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I've got 8 pretty large Leylandii stumps (up to about 2ft across) that I extracted last March.
Putting them into the car and carting to the tip is pretty much a no go as they're so heavy, plus booking in etc.
Cutting them up is beyond the capabilities of my chainsaw, especially as they are still full of stones and earth, so I'd be resharpening the chain every 5 minutes.

What's the best way to burn/get rid? I'm thinking get a charcoal fire going underneath then stick the stumps on top? They're too big to go in the incinerator barrel!


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:36 am
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Could you split them with an axe sledgehammer?


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:38 am
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Unfortunately because it's right at the base of the tree where the roots splay out, the grain is all over the place, and they just won't split.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:45 am
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I would imagine paying someone to grind them maybe the only option. I tried to burn a stump, which was fun for a while until it got no where fast and left a horrible mess


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:48 am
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I had a row of these (from an old hedge) ground out a few years ago, and while I can't remember what it cost I do remember that it felt like a bargain compared to the effort of digging them out! Mine were probably only about 8" diameter each, though.

If I was burning them out, I'd start with a few vertical holes drilled deep into the stump, and then try to get some in from an angle to act as an air inlet into the bottom of the vertical ones. Sawdust/shavings down the holes (maybe with a little diesel, or firelighter fragments) and light it up. The angled holes would hopefully allow the fire to draw air in a similar manner to a rocket stove and generate plenty of heat to sterilise the stump.

ETA: Ignore me - I've now seen your update re digging them out.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:52 am
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I would imagine paying someone to grind them maybe the only option. I tried to burn a stump, which was fun for a while until it got no where fast and left a horrible mess

I've dug the buggers out, that was the hard bit. I'm not paying someone now! 😀
I'm fortunate enough to have a bit of space to do it in a bit away from neighbours.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:52 am
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Yeah, sorry, to clarify, they're already out (along with some hard to split chunks where the trunks split)
I was stubborn and on a money saving drive, I just need to not have them pulled up by the garage now 😀


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:55 am
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Swedish candle they ass*. 👍
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*in twenty years when they've dried out.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:55 am
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Pay a tree surgeon to get rid of them? They will have a monster chipper and will be routinely disposing of waste.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:56 am
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Aye, first option would be to see if either the council uplift for a charge, or a tree surgeon, before considering fire. Much as I love fire. 🙂


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:57 am
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Turn them into sculptures or trendy garden features and sell them on eBay (collection only)


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:58 am
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Burn them... it may take a couple of days.. cook breakfast on the embers.
Have fun.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:00 am
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I'm befuddled by the fact I appear to be both the tightest person here, and the most willing to experiment with fire. This was not what I expected.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:01 am
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Hammer them into a neighbours lawn?


 
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Three days of fire, fire and fire. Still the stump is buried.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:03 am
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Nope I am with you....

Just burn them ... build a fire and stack them on.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:06 am
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Skip and couple of mates to help chuck them in it. I used a mini digger because I'd just dug them out with it.


 
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Particulate polis arriving soon, I hear the distant sirens....


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:09 am
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Stick on ebay / Facebook market place as a freebie? Someone might want take them


 
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I go riding at Burnt Stump country park.

I'm not sure if that helps much.

APF


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:24 am
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Stick on ebay / Facebook market place as a freebie? Someone might want take them

This. Or your local freecycle group. Just title your post "I've got wood" and I'm sure you'll get a quick response.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:24 am
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Just title your post “I’ve got wood” and I’m sure you’ll get a quick response.

I think there is more demand for hard wood, then the OP's soft wood


 
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I’m befuddled by the fact I appear to be both the tightest person here, and the most willing to experiment with fire. This was not what I expected.

In a previous house, I pulled a number of these things out. A nice line of leylandii, either side of the garden, had been allowed to grow far too much.

First, trees were stripped of small branches. Painful.

The foliage was burnt on an incinerator. Took ages. Made a mess. Painful.

Larger branches were then cut from trees, and piled up. A little less painful but still a pain as it didn't exactly stack very well and was too wet to burn. These things had grown lots of twisted branches about 1" diameter.

Trunks chopped and stacked. This was ok.

Stumps were dug up by hand. Very painful.

The larger branches were finally chopped into short enough lengths to burn on the stove. Also painful.

The stumps were dried out for about six months then just plain burnt on an outdoors fire. Burnt for ages. Made lots of smoke. Had to be 'helped' with extra fuel. Surprisingly, this was painful.

I'd strongly consider paying someone to take the problem away next time. And I'm tight and like fire.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:40 am
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I think there is more demand for hard wood, then the OP’s soft wood

No one likes wood that doesn't last very long, something that will cause the OP issues.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:41 am
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Honestly, nobody is going to want these. We've got an open fire and I don't want them, neighbours have wood burners (one of them heats his house entirely with them) and they don't want them.
It's interlaced with soil and stones, and will need at least a couple of years to burn nicely.
The brash has been removed, I cut the usable branches for the neighbours, and the stuff that's left really is no use to anyone.

I'm thinking a charcoal base and I'll just give the first one a go.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:47 am
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I’d strongly consider paying someone to take the problem away next time. And I’m tight and like fire.

I would concur with this.

We have taken out 8 large to medium stumps, about another 15 small leylandii hedge stumps. The one in my photos is the only one of any reasonable size we burnt on site - and even three days of fire refused to really get rid of it.

We have taken far more to the tip, I have another perhaps 15-20 rhododendron left rotting and 8 more large stumps from Holly, Birch and Rowan also left to rot down.

We did burn a fair bit - but at the end of the day some of it just won't burn as you hope, even after drying out.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:49 am
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As a rough idea of scale, these are a couple of them.

(But to reiterate, they are all out of the ground...)

I'm stubborn and like a challenge, so nobody is getting paid 😀


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:59 am
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Stick on ebay / Facebook market place as a freebie

Better still chain them up by the front gate, they'll be gone in an hour! 😀

Otherwise it's a long wait for the fire to do it's job. (Maybe go and research homemade napalm using a TOR window).


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:07 am
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Honestly, nobody is going to want these.
neighbour thought I was mental when I asked for his stumps 🤣 Used them to create a stumpery/wildlife area which looks pretty cool now! So, do that 👍

From your pics, yours look perfect actually! Especially if you have a bit of space available like you say.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:12 am
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Been there done that.
They will not burn - guaranteed.
All you'll be left with is a bunch of charred stumps.

As a rough idea of scale, these are a couple of them.

Haha, great. Can I come and watch (from a distance)?
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If those were mine I'd take another ring off them, as they seem quite tall, and then split them so I could get them to the tip.
But I've got a 20ton hydraulic splitter!
You could try chainsawing them up into smaller bits but the soil on the stumps will knacker the chain.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:17 am
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I faced something similar last year with 3 large stumps. Chopping screwed my chainsaw, burning proved futile so in the end i slipped a guy working next door with a mini digger £20 and he buried them all in the garden in about 20 minutes. Wish i'd gone that option sooner!


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:21 am
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I had some massive bushes in my front garden and a messy tree. After trying for hours to dig one out I decided I’d get someone round to do the rest, used a stump grinder (big petrol thing with tracks and a massive angle grinder thing on the front, was on a trailer pulled behind a transit!). £120 and 1 hour later all remnants of the bushes and roots had gone.
And most importantly my back was ok with it too! Physio is a lot more expensive!!


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:29 am
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Particulate polis arriving soon, I hear the distant sirens….

Shame you can't see the blue lights...

No way will they burn. You'd have to keep a fire going for days around each one.


 
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he buried them all in the garden

Will keep an eye out for the honey fungus thread that is due in a year or two!


 
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But to reiterate

Don't reiterate, incinerate.

You could make some cool scorched tables.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 12:11 pm
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Surround with sandbags.
Drill holes.
Insert shotgun cartridges (or other readily available ordnance)
Stand well back.
Initiate cartridges.


 
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As a rough idea of scale

Deity on a bendy bus.

Take them to the tip. One at a time, if necessary.

I only had to try an incinerate stumps / trunks that were around 10" diameter when I decided to let myself in for it.


 
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Pay someone £100 to get it ground and removed then use the wood chips.


 
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Surround with sandbags.
Drill holes.
Insert shotgun cartridges (or other readily available ordnance)

Hillbilly gunpowder is made from sugar, sulphur, and saltpetre (three S's). I learned about this from my dad, they used to use it for splitting logs BITD. You have to be really, really careful about mixing it, a spark of static electricity can set it off. Basically just put the ingredients on a fine weave cloth and roll them round to mix them. Then very carefully pour it into the holes and tamp it. I haven't tried this, but, according to drunk old men reminiscing about their glory days, it works a treat. I always wanted to try it, but my dad forbid it because it's dangerous AF.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 12:41 pm
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I vote explosives.

Or bury them.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 12:48 pm
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Bury them under explosives. Got it.


 
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I haven’t tried this, but, according to drunk old men reminiscing about their glory days, it works a treat.

Yeah, that's likely to end up with you on a watch list these days! I've used shotgun cartridges to assist in the dismantling of garden shelters before and they don't come apart easily. I guess that's why the luftwaffe left them alone and leveled the houses and railway lines either side instead.


 
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Bury them under explosives.

That won't work. You'll just scorch the top.


 
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You seem hell bent on burning them. get a fire going with the logs from the trees or split bits from the trees and load the stumps on. you'll need a very hot fire over a couple of days.

We used to burn trees when access to them was limited and not worth the hassle of extraction. you'll need the kind of fire you dont want to be near / sucks the oxygen out of your lungs / burns the hair off your arms when loading it to get rid of them pronto.

the downside to burning is that if they don't burn away completely you're left with manky lumps of wood to dispose of. your call.

I'd get a skip no tree surgeon will want to chip them (unless tehy have a tub grinder or the like)


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 1:05 pm
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Access is restricted unfortunately. However, dragging then to a skip may be doable.

In all seriousness plan A is to try and break them up a bit more into more manageable chunks with a sledge and wedges in order to burn, plan B will involve hiring a skip.

I've pretty much ruled out burning as-is thanks to this thread 😀 Thanks for the advice peoples 🙂


 
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