
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No skirting board, it's a tiled floor.

Then it won't really matter about your "good" amp - the whole room will sound like the inside of a washing machine anyway 🙂


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 6:26 pm
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Chase a conduit in the bottom of the wall.

Or buy a couple of rugs.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 6:37 pm
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Solid walls as well? you can't lift floors above and drop cables down the inside of the walls?

Relocate the hifi so the wires go along a wall rather than across the floor?


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 6:47 pm
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The house has a modern version of an andalucian ceiling, it's basically solid with no access from above and the wires would have to cross two door openings so a chase is not feasible. The speakers might have to be relocated in my mancave and an alternative sourced.
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Have seen Sonos sound systems mentioned a few times on the forum,would they be suitable?


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 7:29 pm
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I no longer give a shit, do you want a lodger?


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 7:47 pm
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8)


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 7:49 pm
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Sonos will still need a power source and therefore a cable, but just the one.


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 9:50 pm
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You *might* be able to somehow rig up one t-class lepai amps on the back of each speaker for a ...sort of... Sonos. Not sure how you would split the Bluetooth signal tho


 
Posted : 11/11/2016 10:14 pm
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Individual small amps with chromecast audios on sharing to share between the two speakers.

No idea if you will get any phasing issues or not, but worth a shot.


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 1:26 am
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Thanks guys, some ideas to look at


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 7:19 am
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That's a nice looking space.

Sonos speakers would replace your current amp and speakers - it's a way to listen to music and require only a 230V power socket near each speaker but doesn't solve your problem.

Presumably you need some way of getting your music from your phone to your amp? Something like this [url= http://www.johnlewis.com/logitech-bluetooth-audio-adaptor/p1914119?sku=234342622&s_kwcid=2dx92700012702346608&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=CIOClYyIo9ACFZIaGwod3FoCaA&gclsrc=aw.ds ]bluetooth adaptor[/url] would solve it but there are lots of other ways.

Then you need to connect your amp and speakers.

1) put amp on that chest of drawers. Dispense with bits of hifi like tuner that are no longer needed. put left speaker where that whicker basket is.

2) ignore all the conventional wisdom about meaty thick speaker cables and get some thin white "bell wire". Run it as neatly as you can around the top of the skirting and around the door frames. see if you notice a fall in sound quality.


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 11:05 am
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Yeh, seen the Logitech stuff. Also found the Naim Mu-So last night, they get very good reviews and looks subtle.


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 4:03 pm
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Yep, but you're back replacing your current Amp and speakers with a MuSo.

Sonos Amp is the half way house - keep your speakers, dump your amp.
http://www.sonos.com/en-gb/shop/connectamp.html

and there are much better things to connect to your current Amp (if you want to keep using it) than a Bluetooth adaptor. Mainly depending on where your music is stored. An Apple TV works well if you're using a Mac/iPhone and gives you "Spotify Connect" so that Spotify streams directly to the device and your phone works as a remote control. That means the music doesn't stop if you use your phone for other things.

If you're not using Apple devices https://gramofon.com/index.html is supposed to do a Sonos like thing and Spotify.


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 4:39 pm
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Mhmm, looks Ok Will do some research. Many thanks


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 4:47 pm
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I got a sonos and uploaded all my music to google music (free!).

It is really good but .....

I bought a google chrome audio dongle for £35 and plugged into the back of my amp/old radio a get just about the same functionality, better sound, for a fraction of the price.


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 6:28 pm
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You could just get some really big rugs and run flat cable under it.

That's what I did. Whole house is either tiled or wooden floors, so it sounds terrible. A couple of big heavy rugs made it sound a lot better. And the cables are hidden too.


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 6:34 pm
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[i]You could just get some really big rugs and run flat cable under it.[/i]

Yeah, with a Google Audio cast thing for the wireless.


 
Posted : 12/11/2016 6:49 pm