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Ok, not really a car, a Pug 406 1.9dt 1999. Apparently it's leaking like there is no tomorrow. So far:
1. oil change guy - your turbo is running dry and will blow up in a few miles (6.8k miles ago),
2. I don't know what it could be, I need a wash (a guy at the car test centre).
3. **** it, nobody checks it in Ireland (NCT cert.)
Any ideas? I'll be seeing a mate who runs a not-officially-in-existence garage on Monday, should know then but the curiosity level is getting rather high.


 
Posted : 27/02/2010 7:30 pm
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Leaking oil i presume? How much? Can you not put some card underneath overnight, then the next day use the mark on the card to give you the exit point and try and trace it back to the source?


 
Posted : 27/02/2010 7:53 pm
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You need to establish what fluid it is and where from.


 
Posted : 27/02/2010 8:13 pm
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wipe away any visible oil with a rag, top up sump with fresh oil,run engine and look for signs of new leakage, don't worry about leakage if you keep it topped up it will be fine and the oil will always be fresh which is most certainly good, just use cheaper oil to cut costs till you get it fixed. check sump for loose bolts or a crack,check oil filter is tight.


 
Posted : 27/02/2010 8:17 pm
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So long as you're not blowing shedloads out of the turbo seals you won't have too many problems.


 
Posted : 27/02/2010 8:25 pm
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It's engine oil. The tray underneath the engine is full of it so no drops on the floor in the garage 🙂
The engine doesn't smoke unless I gun it to 4000+ rpm in 2nd off a junction. Even then it's only a bit, a small bit, of white smoke. I had the oil changed last Summer, the lad said my turbo was running dry but almost 7000 miles and no change.
The emissions were fine, the rattle of a diesel engine present (it means it actually works), still does 40mpg or better if I drive sensibly.
Could it be a cracked engine? Google likes the idea of such.
BTW I need it to stop leaking in order to get the car through the Irish car test - NCT.


 
Posted : 27/02/2010 8:53 pm
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wouldn't of thought its turbo then, there would be clouds of blue smoke and the inlet tracts, after the turbo-intercooler etc. would be wet with oil. You need to get a torch and get your head in there. Oil don't flow upwards so look for the highest wet spot, if its that bad it shouldn't be too difficult to see.
Good call on the oil filter loose, i'd check that
Good luck - got one myself an excellent family taxi when all the bits that are going to fall off have. 😀


 
Posted : 27/02/2010 9:31 pm
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Cracked sump
Sump gasket
Drain plug washer failure


 
Posted : 28/02/2010 7:19 am
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Stop driving the car until you know what the problem is!


 
Posted : 28/02/2010 7:29 am
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Stop driving the car until you know what the problem is!


Will you push me to the mechanic then? It's only 35 miles across the hills 😉


 
Posted : 28/02/2010 8:38 am
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how much does the car 'owe' you?

I remember seeing this in Halfords:
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10001&partNumber=184523&langId=-1&cm_mmc=Sitename-_-Engine+Oils+%26+Additives%2FMaintenance+Fluids+%26+Additives-_-Na-_-Wynns+Engine+Stop+Leak+325ml&source=shopping&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=lixpmp&istBid=t#dtab

Prevents and stops engine oil leaks without demounting
Restores the elasticity of rubber and neoprene oil seal rings and O-rings<
Lubricates and maintains engine seals in good condition
Will have no effect on the viscosity or performance of engine oil
Is compatible with all mineral and synthetic, single- and multigrade oils
Does not harm catalytic converters


 
Posted : 28/02/2010 9:02 am
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will do the same thing, so I've been told.


 
Posted : 28/02/2010 9:09 am
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Officer: So how did the engine explode Sir?
Driver: I decided to add some baking products to my car

😆


 
Posted : 28/02/2010 9:17 am
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The car owes me a lot - I washed it the other day and since then it hasn't taken me across Europe nor to the Ocean nor to any other new and exciting place. Moneywise? I bought it for a grang, changed oil and filters, fitted wipers too. Oh, and bought a new radio for 18 quid off eBay for it. In return it has been a reliable, cheap to run, big and ugly member of my family. It's not going to be written off anytime soon.


 
Posted : 28/02/2010 9:21 am
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Then stop driving it around. Get it properly inspected then decide what product to use? If its something that is economic to repair you could be causing a transition into economically unviable.

Engines are like human bodies- if you feel ill, you listen to your body. You dont carry on exercising/straining it do you?! 🙄


 
Posted : 28/02/2010 9:23 am
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Old oil filter removed, did the seal come with it? New filter screwed on, seal on seal won't seal, if that makes sense, engine pisses new oil away very quickly. Check the area under the oil filter mount (front of engine between block & radiator isn't it?)

Those pug diesels have a rubber seal around the rocker cover, they perish and piss oil out regularly. I'd suggest a good root around the rocker cover and see if there is any sign of leaking, if there is it will usually be the side of the engine closest to the bulkhead (furthest away from the radiator).

I had a Pug 305, 309, and a Rover 218 that all used the same/similar type engine, all needed the rocker cover gasket replacing at least once in my ownership. Dirt cheap to do, easy to do - half a dozen bolts (ish) and you're away - some piping to remove if turbo & intercooler fitted IIRC. Don't bother with the stop leak stuff for this, it just won't touch a leaky rocker cover gasket.


 
Posted : 28/02/2010 4:33 pm
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Oil filter seal leaking, seen these work loose. Sump cracked or corroded through if its steel/gasket leaking. If its coming from the clutch cover end could be crankshaft oil seal. If its a lot of oil its likely to be a gasket/seal, none of the other faults tend to drop a lot of oil quickly. Does it have a oil cooler? Pipes to and from engine could of worn through.


 
Posted : 28/02/2010 8:54 pm
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It's the hose connected to the turbine, leaking somewhere there, probably the sealing washer needs replacing, maybe the hose too. So says the mechanic.


 
Posted : 01/03/2010 10:57 pm
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any oil in your water? should be fairly obvious. if there is, hg is gone


 
Posted : 02/03/2010 12:00 am
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Nope, just some oil. Shouldn't be a problem to fix if spares are available. I'll get the car properly done up and that should ensure a couple of years of driving without any major headaches.


 
Posted : 02/03/2010 7:47 pm