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4 days top trending hash tag now
I understand it started as a labour viral campaign
Now seems to be a sustained attack on government policy, although the daily telegraph called it bullying 😉
Twitter. Is that how people do something about the government these days? Viva la Revolucion
Its definitely in sync with the Russell Brand style of revolution, yoof of today eh !
You can't deny its influence though just ask Emily Thornberry
Better twitter than rioting or an armed coup d'etat, don't you think?
We have a General Election in 5 months, that's democracy.
Depends, my DVD player is knackered...
I bet there's an online petition to get rid of him as well.
Surely the way to get rid is to vote for someone else? (Not that there's a great choice.)
#WallaceForPM
or is it
#BorisForPM
#BinnersForPM
#save_ed_miliband!
You can't deny its influence though just ask Emily Thornberry
It's not the influence of Twitter that cost her the job.
That's like blaming the influence of hammers for a rise in brutal murders.
We have a General Election in 5 months, that's democracy.
Erm, that's the point of attacking the coalition government's record !
Finally we get a say in who runs our country!
I've waited a long time to be able to take action and influence who get's into Downing Street.
We really need to get this viral...then everyone can sign a petition or something, or mark a card maybe, and actually choose who's in and who's out.
The party that gets the most can run the country!
If enough people get behind this we could get someone like Peter Snow to present a live programme on the BBC with elaborate computer graphics on who's in the lead.
Power to the people at last!
Its definitely in sync with the Russell Brand style of[s] revolution[/s]self promotion,
Fixed it for you 😉
@ernie I wonder what portion of those re-tweeting this will actually vote. If they listen to Brand they won't bother. No democracy in whining about stuff and then not voting
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That's like blaming the influence of hammers for a rise in brutal murders.
You might just be on to something there!
#ban_all_hammers
It's not the hammers fault, crime is down in East London
#ban_all_banhammers
Better twitter than rioting or an armed coup d'etat, don't you think?
Depends on
1. Whether you want change or not
2. how middle class you are
FWIW i think there may be something effective between those options as well.
Osborne does look pretty confused/out of it but I cannot see any Hookers so he may be in the mend.
The party that gets [s] the most [/s] a slighly-less crap-than-the-others minority of what is already a rather depressing voter turnout can [s]run the country[/s] act like they won by a landslide and bin or u-turn on various manifesto promises within less than a year of being elected, before legislating against lobbying by charities and launching a war on basically everyone who didn't vote for them in order to sidestep the mistakes and financial misseeds of their party donors!
Fify
Lets hope all those pushing this online get off their backsides and vote to get him out in May then - that is how it is done in this country at the moment, whether we like it or not.
It is more "real" than the politics presented in traditional media.
Lets hope all those pushing this online get off their backsides and vote how news international tell them to in May then - that is how it is done in this country at the moment, whether we like it or not.
Depends on
1. Whether you want change or not
2. how middle class you are
3. if you own a business, property or car in the riot zone
Twitter is the ideal tool to mobilise the vote, and that's the best way to get rid of a politician.
Lets hope all those pushing this online get off their backsides and vote how news international tell them to in May then - that is how it is done in this country at the moment, whether we like it or not.
This has truth in it!! Thing is, who the hell do you actually vote for?? They are all arseholes fulfilling their own greedy needs and sorting out their own gains.
Protest vote!!!!
The people most likely to be affected by this campaign are probably mostly not current voters. Bear in mind the likes of Cameron win by around 10% of the electorate when another 30-40% don't even turn out.
Twitter is the ideal tool to mobilise the vote,
Course it is all those non voters are definitely massive tweeters and heavily influenced by social media
beyond the odd scalp twitter campaigns will do nothing compared to what direct action has and could achieve. FWIW voting would be direct action tweetign would be moaning
if its the younger demographic getting engaged in politics thats not a bad thing
average daily mail reader: 58 yrs old
average twitter user: 26 years old
whether that translates into people voting I have no idea
2010 turnout by age
age ... C L LD [b]turnout[/b]
18-24 30 31 30 [b]44%[/b]
25-34 35 30 29 [b]55%[/b]
35-44 34 31 26 [b]66%[/b]
45-54 34 28 26 [b]69%[/b]
55-64 38 28 23 [b]73%[/b]
65+ .. 44 31 16 [b]76%[/b]
It is a bit like a religion thread on here, rather than atheists taking to themselves, it's lefties talking to themselves and luxuriating in that wonderful glow of self-satisfaction that they are achieving something. Meanwhile in the real world ...
If only I could remember my Twitter account details! Definitely a protest vote.
#kickthelyingpensionsmashingscumoutbeforetheydestroythefireservice
#hoop
Cant think of one ting camerroooon has done for the benefit of uk plc, but one thing he could do now for the benefit of uk plc is to RESIGN.
It should be called bleating not tweeting, cos they are all just sheep.
[quote=project ]Cant think of one ting camerroooon has done for the benefit of uk plc, but one thing he could do now for the benefit of uk plc is to RESIGN.
Interesting. #BorisForPM is your desired result then?
Go where?
Interesting. #BorisForPM is your desired result then?
at least he rides a bike,looks daft, acts thick sometimes, has a laugh, but has absolutely no chance of winning an election
Dezb ....... closer to daily mail avg than twitter avg 😉
Tbf twitter is often a big circle jerk of likeinded wingers, but then this is stw.....
Now, I'm no fan of Cameron, the Conservatives, or the coalition, but can someone explain to me what this person's logic is?
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Surely the graph is showing the opposite of what the twitterer is saying - it seems to be showing that the 'austerity' plan is working, unless they thought the debt line should turn on a sixpence and start going down within moments of election day?
Go where?
Tuscany, probably, again.
at least he rides a bike,looks daft, acts thick sometimes, has a laugh, but has absolutely no chance of winning an election
This would be the elected Mayor of London?
FWIW I think we're in for another hung parliament, and I can't see the LDs rushing into another coalition if they're not obliterated. Much as though the Tories are unpopular (having pulled stunts like a top-down reorganisation of the NHS having been elected on a mandate of... not having another top-down reorganisation of the NHS, not to mention basic competence issues) the current Labour front bench are worse, lurch from disaster to disaster and anyone with any talent in the PLP is keeping their head down for a leadership bid post-election.
It's all very well saying CMD must go, but think of the alternatives
Tory minority/coalition - Osbourne or May supported by a lib dem or God forbid UKIP. Hard to imagine anything worse and then you remember the alternative
Labour minority/coalition - EDx2, Yvette or Rache, Alexander or the self-appointed peoples choice of Burnham combined with uncle Vince screwing up the finances
Hard to imagine which is worse.
The twitter feed is correct about the austerity lie but not for the reasons stated!
Osbourne or May supported by a lib dem or God forbid UKIP. Hard to imagine anything worse and then you remember the alternative
Won't be Osbourne. Apparently he realises that he's not got the right public skills/persona to be PM (which I suppose is better than the last Chancellor to end up as PM).
Boris or May is more likely. I don't know which is more chilling.
Labour minority/coalition - EDx2, [b]Yvette[/b] or Rache
Presumably this would give Ms Cooper her longed-for opportunity to be patronising to the entire country?
judging by osbornes appearance at PMQs today he was back to his coke n hookers partying tlast night
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May (like Prescott before her) has one impressive record - the ability to screw pretty much every initiative up. How could she be considered as a PM other than as a token?
Very few have the persona to be a true statesman
May is amazing isn't she. Quite funny, our ukvi contact just quit, she told me "I worked through Howard, and I worked through Blunkett, and I didn't see how it could possibly get worse..."
[i]@ernie I wonder what portion of those re-tweeting this will actually vote.[/i]
most of my friends have registered for the first time, of the three currently in the room (inc me) we're all green.
most of my friends have registered for the first time, of the three currently in the room (inc me) we're all green.
Well that's the vegetable rights for tofu knitters sorted, any economic policies?
May (like Prescott before her) has one impressive record - the ability to screw pretty much every initiative up. How could she be considered as a PM other than as a token?Very few have the persona to be a true statesman
I think May is quite interesting - her speech to the Police Federation was pretty ballsy and there are not many Tories that the Voice has said they might be able to work with.
duntstick - MemberWell that's the vegetable rights for tofu knitters sorted, any economic policies?
The best thing about the Green Party is the fact that it is the only major party in England that is social-democratic. The reason their support and membership is growing is precisely because it now has clear policies beyond just environmental issues.
You need to pay more attention duntstick.
Better twitter than rioting or an armed coup d'etat, don't you think?
Errm......#whatshouldwedotoreallychangethings?
Why does he need to pay attention? The greens sit largely unnoticed at 4% in the polls. Hardly swinging the needle in any direction. Meanwhile the nutters in UKIP get 5x as much support in the polls.
How many people are lining up for 35 hour weeks and less car use as their top priorities?
Very few have the persona to be a true statesman
Its all in the schooling what what 😕
Funnily enough....,.
Why does he need to pay attention?
The reason I stated. If you missed it in my rather short post let me repeat it for you : The reason their support and membership is growing is precisely because it now has clear policies beyond just environmental issues.
duntstick's smartarse comment [i]"Well that's the vegetable rights for tofu knitters sorted"[/i] implied limit policies which is clearly a misrepresentation.
I suspect that Green Party policies such as these appeal to emsz
The Greens have always been firmly committed to equal
rights. We were the first party in England to support
marriage equality, and MP Caroline Lucas has done much
in Westminster to fight for equal pension rights for same
sex couples. Both English Green MEPs are members of the Intergroup on Gay and Lesbian rights and have fought for equality across Europe. They have been powerful advocates
for the European Court enshrining the legality of LGBTIQ
anti-discrimination laws and tackling homophobia around
the world.
Their work has shown that European Union has a strong
role in advancing LGBTIQ rights. Greens are proud of our
track record of fighting for LGBTIQ rights across Europe. The
Green Group of MEPs, more so than any other group, have
been uniformly committed to equality, and will continue to
be so.
We also support making LGBTIQ rights a core European
competency, and would argue for a vote to enshrine these
rights via legislation in parliament via a qualified voting
majority. Granting LGBTIQ individuals their human rights
should be a condition of being in the European Union.
The Party pledges itself to advancing LGBTIQ rights
throughout Europe by encouraging the EU to:
•
Adopt an EU Roadmap on LGBTIQ equality
•
Enforce human rights within the EU•
Complete the EU anti-discrimination law•
Combat homophobic and transphobic violence
•
Promote an inclusive definition of family in EU policies
•
Take a lead in protecting trans rights
•
Take action against school bullying
•
Tackle discrimination and inequalities in health
In short Greens will make the EU the world champion of
equality for LGBTIQ people
Ok, 35 hours, fewer cars and LGBT - all largely worthy (not the 35hrs) but a long way from a long list (my words) of clear policies to be anything other than marginal.
Still everyone has their democratic right...and enough people trying to spin the greens as the "true party" of the left. Does that explain their limited traction with the public?
Funnily enough..
You forget the emoticons to show you did not really mean it
...and enough people trying to spin the greens as the "true party" of the left.
It's just spin is it, they are not really a party of the left ?
The Green Party considers itself to be left of centre if you dispute that dismissing it as "spin", as you have, would you like to inform us what [i]you[/i] consider a left of centre party ?
If you read their section on monetary policy and can stop giggling, it's a bit difficult to take the rest that seriously. Worthy limited ambitions are fine, but that's all they will ever be. Even UKIP have more policies and that's saying something!
I know you like to spin things too Ernie, but there is an obvious difference between being a party on the left and being the true party of the left - that is unless the left really are only a tiny segment of the population. You decide...
I couldn't give a toss whether they are left right up down or coming or going. they have policies I agree with 😀
If you read their section on monetary policy and can stop giggling...
And there you go again in your patronizing mode. Never a day off, eh ?
Sorry, was it meant to be serious? I was about to give them credit for at least being entertaining unlike most party websites. TBF, the bit about ring fencing is not too bad.bit serious though.
The rest is a bit like de soto for dummies for those too lazy to read his long book (which is very good)
Still we digress from Dave....
My only question is whether you realise you do it and it is intentional.
Lets call it a turing test 😉
I shall leave you two to it
I shall leave you two to it
I think you engage THM more than me Junkyard, I mostly ignore his posts, it's not really possible to have a sensible discussion with him.
Si solum
Ernie in my case it really is not possible to have a discussion with him 8)
teamhurtmore - Member
Si solum
Tried to find a picture of a troll in a toga but alas
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jambalaya - Member
We have a General Election in 5 months, that's democracy.
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that's a pretty useless contribution. the general election is at most 5 months away; general elections aren't a vote for prime minister; governments can change between general elections; general elections are only a small part of the democratic process, not the beginning and end of it; campaigning for a PM's resignation is not undemocratic...
campaigning for a PM's resignation is not undemocratic...
No but it's fairly pointless, again it's a vocal minority trend to shout about it, bit of bandwagon stuff and then come polling day the X will tell you what people really think. Great idea by labour to try and launch it but far too close to an election to swap PM, it's not Australia you know.
general elections are only a small part of the democratic process, not the beginning and end of it
You are deluding yourself imo if you think that general elections are only a small part of the democratic process, if only it were true. They are in fact the major part of it.
For most people democratic participation begins and ends with voting in elections, of which general elections are the most important. That's how it's designed to be.
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dead head if you vote by photographs, but what about you make a choice based on policy and ideas rather than personality.
dead head if you vote by photographs,
Really, even Wallace doesn't believe that!
but what about you make a choice based on policy and ideas rather than personality.
That would be nice, but since both main parties are being economical with the truth about the main policy issue (see chart above) it becomes quite difficult to make a choice - whose BS are you prepared to swallow?
It's clear from these lies, that party's strategists/leaders continue to treat Joe Public with contempt. Hopefully they will remember that they are there to serve us not the other way round. Si Solum again!
(Lifer, you surpassed yourself 😉 )
"Great idea by labour to try and launch it but far too close to an election to swap PM, it's not Australia you know."
is the point to get the lib Dems to quit the coalition (lib Dems - creating some distance from Tories at last moment, and Tories totally up a creek), thus forcing a snap election that would favour labour?
If politicians (and party donors) have immense influence over the media, which in turn influences public opinion, is it true democracy?
On that note, why aren't the Green Party being given nearly as much media coverage as UKIP or being included in TV debates?
because capitalism.
Lets hope all those pushing this online get off their backsides and vote to get him out in May then
Why? Most people's votes make no difference to the outcome of a general election.
They can't get shut of Dave until his replacement has been voted in as an MP, at least. And he's got a general election to lose, then shoulder the blame for first.
Anyway.... cheers!
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Does anyone ever get the impression much of politics is just theatre?
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Dave has just said, "imagine you two forming the next coalition?"
Ed, "Moi?"
Clegg "Bloody right mate, I'll get into bed with anyone"
JHJ, the greens don't make headlines? This is 24 hour media you are talking about. How many people do you reckon could name the head of the Greens?
teamhurtmore - MemberJHJ, the greens don't make headlines? This is 24 hour media you are talking about. How many people do you reckon could name the head of the Greens?
Kind of the point, isn't it.