Elected by a similar system to Holyrood ie constituencies plus top up list.
Who will decide this? Last time we had a vote on proportional representation it was massively (I've decided to go for TJ alike hyperbole from now on...) defeated, and presumably the mood hasn't sifted since then, so it'll get shot down at the first hurdle.
nickc - the system voted on for westminster was so flawed that even pro PR people wouldn't vote for it and had both tory and labour campaigning against it.
"Maybe, in the forlorn, backward neck of the woods you call home"
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TJ do you honestly think the Conservative and Labour parties would welcome with open arms their own removal from power? Both of these parties are committed to the idea of a United Kingdom. Reform in the way you suggest isn't a goer.
I'm assuming that all anti Brexit types will agree that this is flawed. Surely in the spirit of union we should actually reduce the power of the subordinate regions with one central government. Only issues that have no effect on other regions should be decided by local assembly.
Last time we had a vote on proportional representation
When was that? I dont recall one ever happened unless you are confusing Alternate Vote referendum with a PR one.
Last time we had a vote on proportional representation
Never happened.
Or are you referring to the 1997 referendum North of the border?
[ edit - sorry people of wales - you as well ]
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I’m assuming that all anti Brexit types will agree that this is flawed. Surely in the spirit of union we should actually reduce the power of the subordinate regions with one central government. Only issues that have no effect on other regions should be decided by local assembly.
Come back to us after you've cleared this with all parties in NI. 🙂
London Zones 1-5 is the only part of the country keeping you lot sane.
HA HA HA! I’m assuming this is a joke, right?
compare edinburgh to london you get the same sort of ratio and IIRC its within the M25
As in, for a major urban area in Scotland and a major urban area in England you get about the same amount of spend per head on public transport?
No =- as in you get around 100X the spend on public transport in London than in Edinburgh
per head?
Can't remember honestly.
Its crossrail and the TFL subsidy that distorts it all. Londons transport is hugely subsidised at general cost to the rest of the UK.
I don't have a particular dog in this fight. I live close to london but don't particularly like that fact and don't commute in (why don't I move? this is where friends and family are, it's home). It's just a) your 100x number seems extremely high and b) don't London and surroundings pay significantly more tax to balance it out?
I don't have the numbers to hand, so I confess I'm resorting to a little light googling here-
https://www.economist.com/britain/2017/07/29/does-london-get-a-better-deal-than-the-regions
The 100X was a stat I picked up comparing londons state spending on public transport compared to scotlands. London of course has 3x the population of scotland and the tax is raised in London is bogus as a lot of that is based on UK wide activity reported in London.
I'll see if I can fact check it.
Edit - I can't find it now. Lets just agree london gets a lot more spending than anywhere else. My guess is the 100x was a snapshot figure made to make a political point.
can tell any story you want with statisitics.
Scotrail annual passenger figures
Waterloo station annual passenger figures
one of the above is ca. 10% higher than the other
TFL passenger figures are 15 times Scotrail figures, but of course one could pick any arbitrary region to compare. And with one being massive population in a tiny area (plus even more population from surrounding areas commuting daily), and the other a relatively tiny population in a huge area, I don't think you can compare.
Plus a lot of what is labelled as "London" transport infrastructure, is really "London plus a lot of the home counties".
Replace Royal Fam with the Beckhams.
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PR
Get rid of regional parliaments. Or have more to replace Westminster- number of MPs staying the same.
We don't have any"regional" parliaments. We have two national devolved parliaments and an assembly. Then there's the UK parliament which claims suprenacy over the UK , crown dependencies and the overseas territories. I don't believe the UK can change, but if it could I would like a fully federal system, which would mean an end to that claim of supremacy.
Transport spending, per a head, is 10x greater in London than Yorkshire & Humber. Don't know about other regions… I believe spending in the North West is higher than over this side… Don't know about Scotland.
We have two national devolved parliaments and an assembly.
Two assemblies, one parliament, no? Okay, one of the assemblies is completely out of action, for now, but there's still only one devolved parliament.