Oh,look – Johnson says there’s a strong possibility of no deal. Who could have seen that coming?
Apparently forgetting the bit where he said that [url= https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/it-would-be-an-abject-failure-of-statecraft-to-leave-the-eu-with-no-deal ]No Deal would be a failure of statecraft[/url].
He must have meant on the part of the EU...
Just in from the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/10/boris-johnson-no-deal-brexit
I’m absolutely ing apoplectic watching that *ing gurning * standing there grinning like a *ing chimp and trying to tell us that an Australian style deal catastrophic *ing no deal crash out ‘needn’t be a bad thing’
Get to * you *ing lying, self-serving, corrupt incompetent *-wit!!! 😡
https://twitter.com/bbcbreaking/status/1337095688115589120?s=21
Don´t be surprised to see Boris resigning 2.01.2021
A failure of statecraft; other johnson failures - husband, father, honesty, human being.
Still reckon he's just trying to ratchet up the drama to scare the EU & masks himself look amazing if he snatches a deal at the last (& distracts from the substance of any actual deal)
I don’t doubt for a second that when it all goes tits up he’ll immediately ‘do a Dave’ and saunter off from the smouldering wreckage
Eton has a ****ing lot to answer for
Kent County Council given new powers to clamp/ fine truckers after Brexit transition. That's going to go down well.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-55264796
So, tell me sensible like, when Boris says I need to prepare myself for Jan 1, what - realistically - do I need to do as a member of Joe public? Where’s the advice?
Buy food
Actually, COVID is going to help me out in a small way. When I have to travel for work I have to go through a work permit process, even for a short time. Well, this is guaranteed to be a PITA in the first six months or so, given the people we pay to do it for us - but I'm not going to be travelling for a while still!
If you have any prescription medicine it might be worth trying to get a little extra just in case there are issues.
Wonder what having an EU passport is worth in the job market going forward?
Watch "The Road" its a pre-emptive social vision of a no deal Brexit... contains all the guidance you need.
It’s ok, we’ve have one thing that was worth it all.
Middle_oab and his Brexshit win.
Wait, we're not getting back the proper ones, made of hardboard that could effect structural repairs in a pinch with the little cutout window for the number?
That's it, I'm out.
Oh, wait.
There’s already the offer of a 6 month transport agreement in exchange for a level playing field.
Which wasn't a negotiating tactic, it was a massive two fingers, just like serving australian style pavlova at the dinner.
I've just realised why Boris won't sign onto EU standards. He thinks he can turn the UK into a low regulation cheap manufacturing and trade zone right on Europe's doorstep. So China/Singapore but less foreign. It's genius. Plenty of jobs welding up bike frames coming to a closed library bear you soon.
Might even be a nice little sideline 'arresting' EU nationals for ransom, if they go the full Beijing.
Yesterday watched yet another government department webinar on preparing for business post Brexit. At the beginning there was a poll and 65% if the people attending said they'd done no preparation. Hardly surprising.
I'm not going to waste more energy saying what I think about this government and the majority of brexiteers. I'm just glad my kids have dual English Danish nationality.
Wonder what having an EU passport is worth in the job market going forward?
If I was still in my previous career, travelling constantly but mainly within the EU, I'd have had to get one.
Cromolly - thats been obvious for a long time. Its why they will not sign up to a level playing feild
I'm starting to wonder if my dual nationality might deliver a more prosperous future and a better set of politicians.
I'm Indian by birth.
😂
mrmo
Free Member
If you have any prescription medicine it might be worth trying to get a little extra just in case there are issues.
I've already looked into that for my mother's glaucoma meds and others. Docs and pharmacy said "not a chance" basically.
I'm now officially bloody concerned to put it mildly.
cromolyolly - suggest you read Binners multiple posts about the UK being turned into a low wage, regulation free sweat shop immediately adjacent to the EU.
I hear johnson still blathering on about Australian and Canadian style deals; why can't he be clear - australian means WTO; canadian was never available and to pretend it was, could or should be is 100% delusional.
If you want to know what Brexit is REALLY all about, read this...
The American ultra-libertarian free-marketeers did it to South American economies like Argentina and Chile in the 70’s and 80’s. Boris and co are using it as a blueprint for what they’d ideally like to do. It’s never been attempted in a liberal European democracy. But this is a coup. Pure and simple.
First up you have to create a crisis. A proper one! They’ll achieve that on January 1st with a no deal crash out. As the economy goes into shock and ceases to function, just watch how fast they move in tearing up a lot of the things that we now take for granted. They won’t hang around, I promise you. They’ve got it all mapped out and are just awaiting their moment. Bye bye welfare state, workers rights, environmental controls, food standards, NHS, etc, etc..,
Be in no doubt... They’ve engineered this. They want chaos. Thus They’ve wanted Brexit to be no deal all along, as that was the only thing that could create the chaos they need to completely remodel society in the way they want.
If you want to know what they REALLY want, they’ve already published a manifesto. It’s authors are all, bar one, presently senior cabinet ministers. That’s not a coincidence
Look at those names? Fancy living in the kind of society those people want?
No.. me neither
It arrives in 3 weeks.
kwarteng, patel, raab, truss - I wouldn't trust any of them to run a bath.
Exactly.
The ‘turtle on a fence post’ theory writ large
Yet there they are. Writing government policy
Cromolly – thats been obvious for a long time. Its why they will not sign up to a level playing feild
cromolyolly – suggest you read Binners multiple posts about the UK being turned into a low wage, regulation free sweat shop immediately adjacent to the EU.
Yeah, saw those. What I had previously missed was the financial side. It takes time, supply chains and or resources to build a low wage manufacturing economy. Plus the EU, without a deal, just slaps tariffs on everything making it too expensive. Which they would drop if you agreed common regulations.
The genius part is the singapore style wild west financial side. That will be absolutely irresistible to a lot of the money in the EU, Russia, places like that. It's brilliant. I actually can't believe that these guys are smart enough to have planned this from the beginning but it's all working out quite well for them.
Look at those names? Fancy living in the kind of society those people want?
No.. me neither
Apart from the lazy research, poor understanding of how stats work and the general low quality, wouldn't get a pass at gcse writing, to be fair in the book they call for more immigration. So I'd be on board with that part.
You’re right that this lot aren’t smart enough to plan it. They’re as thick as mince. Liz Truss couldn’t find her own arse using both hands. They’re also completely corrupt.
If you want to see the brains who planned all this then take a look at the people who funded the leave campaign then bankrolled Boris’s leadership ambitions and then the Tory election campaign
Some proper dodgy bastards. Disaster capitalist financiers, all of who’m stand to make an absolute killing out of a no deal Brexit and would love to see a handy tax haven just off the coast of mainland Europe
Boris and his cabinet of dimwits know they’ll be looked after when their political careers finish next year
I wouldn't be surprised if the same people masterminded momentum as well. That organisation stinks of outside funding and slick management of social media, not something normally associated with lefty reds.
Just in case any remaining centrist voters were not won over by the tory vision of a bright new dawn, give them Corbyn as an alternative and that will seal the deal. Then watch as the labour party tears itself apart instead of providing an opposition. Textbook.
A failure of statecraft; other johnson failures – husband, father, honesty, human being.
I'd go further, I'd say a failure as a DNA carrying organism.
There are fungi and bacteria that do more good.
Still reckon he’s just trying to ratchet up the drama to scare the EU & masks himself look amazing if he snatches a deal at the last (& distracts from the substance of any actual deal)
I don't think so. The Boris Bullshit Bus has reached the end of the road and it is going to become apparent to enough pro-Leave people that Brexit was a pack of lies and that it can't be hidden any more. Johnson will be off, as will many prominent Brexies in the months that follow his departure, no doubt citing long covid or similar.
The circling vultures will have their feast and piss off sharpish with the proceeds. The normal folk will take an irreversible hit to their standard of living and we will rejoin the EU by stealth, bit by bit, over the course of the next 10-15 years. But as a second tier member with nothing like the clout we used to have.
**** Brexit.
Project Fear…
https://twitter.com/timothy_stanley/status/1337124495518265344?s=21
…or rather, the Brexit cheerleaders have to finally accept what the EU is, and how it works, as we leave the transition period.
Project Fear…
https://twitter.com/wjames_reuters/status/1337313785007267840?s=21
…or rather, not listening to the haulage and logistics industry has real consequences.
the Brexit cheerleaders
They might deign to try, but remember this is primarily a heist. The cheerleaders will be well looked after and why would they be motivated to face reality when they can just scuttle off to a comfortable retirement?
The true believers, who weren't on the payroll (let's call them idiots), are as screwed as the rest of us. But frankly, **** them.
Dowden being trotted out now on R4 to do his share of looking stupid and lying. Why they feel the need to even bother any more escapes me...
They've done it. We're screwed.
…or rather, the Brexit cheerleaders have to finally accept what the EU is, and how it works, as we leave the transition period
I was trying to type something. But this reflects more how I feel.
A nice synopsis.
Broadly speaking,
work harder, bitches.
rights? forget it
And
fancy the arts? forget it, your life choices are tescoburys or amazon
or rather, the Brexit cheerleaders have to finally accept what the EU is, and how it works, as we leave the transition period
As noted, that is literally the purpose of the EU - peace through collaboration, shared stability and a negotiating bloc, without individual deviations.
It's also literally the reason Leave wanted out - to take back individual control of our own negotiations and policy.
It's taken nearly 5 years for this penny to drop with some people.
Of course this will be remainers and the EU's fault, because if they hadn't objected or created this 'club' that they won't let us in on...
They will do all the changes fast otherwise people will cotton on to it.
God knows what the uk will look like in 5 years (other than it won't be the uk anymore - good luck Scotland).
The Five Live debate this morning is worth listening too. It is presently carrying on in the same vein as yesterday.
Serious businesspeople, presently running successful enterprises pointing out what utter and complete lunacy this is, and the huge costs to their business, then total ****ing morons (who all seem to be retired) who haven’t even got the most basic understanding of economics, saying ‘everything will just be fine’ on the basis of.... erm.... err...
Guess which group our government are presently made up of?
Jesus Christ! I didn't know that import VAT rules were changing (from outside EU).
It took an email from Wish - ikr - of all people to inform me or regulatory changes - ****ing Wish!
Anyway - here's the content of their email
Transactions on or after 1 January 2021
Beginning 1 January, 2021 the current VAT exemption for UK imports of goods in a small consignment of value up to £15 will end. As of this date, VAT will be included in your purchase price on items and consignments of up to £135 imported into the UK. This will also mean that you will not have to pay any additional VAT at customs.
For items or consignments valued above £135, VAT & Customs Duties are included in your purchase price. To facilitate delivery, Wish or an agent, like a freight forwarder, will make the payment on your behalf.
Transactions before 1 January 2021
The new rules will apply to all sales that have a time of supply for VAT purposes of 1 January 2021 or later.
For example, if an order is placed and payment received on 31st December 2020 then the new rules will not apply, even if dispatch and delivery take place after 1 January 2021. Therefore, for imports, the consignment will remain subject to import VAT (unless it is below the Low-Value Consignment Relief threshold of £15) and supply VAT should not be charged. For goods already in the UK at the time of supply, the VAT liability will remain with the seller rather than Wish.
Wish is monitoring HMRC rules regarding reseller regulation for marketplaces effective on Jan 2021 to ensure a smooth transition. As of today, not all details have been finalized by the government, but we have been assured that the goals of the new system will be:
To make sure that packages are not held up at the border, and that delivery times will not be affected.
To prevent a complicated process with extra fees for the consumer from receiving bills from the postal service to pay VAT. Instead, marketplaces such as Wish will collect VAT and pay it directly to the tax authorities.Our goal at Wish is to ensure the shopping experience remains enjoyable and affordable for our customers. When more details are shared with us, we will update you promptly.
For more information, visit the HMRC website.
Best wishes,
The UK Wish team.
Guess which group our government are presently made up of?
There can now only be two classifications.
1. Cynical opportunists (political or financial or both).
2. Morons.
For amusement the government website still doesn’t know how it if the electricity interconnectors will work/trade.
If that isn’t sorted (and it may already be but .gov.uk doesn’t know it), food and medicine shortages are going to pale into insignificance.
Best wishes,
The UK Wish team.
Is that the official title of our negotiators?
