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He was also pretty strident in his calls to get shot of Dom Cummings after all that nonsense as well. I don’t think he’s a fan of Johnson et al.
He was, I got a fairly reasonable reply to my email about that one, better than the usual cut and paste party nonsense. I've been emailing him since the peroguing of parliament, I always get some sort of response, usually from the PA. They know I'm never going to vote for him, but I always point out that he is my representative. I get the impression that MPs can be influenced in this way, might be delusional though! Its part of the democratic process.
I'll have to get writing about the ridiculous Rwandan idea dead cat now....
Bollox to partygate.
Yep I sort of feel this too.
Issues correlated to loss of life and poverty certainly get drowned out disproportionately by the blue-tick topic of the day.
And like all the forensic anger of wallpapergate (we were told this stuff counts each time) - nothing really gives whilst thousands of people suffer at the hands of a regime that would be deemed okay if it was just competent at its free-market delivery.
Competent Tories are still bad for the human race.
Cruel, inhumane, and a total waste of vast amounts of money, which will achieve nothing other satisfy a few right-wing columnists and Tory MPs and enough Leave voters to try to shore up his public support
FTFY.
Bollox to partygate.
No chance. That is exactly what Bozo wants.
The way to bring him down is to drive a wedge between him and his Brexity supporters. Keeping hammering on about him laughing at them obeying lockdown rules is the way to go. Many of them would rather save the money on the Rwanda nonsense and machine gun the dinghies in the Channel instead.
Partygate is what has the bastard worried so Partygate it is.
The best way to stop stuff like the Rwanda policy is to oust this nationalist-populist shitshow by any means possible.
Exactly what he wants.
“You can‘t trust me on [ insert any one of many failures, lies, cover ups or just abiding his own laws ] but you can trust me to keep people out and/or you can help me move the news agenda on by concentrating on this big steaming pile of turd of a policy I’m dumping out into the media while parliament is in recess.”
Bollox to partygate
No. it's precisely this that will drive the Tories out of office. because it's a story that folks can understand (different rules for them and us) Politics is often (for better or worse) about how a party presents itself to the public just as much as what it does. This particular brand of Tory has the putrid whiff of a administration that's been in power too long and has lost touch. Just this week we've had 2 MPs in sex scandals and another awaiting sentencing for assault , the first sitting PM to have broken the law and won't resign, Rishi Sunak's lack of transparency and non-resignation, Javid's lack of transparency, idiotic photo-shoots from the foreign sec now this Rwandan scheme...
There more things like this there are, the more the public will find it difficult to vote for them.
Oust the Tory (formerly known as UKIP) Party and you stop stuff like the Rwanda policy.
They got Al Capone on tax evasion. The 'how' is not important.
Partygate, partygate, partygate.
Big posters of Johnson and Sunak grinning and gurning with a caption underneath saying "THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU"
It's what Cummings would do and he's shown it works.
Oh even more fines
Gonna be hilarious watching his MPs defend these
I do wonder if Number 10 has had a hand in the order of the fines, or in fact the policy to dribble them out at all. The Met is a pretty big organisation and seemed to have little issue getting the fines administered to the little people in a timely way, So how come effectively sitting ducks are taking so long to shoot?
I say this as the British public are easily bored. By the time we get to round 6 of fines it'll barely get noticed before it's fish and chip wrapping (them were the days). Also, his first fine is the one that will get remembered most and (once I take off my Johnson hating hat for a moment) was a pretty soft offence in the grand scheme of things....if you believe the official line of what happened. I'm pretty convinced there will have been drinks events hosted by him and wife in the official residence and the like still to come. Stuff way beyond 'margin of error' territory. A savvy interviewer would be trying to get a minister to defend the pm for this current fine by saying it wasn't something more awful in the hope that next week's news is the more aweful version.
But to me the whole partygate shitstorm is less about what exactly Johnson attended personally but what occurred under the number 10 roof in totality. That either he was complicit in allowing poor behaviour to occur and either encouraged it or chose to ignore it or was entirely oblivious.He is the most senior person working in the building. The tone and ethic of every person to set foot in that building, regardless of if a civil servant or ministerial advisor should have been or was set by Johnson. That is the true crime here. A collection of people by dint of their very jobs should have been completely in touch with the suffering and sacrifice across the country who blatantly did not give a **** to moderate their own behaviour accordingly.
Do you remember Tom Cruise's rant that went viral about behaviour on set? That is what should have happened here. It comes to something when your PM is trumped by Tom Cruise for leadership competence.
By the time we get to round 6 of fines it’ll barely get noticed
I don't think it will. Everytime this happens and he's fined he'll be forced to come out and stand there like the pathetic child he his with his toddler haircut, and defend his own shitty behaviour, and more and more of his MPs will have to sell their souls to defend him, and the public will be reminded again and again about the folks that lord it over them.
Bollox to partygate
No. it’s precisely this that will drive the Tories out of office.
The Tories have an 80 seat majority, nothing will drive them out of office before the next general election.
Replacing Johnson with Truss, Javid, Patel, or any of the other contenders, is not going to move the Tories to the left. In fact it is highly likely to do the opposite.
I think the slow drip-drip of fines is more damaging.
If I was Bozo (well, Carrie really), my best case scenario was having them all imposed in one go now.
It is maximum time until the local elections in May and the country will be marginally happier with a few days off work for most. Parliament is in recess.
What looks like a slow drip-drip (with probably the tamest offense first) is damaging because it goes on longer, stands more chance of seeping into the brains of the electorate and will hopefully lead to a series of defences that are then demolished one by one as the more blatant offenses come to light.
This is all damaging for the Tories in general too. And that cannot be a bad thing.
One of our ladies in the shop voted Brexit and is a Tory. Surprisingly the Rwanda business has tipped her into not being able to vote for the pus filled prick.
I told her to spoil her card so that **** knows you don't like him.
Boris to
“set the record straight”obfuscate, obstruct, mislead, gaslight and tell blatant lies in an attempt to get off the hook
FTFY.
It's pathetic. It is like a child who has been sent to their room and now creeps downstairs every five minutes to try a different tack they have just dreamed up, knowing they'll fail but also hoping to wear the parents down until they give up sending them back up the stairs.
My local MP (Jenkinson) has helpfully pointed out that Boris hasn't been fined. Its just a fixed penalty notice so doesn't count.
And anyway - we're sending the dirty foreigners to Rwanda so stop talking about parties...
Boris to “set the record straight”
I can't wait to hear what 'the dog ate my homework, sir' bullshit he's going to come out with to try and justify this
It's just embarrassing now. He just doesn't know when to stop digging, does he?
Boris to “set the record straight”
Curious why he would need to set the record straight on something he swore he was telling the truth about... ???
Will he be seated in the rose garden while telling this story? Maybe it's something he got from the genius mind of Dominic Cummings who so accurately [s]told a bunch of barefaced lies[/s] "set the record straight" regarding Barnard Castle...
Curious why he would need to set the record straight on something he swore he was telling the truth about… ???
Well, we all know the answer to that one.
The annoying thing is enough people don't care, or actively approve of his lying so long as they think it suits them.
This really is not about whether Johnson is a bare-faced liar (he is), or whether he is fit to be PM (he isn't). This is about how happy 'we' as an electorate are about it. Do we like liars so long as they bully vulnerable foreigners? Do we like liars because they indulge our fantasies about 'empire' but 120 years too late?
Deep down this is about whether we are arseholes or not.
Unfortunately, after the last 6 years, I think we all know the answer to that
The last time a reliable poll was taken, we were 52% arsehole
"In a speech this morning the Prime Minister will invoked the spirit of Brexit as he unveils a £120million scheme to send men who cross from France in small boats to East Africa, saying: 'The British people voted several times to control our borders."
The spirit of Brexit indeed.
“In a speech this morning the Prime Minister will invoke the mean spirit of Brexit as he unveils a £120million scheme to send men who cross from France in small boats to East Africa, saying: ‘The British people voted several times to control our borders.”
The last time a reliable poll was taken, we were 52% arsehole
Very much so, it would seem.
There was a time, not so long ago, when things like this Rwanda bullshit would have rendered you unelectable.
Now it is seen as a safe play to shore up a parliamentary majority.
FFS people.
😥
Time to recognise that whether we like it or not, there are still a large group of people who would be happy to send a child up a hot chimney to sweep it.
gallowayboy
Full MemberSurprise surprise, my MP, the esteemed Craig Whittaker has called for him to resign. Must have been my numerous contributions to his inbox that tipped the scales….
And Mr Whittaker said: “I not only think that the Prime Minister should resign but I also think that Rishi Sunak should resign as well.”
wow, when a snake like whittaker calls for his resignation...
It would be an interesting strategic dilema, if it wasn't litterly the people running the country.
Everyone knows Johnson is a lying dupicitous shill, even his closest 'allies' will know damn well they cannot trust him, they must just be playing thier cards very carefully as they want to stay on the gravy train.
He's a bit like Vlad Putin in that respect...
But then there is also this...you can't really massage those stats 🙁
The last time a reliable poll was taken, we were 52% arsehole
There was a time, not so long ago, when things like this Rwanda bullshit would have rendered you unelectable.
Now it is seen as a safe play to shore up a parliamentary majority.
FFS people.
And that is why those of us fortunate enough to be north of the border are quite keen to cast off into the blue yonder - not to get rid of the tory overlords but to disassociate ourselves from the winnet voters that sink mainly to the bottom of the isle that vote them in based on these sort of policies.
Oh even more fines
Of course its doesnt end with fines. Boris will say he paid the fines out of his own pocket, but then it'll turn out the Cabinet Office paid them for him, then a Tory Peer will give some fiftyquids to the Conseravitive Party, but then its a loan or something then the electoral commission will kick off and fine the Conservative party , because he didn't declare all the fifty quids, because Boris lied to his own Standards Advisor about where the money came from, then the Standards Advisor will clear Boris of any wrong doing because Boris will have also told him he was unaware of what any arrangements were because he's not aware of things like 'underlying details' .... because it seems to be a perfectly acceptable defence for a PM to say the don't know what they are doing. The Electoral Commission will call it all 'Serious Failings' but the Conservative party will say that really means its just 'A technical breach' and that they'll appeal it - suggesting they think the have a leg to stand on - but actually they won't because they know they don't.
^^^
Can't say I blame you.
^^ Please let it be so.
I’m just here waiting for Boris, Hancock, Cummings and Sunak to form a Judas Priest tribute band… 🤞🤟
Don't get my hopes up (not about the tribute band) 🤞🤞🤞
Even a big thrashing in the May elections won't be enough. They'll just come out with the usual 'we have listened to the electorate and will make changes' drivel that they usually spout and carry on as normal. Sadly they know there's plenty of time between now and a General Election to change the narrative back in their favour. That also means there's plenty of time for them to cock things up even more mind...
2 by-elections tonight
Blue wall & Red wall
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1514738778887364615?t=W7Fol-XN-UNcf2e5W1gZBA&s=19
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1514733088475074571?t=wiJ3R9Tu4Rn1192nTceRQw&s=19
There is going to be a lot of people struggling financially soon, possibly for the first time in their lives.
It's a powder keg and in truth I'm glad the Tories are in power to take the flack for it at the moment.
There is a real lot of **** coming down the line in the next 2 years and I do honestly think there is a good chance Labour will win in '24 now.
I thought the polar opposite to that a year or two ago.
There is hope but im so saddened that it will come out of utter despair for many.
Holy crap! That swing to LibDem is amazing! Actually, so is the boost to Labour. That makes me hopeful, but also a little suspicious that these wards’ central government funding will dry up mysteriously.
Holy crap! That swing to LibDem is amazing! Actually, so is the boost to Labour.
It looks like Labour/Libdems did not field a candidate the last time that Maldon council seat was contested. Some kind of independent given a free run at it.
Either that or they got zero votes!
Poor fella can't even get a trafficking people to Rwanda bounce
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1515457173614206978?t=TtoQzMhh4ZC5tjGtj7Cmug&s=19
Labour hq won't be too sad at these numbers
Local elections will be the real test tho
Local elections will be the real test tho
The closest real-ish test. The only one that really matters is a GE and we're too far out yet.
Locals can be more tricky, there are plenty of Conservative councillors out there in rural places who have strong local backing due to their NIMBY appeasement when it comes to development etc.
But I hope they get a shellacking and that Johnson goes. I don't buy all this stuff about Johnson being some kind of safety net vs the likes of Truss. If he goes now, there is plenty of time for a new leader to be exposed for what they are before the next GE. And there is also the charge on the Tories as a whole that they chose a man to be PM who is patently unfit for the job, broke the law and was ousted mid-parliament. This type of shitshow erodes public confidence in the whole party and that is a good thing.
You don't keep one shit in power because you're afraid of the next one.
Poor fella can’t even get a trafficking people to Rwanda bounce
That shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who doesn't caricature voters as ignorant racists.
A YouGov poll which misunderstood government policy and asked the following question :
The Government has proposed a deal where some people who have entered Britain and applied for asylum will be flown to Rwanda, in Africa, for their asylum applications to be processed. Do you support or oppose this proposal?
Found that only 35% supported the proposal and 42% opposed it.
I think it is probably fair to assume that if the question instead of incorrectly suggesting that the proposal was for "asylum applications to be processed" had suggested permanent deportation to Rwanda, which is the actual proposal, support would have been even lower.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/travel/survey-results/daily/2022/04/14/8bb29/1
One of the sad and overlooked things about this 'deal' is that Rwanda actually see opportunity with asylum seekers who are willing and motivated enough to travel thousands of miles, through hardship and danger, to make their country and economy better.
People really are being sold the lie that there's no room left in the UK, so focused on our present first world problems to not see that the UK will be worse in the long run the way it's going.
But I hope they get a shellacking and that Johnson goes. I don’t buy all this stuff about Johnson being some kind of safety net vs the likes of Truss. If he goes now, there is plenty of time for a new leader to be exposed for what they are before the next GE.
@gardentiger this is the argument for grimly hanging on to him for a while so his successor reaps the benefit of the new broom bounce before reality kicks in. It looks like it will be all bad news for the next few years, there is no point installing a new leader so early they get to be seen as the cause of some of that (even if a lot of it will be down to things that will be beyond their control). I think Johnson may be kept in office as a whipping boy for some time.
That flawed YouGov poll… yes the wording gets the policy wrong, but that’s also how everyone I’ve spoken to currently understands the policy (that Rwanda will be holding asylum-seekers while they apply to return to the UK, rather than asylum to the UK being flat out denied to the seekers)… and yes most voters are against the policy… but it is aimed at a particular kind of voter… you know, people who voted for this kind of thing…
