[Closed] Coffee pricier than beer moan.

cfinnimore - Member

... but cummaaaaaaaan..... CUMMAAAAAAAAN !

Peter Griffin would agree. 😆

They sell beer in half pints ? That makes it £3.60 a pint tops... I wish I could get a pint here for £3.60 !!! I wouldn't be complaining.

...bet it's shit coffee too.

Anyone who orders coffee in a pub needs frog marching out of the door, possibly at gunpoint, then given a proper shoeing by a lynch mob of angry regulars, to teach them the error of their ways about what a total pain in the arse they're being! Then if/when they've regained consciousness, pointed beaten and bleeding in the direction of one or more of the approximately 9 ****ing million coffee shops that are now cluttering up the nation! 👿

It's a sign.

Give in and drink beer.

Beer better value, great!

binners - Member

... Then if/when they've regained consciousness, pointed beaten and bleeding in the direction of one or more of the approximately 9 ****ing million coffee shops that are now cluttering up the nation!

Your pub will soon be a cafe ... 😆

binners - Member
Anyone who orders coffee in a pub needs frog marching out of the door, possibly at gunpoint, then given a proper shoeing by a lynch mob of angry regulars, to teach them the error of their ways about what a total pain in the arse they're being! Then if/when they've regained consciousness, pointed beaten and bleeding in the direction of one or more of the approximately 9 ****ing million coffee shops that are now cluttering up the nation!

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I've had much Cocodamol. I require some motor function left to get home. I have never, ever entered that pub before and not bought a beer.

It won't happen again.

Was ****in Artisan Roast, which as we all Ken is PISH by it's eponymous pretentiousness.

Weeksy, where are you sir? I'm in Edinburgh, it's like a little London. 3.60 Is about right most places.

Wot binners said.

My local has a coffee machine in it, but it's there so the landlord can tell people to eff off to Costa if they want coffee 🙂

His other classic is "when they start serving beer in banks" when people ask if they can pay by card.

By the by, if you ask fir tea you get loose leaf, in a pot, with a timer and china cups. For about £1.50.

That's if you are man enough to ask for tea.

Which, clearly, I am. So manly I have to whinge about it.

Shouldn't have gone out.

Jesus H Corbett!!!! Bloody coffee ponces!!!! First they're violating public houses! And now they've trespassing on the revered cathedral of the steak bake itself!!!

Is nothing bloody sacred any more?!!!!!

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WTF is "artisan" coffee?

normal coffee in a rustic packet at double the price

The company is CALLED Artisan Roast.

They make art..... Oh it doesn't ****ing matter I WOZ ROBBED! Now I wish I had beer and didn't moan like a dick.

cfinnimore - Member

The company is CALLED Artisan Roast.

They make art..... Oh it doesn't **** matter I WOZ ROBBED! Now I wish I had beer and didn't moan like a dick.

Soon you will see more coffee machines in pubs to reduce your consumption of alcohol so that you will be road legal ... driving that is.

Friday evening will be coffee evening out ... 😆

[i]The company is CALLED Artisan Roast[/i]

I've just found their website

[i]The senses of sight, smell, sound and touch form the foundations of craft roasting. All of our roasting team have learned on the job, developing their awareness of these senses, learning when a coffee’s aromatics are at their height, how to caramelise the sugars, and how to unlock the flavor and personality of every coffee.

We have a collection of small but beautiful drum roasting machines at Artisan looked after by a team of passionate dedicated people. The coffee gently tumbles in these drum roasters, slowly developing its full flavour in a traditional roasting style.
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No wonder it costs more than the beer!

Cfinn, I'm in West Berks, Pint in my local (and only pub in the village) is £4.60 for San Miguel.

We don't have a coffee shop...

Is there a more tossy word than 'artisan' in the English language? Is it possible to put some system in place where it is automatically substituted with the words 'bell-ends'

Bell-ends market
Bell-ends coffee
Bell-ends bread
Bell-ends beer

somewhatslightlydazed - Member

No wonder it costs more than the beer!

Crikey. The description is rather obvious is it not. That's how coffee is roasted all over. Machine might be slightly different but the rest is just describing the obvious. I need to learn this trick to charge more.

In my local beer starts at £2.30 odd for session beers and gets a bit dearer for stroger ones, can't see any reason it should be more and I think any pint over 3 quid is robbery, they do serve coffee but its instant cack and tastes like its been extruded through a dead dog, hope that helps

normal coffee in a rustic packet at double the price

In general, put the word 'rustic' in front of anything and charge 4 times the price, or 5 times the price if you sell it at a farmer's market in the home countries.

I nearly fell over at the weekend when charged 5.35 for a pint of peroni. I asked if they individually air freighted the thing to be told it was "premium" beer, Heineken was "only" 4.20 and carling 3.95, and that's in Yorkshire. I'll be glad when I move and my local is a Sam Smiths and I can get two pints, a packet of crisps and change from a fiver.

The lesson any how was never buy a beer for a larger drinker, birthday or no.

tastes like its been extruded through a dead dog

I imagine you can get an [i]artisan[/i] roast that has exactly that done to it, and all for the same cost per gram as a rare earth element.

Recently I went to a pub, restaurant, cafe ... think they are called Bistro whatever. Many were drinking beer/wine so me ordered Americano because I had to work after that. I was surprised that their coffee was far better than any of the high street shite. So not that bad after all ... 😆

i wish more pubs sold coffee.

why don't they? - the profit margin on a £2 coffee can't be that bad.

Sheffield: a pint of the best beer in the world* : £2.80

(*offically)

Ahwiles, that's what I thought! Quality ale AND coffee...

I will pay 2.50 for a sit down, well made, hot coffee with a bit of non stencilled espresso foam.

I am happy to do this in a comfortable, warm establishment that makes no bones about having to charge x as coffee is their only product.

I have a shit beard, a flatcap and at present have espadrilles and denim shorts on. I should love Artisan anything.

I don't. It's poor peoples food with ****Vat added on for high disposable income baws!

i wish more pubs sold coffee.

why don't they?

Because the emergency services would soon grow weary of attending to people who'd been glassed for ordering 5 skinny decaffe lattes, and 2 frappachino's while the blokes who prop the bar up every night are trying to get a pint and a whiskey chaser

And because there are approximately 27 million coffee shops in the UK. None of which sell beer

Having worked in a pub that sold a lot of coffee (more than the Costa over the road) I can safely say during the day itsall well and good but frankly the coffee machine should go off when the lights get dimmer. Ordering coffee in a pub/bar/restaurant after. 6pm should be punishable by cheap instant with uht milk.

I bought a pint of Guinness and a medium red wine in my local the other night.....£11 !!!!
The barman wasn't even wearing a stripy jumper.

well you could look at it like this:

Beer is essentially some barley and flowers mixed with water and allowed to rot. All made in the UK. Served in England at room temp - so no energy costs, and a beer pump is fairly simple.

Artisan coffee is made in an expensive machine that takes energy to run, whilst the beans have been transported half way round the world, dried/roasted etc.

[quote=weeksy ]They sell beer in half pints ? That makes it £3.60 a pint tops... I wish I could get a pint here for £3.60 !!! I wouldn't be complaining.

My last pint (a very well kept HPA, something I'd expect most round here to be familiar with) cost me a princely £2.52. I ordered a half and got my change out, but the landlady obviously didn't hear properly and pulled a pint - I decided not to quibble and have a whole pint, went for my wallet as I didn't have enough change for the quoted £2.80, but when I produced a tenner the landlady wanted to see how much change I had and was happy to take the lot off me. That is a pub I will visit again!

T'other way round here (San Sebastian). Pint, well half litre, of Brewdog Punk IPA*: 6.50€. Café solo: 1.05€.

*Yes I know. But it's one of very few UK brews that make it over on draught.

5.35 for a pint of peroni. I asked if they individually air freighted the thing to be told it was "premium" beer

WTF is 'premium' about Peroni?

tastes like its been extruded through a dead dog

I imagine you can get an artisan roast that has exactly that done to it, and all for the same cost per gram as a rare earth element.

Not quite a dog

http://edible-shop.com/shop/herbivore/civet-coffee

£24 for 57 grams

WTF is 'premium' about Peroni?

It depends where its served. I was charged £9.80 recently for 2 Peroni's. I nearly had a seizure. But then I thought about it. The bloke who served me it had full sleeve tattoos, fashionable facial hair, skinny jeans, a tweed waistcoat and a flat cap. And that stuff costs (apart from the facial hair), and you have to factor that in. As well as the money he'd need to spend on new parts for his fixie

So looking at it like that, it actually seems like a good deal

WTF is 'premium' about Peroni?

The price! A publican told me he gets charged £260 a keg while standard lagers are around £100.

[i]well you could look at it like this:

Beer is essentially some barley and flowers mixed with water and allowed to rot. All made in the UK. Served in England at room temp - so no energy costs, and a beer pump is fairly simple.

Artisan coffee is made in an expensive machine that takes energy to run, whilst the beans have been transported half way round the world, dried/roasted etc.
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Or, filter coffee is just stuff that's been left halfway through the process of turning beans into instant. So how come Artisan is more expensive than Nescafe?

His other classic is "when they start serving beer in banks" when people ask if they can pay by card

Oh my sides !!! Why is Britain so resistant to 20th century payment methods?

Ordering coffee in a pub/bar/restaurant after. 6pm should be punishable by cheap instant with uht milk.

But when I go to the pub with friends or on a works night out I'm often driving, and hence not drinking, I'm often tired too. I'd far rather drink coffee with them in the pub, than either sit in a coffee shop on my own (if one was even open that late), or drink the chemical effluent that is Red Bull or diet coke.

Is this just a british, pub, thing? Doesn't seem to be such an issue in bars on the continent?

Yes, yes, its all very well sitting outside continental bars, sipping your expresso and smoking a Gitane, but this is Britain!

Pubs are for either getting completely wasted in, while stood up drinking a WKD blue, trying to hear each other over the happy hardcore, before having a fight outside a kebab house on the way home.

Or you've graduated to the ones where bitter and disillusioned people gather together, normally to shelter from the weather, or their desperate marriages, and grumble about everything, drowning their sorrows in ale, while saying how they're increasingly coming round to Nigel Farages way of thinking.

Coffee figures in neither of these dystopias I'm afraid.

and peroni wont just let any dive sell it's beer. The man from peroni must come round and give the nod before the wholesaler may install a peroni pump. Too much sick on the carpet and lipstick on the glasses and it's [i]non prego[/i].

Arsewittery from the Bose school of selling tat for too much.

coffee after 6pm should be punishable by cheap instant with uht milk.

Sounds good to me, hate the taste of redbull etc and sometimes out on the lash you need a bit of a pick me up.

I'm fine with the boy drinking and wanting something else, I'm very fine with that stuff not being coke or similar - I once had to clean up a box of post mix syrup which, cost aside, was a bloody horrible job, and having seen what it did to the floor and the hairs on my hands (any one looking for an alternative to immac?) made me glad I don't drink the stuff.

The resistance is to do with the arse ache, (sweeping generalisation) if people just wanted coffee, black white in a mug that would be fine but they don't, it's the same as cocktails, people want fancy flamboyant nonsense concerned entirely with appearance.

Don't misunderstand me, I like my coffee,I have a syphon at home which produces a great cup and if you want a poncey appearance driven way of making coffee one with a dedicated spirit burner is probably up there. Would I expect one in a pub? No, not ever. Can IME most people tell a flat white from a latte or a cappuccino? No, most still still think it's expresso for heavens sake.

On the continent people also talk foreign, drink beer (slowly) from small glasses, eat small garden birds and drink coffee standing up. Do I think because the euros do it is better? Non, on the whole I don't, and I suggest next time you get that if it's fine for the _______ is fine for you, you contemplate cycling/driving on the right hand side of the road, after all, is fine for the French.

<edit> sorry rather more ranty than intended, next time I'll try avoiding posting immediately after coming off the phone to an automated service which kept me waiting 20 minutes to be cut off by an operator on a non-geographical number. Sigh.

Would I expect one in a pub? No, not ever.

Pubs are nice convivial comfortable places. Why would one not want to pop into one during the day and have a coffee?

Beer is essentially some barley and flowers mixed with water and allowed to rot

poncy water is worst. especially in ski resorts. beer (if you can call stella/1664 that) is water that's been processed, and taxed more than most things, but is cheaper than the water that came out of the bottom of the mountain you're skiing on!

molgrips - Member

Pubs are nice convivial comfortable places. Why would one not want to pop into one during the day and have a coffee?

what he ^ said.

or even; 'one has had a couple of lovely pints, but one really needs to be up and about with a clear head in the morning. One would really like a peppermint tea, and would be happy to pay £2 for it for the extra 20mins chatting shite with one's pals'

or has one gone too far?

Comfortable?
Convivial?
Coffee?

Pfft!

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The syphon particularly? Because it takes about 20 minutes, and, as much as it is a good coffee, a pub is not the place.

As far as popping in at lunch time for a coffee goes, that's fine, so long as you don't eat lunch after 6pm. Oh and so long as you're not going to occupy a table which someone wants to sit at to eat lunch if all you're doing is drinking a coffee, fine when it's quiet, not so fine when is busy.

If you would like to order a coffee which takes 20 minutes to make mind they do have syphons in ozone coffee (nice eggs benedict, though personally I found the coffee to be a bit under roasted for my tastes) similar outlets are available around London in sure, (though for those of us outside the m25 most coffee shops will remain green and white monstrosities) the thing is that's what their business is about, they exist to provide that and that's good, don't expect a great reception from them though if you order three stellas and a packet of pickled onion monster munch. Equally those pubs which want to serve coffee (rather than are/feel obligated) will doubtlessserve your double macchiato with a very smile and an ammereti biscuit. On the other hand those who serve coffeeby obligation will likely treat you with disdain, the same as if you ordered three pints of water and nothing else.

20 minutes to make a coffee?!

Best have a pint while you're waiting

binners - Member
Anyone who orders coffee in a pub needs frog marching out of the door, possibly at gunpoint, then given a proper shoeing by a lynch mob of angry regulars, to teach them the error of their ways about what a total pain in the arse they're being! Then if/when they've regained consciousness, pointed beaten and bleeding in the direction of one or more of the approximately 9 ****ing million coffee shops that are now cluttering up the nation!

Coffe in a pub? I suppose you want a copy of the white company catalogue or a PG Woodhouse to read while you're sipping it? There are places for people like you, they're called cafes. Or tea rooms, if you prefer tea.

Pubs are nice convivial comfortable places. Why would one not want to pop into one during the day and have a coffee?

Because one is amply served by the vast range of cafés available in every town.

I thought we weren't supposed to go into big chain coffee shops and support local businesses instead?

Of course you may be with other people who want a drink but you may not be drinking yourself....

molgrips - Member
I thought we weren't supposed to go into big chain coffee shops and support local businesses instead?

I don't think I've ever set foot in an independent pub which also has a coffee machine. IME the machines are the province of the "foisted on us by head office" brigade, or of course, coffee shops where I expect you would find a machine regardless of its chain/independent status.

I thought we weren't supposed to go into big chain coffee shops and support local businesses instead?

If I want a coffee, I use locally-run cafés, not Wetherspoons.

ransos - Member

If I want a coffee, I use locally-run cafés, not Wetherspoons.

But some pubs have comfy chair/sofa whatever ... 😆

Well I'm glad you know all the pubs and coffee shops in every town in Britain so you can tell me what I should be doing. This has been a great help 🙂

Enjoy your trip to the Harvester. Deposit your will to live by the front door.

Obviously you should drink coffee in coffee shops and beer in pubs... I dare say you *could* do it the other way around but why any one would want to escapes me.

On a relevant (ish as it's part of my assertion about independent pubs not having coffee machines) note:

At what point does something cease to be independent? 2 outlets 20? 2000?

I once had to clean up a box of post mix syrup which, cost aside, was a bloody horrible job, and having seen what it did to the floor and the hairs on my hands (any one looking for an alternative to immac?) made me glad I don't drink the stuff.

Try dipping your hands in stomach acid.

Which do you think would be worse 😉