Those pesky Frenchies still want us to follow rules we have signed up to in order to facilitate trade… have they learnt nothing?!? If Brexit means anything, it means that Great Britain can unilaterally do what the hell we want… we… are… G… R… E… A… T…
https://twitter.com/alextaylornews/status/1404095831238709250?s=21
That Aussie trade deal news screams READ THE SMALL PRINT.
I bet De Pfeffel hasn’t.
We know that this lot don't even read the big print
He's only the Foreign Secretary and former Brexit Secretary. Why on earth would he waste his time reading the Good Friday Agreement
https://twitter.com/johnbearesnp/status/1404111768067227649?s=20
I'm sure that kind of attention to detail is present across the board with these clowns
It reminds me of the small print on the piss-take adverts in Viz:
I know not what I sign, but sign I will. Take me down....
My uncle is one of the people in the article above who voted BNP in Burnley, my cousin didn't speak to him for over a year afterwards.
At first glance my uncle is your typical Brexit voter but look a tiny bit closer and he's not thick (ex RAF engineer), not poor (new camper & motorbike every 3-5 years, retired early), not overtly racist (uses offensive words but not to offend). What he is, is very resentful of everything. Resentful of "serving his country and getting nothing for it", that nothing includes an excellent pension & untold preferential benefits. Resentful of having to pay for upgrades to his ex council house when the council house opposite gets a new roof for free. Resentful of not being able to call the corner shop a P**i shop when "its just a shop owned by a ****stani family, I'm only saying what it is".
One of his strong reasons for voting out was the foreigners were coming in and driving down the wages of his daughter in the care industry. Now we are out, my cousin is paid just the same but has a bigger work load due to less staff, and this of course is the fault (still) of foreigners and not the fault of the private care industry owned by and facilitated by his new best buddies in the Tory government.
He said his BNP vote was a protest vote, he could have voted for anyone else but chose them because what my uncle is, is incredibly selfish and has a massive hard done by complex. He has worked hard but he's also taken advantage over every single thing that has benefited him that wont benefit his kids but he ignores that and just puts it all down to him working hard. Now he sees other people getting stuff for free and wants it taken off them and given to him with the classic "I pay my taxes" mindset. He bangs on about how things should be better for the younger generation but his only answer is to take that "better" off someone else. The BNP and by extension today's Conservatives are the only ones offering to punish those who didn't work hard.
Well, with all due care and attention about insulting other people and their family members personally etc....
Your uncle is a bit of a ****, isn't he...
He's probably pretty representative of a good chunk of the electorate and their planet-sized sense of entitlement.
If Brexit is about anything, it's about English exceptionalism and the weird belief that some accident of geographic location should lead to an innate superiority and privilege of which you are somehow deserving?
Your uncle is a bit of a ****, isn’t he…
Very much so.
the weird belief that some accident of geographic location should lead to an innate superiority and privilege of which you are somehow deserving?
Perhaps because we are an island and have never needed to work in such close contact with our neighbours in a way that those on mainland Europe have done.
If Brexit is about anything, it’s about English exceptionalism and the weird belief that some accident of geographic location should lead to an innate superiority and privilege of which you are somehow deserving?
Well, the next decade will hold that up to the ridicule it deserves, but:
1) Many of the true gammons will be dead by the end of it anyway, so don't give a ****.
2) The pillocks will still be pillocks and believe anything the Daily Mail says.
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In his opening address on launch night, the chairman said: “We are proud to be British – the clue is in the name.” Neil lists his main residence as France on official documents.
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Or as someone else said, like buying a million lottery tickets and celebrating that you've won £30
the weird belief that some accident of geographic location should lead to an innate superiority and privilege of which you are somehow deserving?
This has been talked about on here and also by actual historians. There's a theory that Brits have never really had a proper national humiliation, and we have had a relatively stable country since the civil war whilst our neighbours have gone through all sorts of upheaval. Even when the British lost the Empire they managed to save enough face to let people convince themselves it was ok.
Loved this from Doomanic's link:
In an opening monologue to viewers on Sunday night, Neil said GB News would aim to "puncture the pomposity of our elites in politics, business, media and academia
Neil is not only the epitomy of pompous but also in terms of elites:
Business/media Chairman of the Spectator (wince) and now GB news
Academia: University of Glasgow
Politics: Pro Afghanistan, complicite in Iraq war (IMO as a foreign onlooker), AIDs not caused by HIV, climate sceptic:
Typical Neil; unproveable anecdotes about children thinking they're going to be dead in five years while doubting that climate change will kill billions which in time it most probably will. He'd be taken to pieces on this forum.
Oh and Brexit, when sitting on a fence played the leave game.
Typical Neil
Monetising resentment, entitlement, and petty grievance. Very *ing clever. The problem is, to keep the gravy train growing, they have to feed those nasty motivations to reap the crop later on. It really is a licence to print money. They've realised a large enough section of our society is *witted enough to make it work and that is a sad indictment on us, it really is.
Cynical shits.
Typical Neil; unproveable anecdotes about children thinking they’re going to be dead in five years while doubting that climate change will kill billions which in time it most probably will. He’d be taken to pieces on this forum.
Well it seems to have worked on the interviewee, she left Extinction Rebellion shortly afterwards and is now an advocate for the nuclear industry.
intervieweecarefully selected plant
FTFY.
He said his BNP vote was a protest vote
That's what the Monster Raving Loony Party were for, long overdue an electoral resurgence I think.
As for GB News, I plan to exercise my right to think very carefully about which brands I choose to purchase from.
Thres a good assessment in Todays Guardian by Rafael Behr on whats really going on with the Northern Ireland Protocol and the stand off with Brussels. Boris Johnson isn't a complicated man. This is probably bang on about his present intentions
British politics is still drunk on Brexit spirit, and Boris Johnson won’t call time
Johnson’s calculation doesn’t prioritise peace in Northern Ireland. If it did, he would spend time telling the Unionist community that customs checks at Irish Sea ports were an administrative fact of life after Brexit but not a precursor to severance from the UK. He would have applied some effort to rebutting the most paranoid, sectarian interpretations of the protocol. Instead he has gamed and inflamed the grievance in the belief that the threat of conflagration puts pressure on the EU to make concessions.
If Northern Ireland is on fire, any insistence from Brussels on maximum implementation of rules on sausage imports will look callous and disproportionate. The prime minister expects to avoid meeting his treaty obligations in much the same way that an arsonist expects to avoid paying insurance premiums on the house he is torching.
So it isn't Johnsons casual indifference that is going to reignite conflict - thats merely for effect - it's a deliberate policy. A return to the violence suits his agenda
This for me really expands on my oft-posted strapline "Brexit isn't the destination, it's the vehicle".
It also provides this little gem, to explain pretty much every Johnson action:
"To Johnson, the withdrawal agreement was a single-use tool for levering himself out of a tight spot."
Frost tells NI select committee "We have asked, and suggested the right way forward, would be to agree to extend the grace period, at least for a bit, to provide a bit of a breathing space."
EU responds that they're not aware of any such request, but also, the grace period was already "to provide a bit of breathing space" and you've used that breathing space up and not met the conditions that were attached so you can get in the bin.
Frost also says "a negotiated position is the best outcome". As if the NI Protocol weren't the negotiated position. Depressing.
Facinating, Mefty, though perhaps not as contradictory as it might first appear.
Facinating, Mefty, though perhaps not as contradictory as it might first appear.
Indeed, but I wouldn't bother thinking about it that deeply. GB News will be an object lesson in creative practices of 'balance' (where one viewpoint is batshit mental fascist nastiness), what constitutes an 'expert' and 'impartial' witnesses. Helped by consistent undermining of the Beeb by Johnson and his cynical shower of shit rabble.
This for me really expands on my oft-posted strapline “Brexit isn’t the destination, it’s the vehicle”.
Yep who would have thought unicorns looked like a McGuffin.
Inside of the EU it was the EU’s fault and outside the EU it’s the EU’s fault.
I’m looking forward to the next season of a place in the sun.
Will it be Aus biased 🙂
they didn’t even read what they signed or thought the EU wouldn’t check
If it's one thing I've learnt from working with our European friends. They look at everything before signing on the dotted line. It's clear & simple business practice to do so.
If it’s one thing I’ve learnt from working with our European friends. They look at everything before signing on the dotted line. It’s clear & simple business practice to do so.
At work I often get told that I concentrate too much on the detail. I'm an Auditor, so it's usually said when I've pointing out failure and the like. My response?
"It's my ****ing job to do detail!"
From the Guardian story:
With the support of the governments of France and Spain, the European Commission has privately warned UK officials that the government’s procurement policy could be in breach of the trade deal signed on Christmas Eve.
The clash highlights the difficult line that the government is trying to tread in promising to support British companies in the post-Brexit era while fulfilling its commitment to being open to investment from around the world, including Europe.
Sam Lowe, a senior research fellow at the Centre for European Reform thinktank, and a former member of the Department for International Trade’s strategic trade advisory group, said: “Local content requirements are prohibited not just under the EU-UK trade and cooperation agreement, but also the UK’s WTO commitments.
“So the question that needs answering is whether the UK is in fact giving companies with UK supply chains preferential access to contracts, or just information-gathering. The latter is fine, the former less so.”
So Boris has signed a deal that explicitly prevents him from favouring British Industry and compels him to consider outside companies for every government project. I knew he had done a rushed deal with massive holes but that is a glaring oversight. By 'taking back control' he's handed the EU a killer card to beat him with at every opportunity.
Unbelievable. As in I didn't think it could get any worse!
So Boris has signed a deal that explicitly prevents him from favouring British Industry and compels him to consider outside companies for every government project. I knew he had done a rushed deal with massive holes but that is a glaring oversight. By ‘taking back control’ he’s handed the EU a killer card to beat him with at every opportunity.
Not really an oversight as it's a WTO requirement (obviously can be got around, such as national security) - but then the Brexit crowd never actually understood what WTO meant either.
Maybe oversight was the wrong word. More a glaring hole in the 'Taking Back Control' argument.
They can't tell us what to do? No, but they can certainly heavily influence it. I'm waiting to hear the roar of my uncle's rant when he finds out!
“It’s my ****ing job to do detail!”
You'll never understand the Brexit (supporters) mentality then... even if you do understand what the politicians get out of it...
“Brexit isn’t the destination, it’s the vehicle”
Is still as true as ever.
https://www.thearticle.com/forget-bangers-to-belfast-for-boris-brexit-means-permanent-revolution
If it’s one thing I’ve learnt from working with our European friends. They look at everything before signing on the dotted line. It’s clear & simple business practice to do so.
Yeah, but that's because they're bed-wetting liberal bureaucrats who shit themselves at the sight of a *ing great hammer. Yeah, a *ing great big hammer, that sorts all jobs out, no bother. Rules? Regulations? Best practice? Nah, all that's for limpwrists, if I arrive at a job and the customer doesn't like the look of my ****ing big hammer, I either chin them or challenge them to an arm wrestle. That usually sorts em out.
If they don't want the job doing for cheap (cash in hand, obvs) then **** em, they can pay top whack if they're too scared of a bit of good old British hammer.
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They can’t hold out like that again and risk holding elections anytime soon, they’re terrified of being wiped out.
Looks like they are going to do exactly that.
I have no idea where that leads… to a SF first minister, unionists refusing to work under with them, direct rule at a time when the UK government is tearing up the agreements signed with the EU?
Chaos with Ed Miliband.
You’ll never understand the Brexit (supporters) mentality then… even if you do understand what the politicians get out of it…
Yep, nail on head.
In other news, folk like me have finally worked out what the answer is - all vote for a party who oppose this mess, the same party. Note what Labour got...
Was wondering if the by election needed a separate thread. Classic protest vote though, the swing in votes is not far of the drop in (presumably Tory) turnout.
Labour were never going to win down there, but fair play to voters for being braver and stop kicking the LibDems for their coalition mistakes
And for doing it in an area that I thought was a Tory safe seat. Fingers crossed that this is the start of something.
Finally something I persoanlly see as good news:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/21/eu-prepares-cut-amount-british-tv-film-shown-brexit
More Tatort, less Barnaby. Now that just have to ban the American trash and it'll be safe to turn on the TV any time.
Another of our successful creative industries to lose market share by us not being part of a huge market? Project Fear. Alternatively, either "why didn't anyone warn us" (they did) , or "the EU are just being spiteful because we left"... etc, etc.
Is there also a restriction on American TV in the EU?
Although I have to say - pro-EU as I am - this looks like an over-reach. A better approach would be to invest in the means to make good EU based telly rather than simply cutting non-EU based. Then viewers would vote with their remotes.
Why is it overreach? We are not part of their market, so why should our product be treated as “local” without some kind of a treaty or arrangement? The EU is not there for the benefit of rich non-members unless they offer reciprocation.
Anyway… lots of TV and film gets made in the UK using money from abroad. One of the reasons these shows are made here is they (used to) be European content as far as other European countries were concerned. Other countries would like a piece of that… and they have this big club that’ll help them get it. And it will. Call it protectionism if you will, but no one should be surprised. Why help the UK media industry when it’s currently so dominant? Brexit benefits are to be had…
Thing is, Molgrips, people watch trash that is bad for them and society in the same way as they eat trash that is bad for them and society.
When you look at the cultural references, morals, ethics, values and behaviour in American series they are the social equivalents of sugar, glucose-fructose syrup, palm oil... . It's a succession of people being dicks with each other, shooting each other, deceiving each other, pick-up trucks, steroid and plastic enhanced people; role models European society doesn't need. We can do better.
There's some crap EU TV too but it's not quite so bat-shit mental, in-your-face and implausible as the US stuff.
UK produced stuff falls somewhere inbetween. The costume drama stuff does quite well here, but it's stuffy and again divorced from local history and culture. Peaky blinders was much appreciated, it's not all crap.
There's a compromise between being open to the rest of the world and allowing the worst excesses of the rest of the world in through your media. we need to be selective or we'll be swamped and become an Americanised stinking cultural swamp.
It’s a succession of people being dicks with each other, shooting each other, deceiving each other…
Engrenages
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I don't pay for Canal or any pay to view so I've never watched that, were there any pick-up trucks or 'roids? I just watch whatever's of interest at 20:15 on the German channels or 21:05 here, or nothing. If we're tired we watch German because it means an earlier night.
Ah, you're missing out... it's great.
Sounds a bit like Beaujolais Nouveaux, or Lacoste: they export well... .
