Trust is different to expertise, though.
What we are talking about here is the watering down of the perceived difficulty of 'Procedure X' so that it can be given to staff with less specific expertise.
I'd rather have stitches done by a nurse for the reason above (and they would be more practised at it), but stitches from a doctor would probably not end up in death.
Neurosurgery? I'll take the qualified consultant and you can have the nurse...
Obviously my examples above are purely for illustrative purposes.
I'd happily eat a burger prepared by a bloke in van, but also by a trained Japanese sushi chef. Fugu from a bloke in a van? After you...
Drivers hours rules to be relaxed
So yeah, actually it turns out their answer to a shortage of drivers is to make everybody's journeys quite a lot more unsafe...Or is that too "Project Fear".
Who could have foreseen that (5 years ago), what a surprise.
EDIT: No real details there. This could just be the temporary additional hours that have always been possible.
The temporary relaxation of the rules will mean HGV drivers will be legally allowed to drive for an additional one hour per day, from nine to 10 hours. It will also allow drivers to undertake two eleven hour shifts per week.
However the Road Haulage Association has condemned the move. “This is madness when the logistics industry has collectively and specifically advised against this,” said RHA CEO Richard Burnett. “Loading more hours on to drivers that are already exhausted is not the answer, this will only push more to leave. It also risks road safety.
Oh, and…
Meanwhile, The Grocer understands that the government is also in advanced talks with industry to relax immigration rules with the introduction of a temporary visa to allow EU drivers to work in the UK
“We asked for workers drivers; we got people instead”
temporary relaxation of the rules
You
Lying
Bastards
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Just seen on my FB Memories from 4 years ago:
The 5 stages of a Brexiter:
1. Triumphalism
2. Paranoia
3. Hysteria
4. Realisation
5. Panic
I now realise I was wrong, I missed one:
The 6 stages of a Brexiter:
1. Triumphalism
2. Paranoia
3. Hysteria
4. Realisation
5. Panic
6. Scapegoat
NewsThump: "HGV drivers must work longer hours to fix the Brexit problems we created, insists government". I thought it was good satire until about 30 minutes later when I realised it was true.
I've seen in my own industry that temporary alleviations become permanent with the continuing decline in safety overlooked or badly balanced by improvements in technology.
https://twitter.com/EmeraldHRM/status/1413040717274943488?s=20
One benefit of these (construction) job shortages is day rates are going crazy. My rates gone up 15% in the last couple of months, purely for retention. I'm starting on another firm Monday employed and they're nearly matching my self employed rate
So it turns out that 'They need us more than we need them!' is actually 'We need them to do the jobs we can't or won't do!'. Sadly the gammons will point at the rising wages as proof that immigration supressed wages, totally ignoring that the extra wages having to be offered will lead to increased prices and inflation.
On the plus side there are companies offering over £18/hr for truck drivers against the usual £11-13/hr.
Make hay while the sun shines! Deregulation and restructuring takes time. Grab those higher wages now.
One benefit of these (construction) job shortages is day rates are going crazy
I was in Kerry last month, one of the big UK construction companies was advertising for workers to come and work in London in the local newspaper.
It’s not just EU workers leaving.
You gotta love the Express's assertion that the EU is 'stealing' citizens!
Nope - they are the fortunate ones who can leave on their own terms.
Thing is, the journos and editors at these comics know full well they are taking the piss and feeding bullshit to morons, but they love it.
This is why I am keen to write off a large proportion of the electorate. If you can't realise what these cynical bastards are doing, you are beyond help. And as thick as pig shit.
The likes of The Express aren't even trying to pretend they report 'news' any more. Yet still the nobheads lap it up.
I knew three Brits in France on Brexit vote day. All three now have French nationality. STW has gained Swedish, German, Belgian... members. The transfer of intelligence, skills and no doubt wealth when they inherit (one already has) is significant.
totally ignoring that the extra wages having to be offered will lead to increased prices and inflation.
And having to scrap the Triple Lock for pensioners, who it looks like are going to get a 'fair settlement' instead (term is copyright of the NHS).
So it turns out that ‘They need us more than we need them!’ is actually ‘We need them to do the jobs we can’t or won’t do!’. Sadly the gammons will point at the rising wages as proof that immigration supressed wages, totally ignoring that the extra wages having to be offered will lead to increased prices and inflation.
Yep.
Was in Aviemore a few weeks back, 2 cafes and a deli shut in one weekend cos they can't get staff, McDonald's resort usually has 150 live in staff, they've 50 this year.
The upshot is that lots of folks who had staff accomodation in the area have now changed to Airbnb and the likes, so even if they do manage to get folks in, there's now not much chance of having somewhere for them to live.
Bravo Britain.
Are people who voted for Brexit aware of the issues raised each month or are they not looking/don't care?
The instigators of it don't really say much these days but I don't suppose they need to as they got what they want, made their money etc,.
Are people who voted for Brexit aware of the issues raised each month or are they not looking/don’t care?
From the bexiteers in my family this and also " a price worth paying"
From the bexiteers in my family this and also ” a price worth paying”
Are they still "whistling"?
And let's remember it needs to be paid in Euro's - wonder how much of it the UK Govt has 'hedged' already.
Was in Aviemore a few weeks back, 2 cafes and a deli shut in one weekend cos they can’t get staff, McDonald’s resort usually has 150 live in staff, they’ve 50 this year.
The Lake District is exactly the same. Its now approaching peak season and theres businesses still shut because they can't get enough staff to open
Yay for Brexit!
The other noticeable thing with the brexiteers in my family is they have shut up. It was all triumphal crowing. Its now silence from them presumably because its turning out so shit
Shocking that businesses can’t open because they no longer have a supply of near slave labour. What’s the world coming to!
The Brexiteers I know (who are actually Lexiteers) are still telling me that the whole EU project is on the verge of falling apart, so we're best off out of it.
God only knows what they're basing this on. Mind you, facts are not something that have ever overly concerned them
"Let the market decide!"
"Wait, the market is hurting me!"
Shocking that businesses can’t open because they no longer have a supply of near slave labour. What’s the world coming to!
Oh... speaking of Lexiteers.... morning comrade 😉
Slave labour? Hardly? The place we were staying at pay decent rates, well over any minimum wage nonsense, and they advertised for a chef (amongst other positions) and had not one single applicant.
I know you like to cling on to the notion that all business owners are evil capitalist bastards out to ruthlessly exploit the workers (god bless 'em), it's just a pity that it's total bollocks.
Wages aren't the issue here. The issue is that there literally aren't enough people here to do the jobs, because the people who were doing them we told to '**** off back to where you came from', which they duly did.
Working out well, isn't it?
I fully expect my eldest to move abroad, whichever way his uni and career plans develop. With lack of opportunities and the society Brexit has created, I don't blame him. Youngest is more cautious but that may change.
I have no problem with wages and prices going up, though I wish it was for those in lower paid key worker jobs as well. Maybe in a year or so the Brexity idiots will have to step up to the plate and do those jobs the horrible immigrants took from them for all those years. Karma would be a bitch.
If I did not have aged parents in the UK I would have left years ago
Slave labour? Hardly? The place we were staying at pay decent rates, well over any minimum wage nonsense
Maybe they do but in general hospitality jobs pay pretty badly, certainly not enough for anyone to save up to buy a house or see it as a long term sustainable career, or to actually contribute to tax revenues.
Which is why the day to day running of the lake district used to be pretty much entirely done by eastern Europeans who aren't generally in it for the long haul and so can put up with less than ideal living conditions.
So now instead we will have disgruntled UK citizens who have to live in crappy tied accomodation doing the jobs badly but everything will cost 20% more.
So now instead we will have disgruntled UK citizens who have to live in crappy tied accomodation doing the jobs badly but everything will cost 20% more.
Except we won't, will we?
This is a numbers game. The people simply don't exist. Millions of people have gone 'home'. Where do you plan on conjuring up the millions to replace them?
What will happen is that these businesses will all go bust because they have no staff
Working out well, isn’t it?
So you’re complaining about the death of the low wage economy? Interesting..
What will happen is that these businesses will all go bust because they have no staff
Let me get my violin out. Is a business which can’t survive without poorly paid workers who have no protections worth saving? It’s an interesting question.
This is a numbers game. The people simply don’t exist. Millions of people have gone ‘home’. Where do you plan on conjuring up the millions to replace them?
Some businesses will definitely go bust but more UK citizens probably would probably be willing to work in hospitality if they paid decent wages, were respected by the public, and could live reasonably in a nearby place that wasn't mostly holiday homes.
So you’re complaining about the death of the low wage economy?
There is no low wage/high wage economy, there is simply an economy
I'm merely pointing out that the sacrifice of lots of viable businesses on the alter of some mad right-wing nationalist agenda probably isn't that great an idea.
From your socialist perspective, comrades, who is benefitting from this? Who are the 'winners'?
Also: lets throw this into the mix...
Seeing as you're also an environmentalist, how do you feel about us now importing food because the home grown stuff is rotting in fields as there's nobody to harvest it?
Is that some kind of mad victory for socialism too?
Let me get my violin out. Is a business which can’t survive without poorly paid workers who have no protections worth saving? It’s an interesting question.
I was in that industry for 15 years, I paid my staff as well as I could (well over minimum wage) but the margins are extremely tight.
All of my staff paid tax, had pensions and all of the protections of any other job.
Don't be coming around here and letting boring old facts get in the way of the socialist utopia that Comrade Daz and his Lexiteer chums are busy wishing into existence 😉
Are people who voted for Brexit aware of the issues raised each month or are they not looking/don’t care?
There's any numbers of posts on twitter these days pointing out that most "market garden" crops that need to be hand picked, stuff like courgettes, strawberries are being left to rot in fields because of the double hit of; no cheap labour, and a lack of logistics. The Brexiteers (that reply) seem mostly to fall into the same categories.
"The unemployed are too lazy to go and do it, we should make them or take away their benefits"
"In my day, job exchange would make you do it, or it were down t'pit"
"We used to pick hops before the war for tuppence ha'penny and a whipping from the Tory MP landlord"
"why can't they give it to foodbanks"
"What about pick your own"
etc etc, so I can only guess that many of these folk really have no concept of how we've been managing this part of the economy over the last years with young casual immigration from Europe.
The end result is that we're all going to end paying a lot more for stuff. Like pints.
This is why UBI will never happen. It's obviously a brilliant idea, but will absolutely destroy the economy which is predicated on people "needing" to work in low paid jobs. If I was getting minimum wage for sitting on my arse doing nothing (philosophising or painting of going for walks etc) I sure as hell wouldn't spend 40 hours of my week in a hot kitchen getting shouted just to double it up since all the wage would go on transport and childcare.
UK citizens probably would probably be willing to work in hospitality if they paid decent wages
Of course they would. the fact that every off-shore oil job is oversubscribed is not that folk love the glamour, the all-night parties and the long lazy days by the pool, it's the high wage...But the death of farming in the UK is part of the plan, the mad Ayn Rand supporting nut bars actively want cheaper food imported from over-seas, they see that as an economic good. Likewise if it's cheaper to fly to Malaga for a week, that's 'better' than a B&B in the Lakes and so the B&B should fail
What we're seeing isn't a disaster, it's the plan...
“What about pick your own”
Oh I'd love to drive 20 miles out to a farm, wander around the fields for an hour and come back with 30 courgettes.
Oh no, wait a minute - I'd like to walk 5 mins to the nearest supermarket and buy 1 courgette. That's it, yes.
All the people on twitter banging on about "pick your own" fail to realise that a venue then needs insurance, management for public access, health & safety assessments, a weighing and paying station, car parking... Honestly, they're living in a world of their own.
Shocking that businesses can’t open because they no longer have a supply of near slave labour.
no concept of how we’ve been managing this part of the economy over the last years with young casual immigration from Europe
Young casual immigration of people who come here willingly for the seasons. Well, there were coming willing. They were not slaves. Same goes for hospitality. Importantly, if these people decided they liked it here after a taste of the UK, they could look to come back another year with the idea of either looking for other work in the off season, or a more permanent job (or starting up their own business). They were not slaves. If you want something akin to being a slave... how about short term work visas tied to being sponsored by an employer? That's what we're replacing freedom of movement with, and it puts all the power in the hands of the employer and state, and removes it from the individual.
Maybe they do but in general hospitality jobs pay pretty badly, certainly not enough for anyone to save up to buy a house or see it as a long term sustainable career, or to actually contribute to tax revenues.
Let's be clear, there have always been jobs that never paid enough to afford to buy a house plus folk who either didn't earn enough to maintain a owned house (or weren't disciplined with the their spending etc) - that's why we have social housing (and subsidies/benefits).
And inflation will quickly eat into those additional payments, noticed how much you're spending at the shops?
Young casual immigration of people who come here willingly for the seasons. Well, there were willing. They were not slaves.
Yes. To pick roses. Tinted ones.
That was illegal. And still is now.
Honestly, they’re living in a world of their own
With blue passports that they'll probably never use and and wildly over-inflated sense of entitlement...Seriously, Brexit is being run by people who look at the American economy with envy (it's not co-incidence that Daniel Hannan, and Douglas Carswell both live* there now) It would've been a bunch easier if we'd have used the money we've spent on Brexit just giving the folks that wanted it, free passage to Florida.
*and both 'work' for Republican 'think tanks' quelle surprise, said no one ever...
Honestly, they’re living in a world of their own.
Well it is a lot easier and ultimately a happier world to live in.
I often think how nice it must be to be someone who truly doesn't understand anything or give enough of a shit to even care about anything.
