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But I do wish to point out that this event was reported in the Times newspaper, and elsewhere, the day after it took place.
Oh, well thats alright then.
Maybe we should all start taking the Times every day so we can keep our eye open for future Prime Ministerial lawbreaking being announced?
My own letter:
Dear Mr Daly
Like a lot of your constituents I have watched on in horror as we have seen the level of contempt for the rules demonstrated by our Prime Minister and those in his parliamentary office. Now that we are fully aware of wholesale law breaking in Number ten, by the Prime Minister, his wife, the chancellor and huge numbers of staff, will you now be calling on him to resign?
As a lawyer yourself you must be fully aware that having broken the law, then repeatedly lied to parliament about doing so, his position is now completely untenable.
Surely you are unable to serve under the leadership of a liar and a law breaker?
I would appreciate a reply detailing your position on the utter contempt our PM has shown for the sacrifices so many of us made.
I had to take my father for his cancer treatment and had to leave him at the hospital door and was unable to enter the hospital to support him. My wife could not visit her father in hospital for months where he very nearly died.
I cannot even begin to tell you how angry I am at people who made these rules, then flouted them at will themselves. As I'm sure are many, many of your other constituents.
I eagerly await your reply
Yours sincerely
Looking back at it now, Fatcha looks like some benevolent old auntie in comparison to this shower
** Just to be clear THIS IS NOT A DEFENCE OF THATCHER**
However...
I think the difference between Thatcher and this lot is that Thatcher had principles and a vision that she felt would, eventually, be to the benefit of all, and pursued them relentlessly. Indeed, I once went to a Q&A with Tony Benn (yes, that Tony Benn) and he was asked which modern politician he most admired and he said Thatcher, for exactly that reason.
This lot have no principles other than rampant self-interest. I'm normally fairly ambivalent politics wise, but I despise them.
Ohh, there's some good emails here, I'm doing some cut and paste right now! 🙂
I knew STW would not fail at this time.
I agree with you completely about Fatcha
** and also just to be clear THIS IS NOT A DEFENCE OF THATCHER**
I was watching the Thatcher and Reagan documentary last night(which is brilliant!) and the contrast with this shower couldn't be starker. I absolutely loathed the woman, For entirely predictable reasons (I grew up in the north west in the 80's), but I have to confess a grudging respect for her.
There was no ambiguity. There was no 'saying one thing, and then doing the other'. She clearly articulated what she planned to do and then she did it, whether you liked it or not. Not like these shysters where absolutely everything is self-serving lies and smoke and mirrors and deception.
The irony is that they all claim to admire her and idolise her but I genuinely believe that she would be utterly horrified at what the Tory party has become (UKIP) and she would absolutely despise Boris and his coterie of imbeciles on a personal level, with their preening, shameless air of 'born to rule' entitlement, paired with their shambolic incompetence
The irony is that they all claim to admire her and idolise her but I genuinely believe that she would be utterly horrified at what the Tory party has become (UKIP) and she would absolutely despise Boris and his coterie of imbeciles on a personal level
I think this is very true. She was, famously, a grocer's daughter who go to where she was through dogged determination and, basically, bloody hard work, and had a strong belief in the importance of duty and public service. This current band of entitled, privileged, vacuous, self-interested lightweights very probably have her spinning in her grave.
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Full MemberI think the difference between Thatcher and this lot is that Thatcher had principles and a vision that she felt would, eventually, be to the benefit of all, and pursued them relentlessly.
Yup. I mean, ultimately I think she was basically evil, but she certainly wasn't trying to be evil, and she'd no doubt have been horrified at the idea. And she was smart, driven, informed and interested in becoming more so, hard working... And a sort of honest.
Still an absolute ****ing nightmare as a PM... I can't help but wonder what good she could have done in another role.
Thatcher only really started with the vacuous populism stuff near the end, swapping flags on tables and getting shirty about 'my fish' and 'my oil'. I suspect there were two main reasons for this:
1. Her leadership was looking stale and vulnerable as 'the status quo' is always liable to be perceived as 'boring'.
2. She knew that the rampant consumer credit boom caused by deregulation (as well as the sell-off of nationalised industries) was unsustainable and likely to go 'pop' inside the next parliament.
Which bring us neatly back to rampant inflation - the highest since 1992. No one dares breathe it, but what do we reckon we could take off of the 7% rate if Brexit hadn't happened? I reckon 2-3%, but no one dare even float that one.
Up until 88/89, Thatcher's 'populism' had been a byproduct of deeply held beliefs and circumstance. Up until then she was a woman of principle - principles which condemned millions to poverty. But she wasn't doing it just to make it through the next 24 hour news cycle like the vacuous fraud that is Boris Johnson.
Mine:
Dear Jake Berry,
I am writing to you to register my absolute disgust at the behaviour of our Prime Minister and the Chancellor. They have both knowingly broken the law and lied about the fact. The Government is supposed to lead us and to lead by example. If you have any decency then you will add your name to those calling for them both to resign. If you attempt to defend the indefensible then so be it. The electorate will have their say when the time comes. In closing I would remind you of the words of Margaret Thatcher in 1975:
"The first duty of Government is to uphold the law. If it tries to bob and weave and duck around that duty when it is inconvenient, if government does that, then so will the governed, and then nothing is safe - not home, not liberty, not life itself."
Yours,
Sparkle
I’ve borrowed from others here so others feel free to borrow from me if they like
I am planning to use that Shapps quote in my email to the local mp. He should already be aware of it though given that he is Shapps/Green/whoever.
This was my letter to the local Tory line tower...
Hi Cherilyn,
I'm sure by now you will have seen the news regarding the Prime Minister, and the Chancellor receiving fines for breaking lockdown.
Can I now trust that you'll be sending in a letter to the 1922 committee calling for the resignation of Mr Johnson?
Given that not only has he now been found to have broken the rules that were imposed on us that we all followed, he has also lied to Parliament about this. He is laughing at you, me and every other person in this country for following the rules.
How can we now trust anything that comes out of his mouth?
I very much look forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards
I cant believe we have a criminal running the country.
I've also written to my local MP (Tory), I've only ever written to her once before, quite recently, about Ukraine and haven't had a response yet. I'm cirtainly not expecting a response this time as she seems incapable of independent thought.
Mine
Dear Siobhan,
You recently wrote in the Stroud news and journal that you would wait for the Sue Gray report to cone out. Now we find out that both the Prime Minister and the Chancellor have been fined for breaking Covid laws at parties in Downing Street. I was not surprised because it has been obvious for a long time that laws had been broken – despite the PM’s repeated statements to the contrary.
This evidence of breaking the law is clearly a stronger statement than the Sue Gray report. As your constituent, I ask you to immediately call for Parliament to be recalled and to support a vote of no confidence in this Prime Minister in the Commons. And of course, please also submit your letter of no confidence in your leader to the Chair of the 1922 Committee.
I followed the rules throughout the pandemic. I moved out of my family home to protect my wife and continue to serve the community, running our village shop so that others didn't need to travel out of our small community in Miserden and risk catching covid. It makes me so angry that Mr Johnson tells the country not to mix, to stay home, not to socialise while he enjoyed parties. We – followed the rules, putting our lives on hold. All while those who made the laws broke them repeatedly.
Lawbreakers can’t be lawmakers. Johnson is the first sitting Prime Minister to have been found to have broken the law.
I urge you to consider my request, on behalf of all of us who followed the law and all those who lost their lives in the pandemic.
Monkeyboyjc 😂
We're getting to the point now that the Tory party, in refusing to condemn Johnson and defending this lawbreaking, is debasing itself in the same way as the Republicans are in their refusal to condemn Trump
But then Boris always was a Poundland Trump, so him being happy to discredit his entire party for his own self-interest is only fitting
I live in an extremely wealthy area, surrounded by life long Tory voters who are also my customers. Quite interesting talking to them in the morning when they pick up their morning telegraph's. There seems to be two camps, they either joke it off, or rant about Johnson in complete disgust.
I've one customer who couldn't sing BJ's praises enough a year ago - absolutely hates the man now, has said he will abstain any election whilst he is prime minister.
I've a few others that have lost a fair old wedge of cash due to brexit that say they'll never vote Tory again (generally land owners or farmers). But unfortunately many more who just laugh and say "silly man".
Our local Tory MP is absolutely awful and doesn't help matters for BJ, & our neighboring constancy has the one of the worst long standing MP's ever, also Tory.
our neighboring constancy has the one of the worst long standing MP’s ever, also Tory.
Ah, that'll be arch-Brexiteer Sir Geoff Clinton-Brown, my previous MP, Tory MP for the Cotswolds, the safest of safe seats, who conveniently forgot that his constituency solidly voted Remain.
We’re getting to the point now that the Tory party, in refusing to condemn Johnson
I think we reached that point long ago.
The Boris Johnson Character Product is here to stay for as long as votes keep coming.
I cant believe we have a criminal running the country.
Why not? It has been highly likely since 23rd June 2016. What kind of person would deliberately implement a policy that is damaging to the vast majority of the population? An idiot, a crook or an idiotic crook - that's literally 'it'.
I’ve one customer who couldn’t sing BJ’s praises enough a year ago – absolutely hates the man now, has said he will abstain any election whilst he is prime minister.
Note - will just not vote, still can't bring himself to vote for anyone else. He is part of the problem still, just not in as big a way as the bellends/fanbois.
We’re getting to the point now that the Tory party, in refusing to condemn Johnson and defending this lawbreaking, is debasing itself in the same way as the Republicans are in their refusal to condemn Trump
Yes, but both parties have already debased themselves by engaging in stupid populism that is to the detriment of their electorates..... and won. The Tories twice. The Republicans once with one pretty narrow defeat. Why are we always assuming that they are ashamed of their debasement of themselves? They get well paid for it and that is all they give a fig about. The Tories purged all their 'conscientious' one-nationers.
Acting like boorish thugs appeals to enough of the electorate in the UK and the US. Why would they change tack?
and yet if there were an election on thursday, i'd bet on the tories getting a majority.
Well I am outraged that I do not have a tory MP to email. This is grossly unfair.
Acting like boorish thugs appeals to enough of the electorate in the UK and the US. Why would they change tack?
Good point
What pisses me off more than anything is that this mob have factored it in and gambled that by debasing ALL politics, parties and public institutions - by actively promoting the notion that 'they're all as bad as each other' - They stand to lose slightly less than the others, thus they're the winners
All the Tory voters who will just abstain, mainly in safe constituencies where it will make **** all difference anyway, instead of voting for someone else just proves them right
Note – will just not vote, still can’t bring himself to vote for anyone else. He is part of the problem still, just not in as big a way as the bellends/fanbois.
True - but abstaining is a start. But bare in mind this is a life long Tory voter. A man in his late 80s born to wealth, who has never voted for an other party on any occasion. All of the other parties, Inc green, don't match his politics. Oh and has voted in every single election, by-election, local election and referendum since voting age. He is what would be considered a safe Tory vote in every sense.
He's also quite right wing even for a Tory, and pro brexit.
He's also not the only one that wouldn't be turning up.
Good news in the last month I've moved somewhere I DO have a Tory MP to email. So I have done, inspired greatly by some of the previous good work on this thread.
Dear person with godawful voting record,
Like a lot of your constituents I have watched on in horror as we have seen the level of contempt for the rules demonstrated by our Prime Minister and those in his parliamentary office. Now that we are fully aware of wholesale law breaking in Number 10, by the Prime Minister, his wife, the chancellor and huge numbers of staff, will you now be calling on him to resign?
Surely the fact that he has broken the law, then repeatedly lied to parliament about doing so, should make his position completely untenable.
How do you feel about serving under the leadership of a liar and a law breaker? Do you feel that your position as MP still commands and deserves respect? Your Prime Minister is currently showing you absolutely none.
I would appreciate a reply detailing your position on the utter contempt our PM has shown for the sacrifices so many of us made.
I had to take my 2 year old (at the time) daughter to hospital for a viral infection in December 2020, and was unable to spend time there with my wife. We couldn't even be in the same ward together to hand over the care between ourselves. This meant that we couldn't support each other in one of the most trying times we've experienced together.
Incidentally, if I was to act how the Prime Minister has acted and lied to my colleagues at work in this way, that would count as gross misconduct and I would be fired.
I cannot even begin to tell you how angry I am at people who made these rules, then flouted them at will themselves. As I’m sure are many, many of your other constituents. We all live in a world bound by the consequences of our actions. Why is it that your leadership get to avoid that?
I eagerly await your reply
Yours sincerely,
All excellent letters but I'm guessing you'll either get nothing back or a standard reply that doesn't answer any of your questions but is the standard response to show they have engaged with the voters...
Good news to hear some Tories won't be voting for Tories again (or next time at least) but ideally they should still vote so at least they have taken part and can rightfully complain about how crap this all is.
Ooooh, this is fun!
Dear Mr Mercer,
I'm sure you are aware of the recent news regarding the Met Police issuing fines to both the PM and Chancellor for breach of Covid Legislation. Considering this legislation was brought in by this Government, this is simply unacceptable.
Now that the truth us known, that not only did the PM break the Law but also broke The Ministerial Code by misleading the House (AKA lied) on more than one occasion, I'd like to know when I can look forward to you insisting Parliment is recalled, withdrawing your support for Mr Johnson and calling for his resignation (and submitting a letter of no confidence to the Chair of the 1922 Committee) as my elected representative. Adding the call for the resignation of any other Minister found to have broken the Law or the Code.
Obviously you do plan on this course of action as I'm sure you agree that having a Prime Minister who breaks the law and ministerial code, specifically through lying, would be an affront to the honourable reputation of the House. Especially considering that the PM himself backed a call for the boss of P&O to resign, due to his breaking of the Law.
Knowing your armed services background, I am sure that you understand the importance of following the rules as set out by our leaders and that these rules must be followed by all to be effective in whatever strategy they form a part of. Also, considering the current situation in Ukraine, how could other world leaders believe what the PM says in regards to, well anything.
I am also sure that I do not need to tell you about the depth of anger felt by myself and the rest of your constituents that the person currently "leading" this country and indeed other cabinet ministers, have shown such disdain and contempt for the people of this country in these actions.
I look forward to your response in this matter.
Yours Sincerely
"They're all as bad as each other" will be the line of choice for some from now on - then they'll vote Tory anyway.
My BiL has become a bit Brexity of late. He trots out "They're all as bad as each other a lot".
I consistently say that Keir Starmer was a QC who prosecuted terrorists in very sensitive and complex cases whilst Johnson was being fired from the Times for making shit up.
Then he typically gets a bit aggro and starts harrumphing a lot and the subject gets changed.
Life is too short sometimes.
My BiL has become a bit Brexity of late. He trots out “They’re all as bad as each other a lot”
You need to say how Dumbojo lied to Her Royal Regalness The Queen, took russian money and is a TRAITOR.Give him the full reverse gammon.
All of this has only confirmed the obvious, which is that Boris never deserved or was qualified to run this country. He has always been a self serving entitled dick.
What really annoys me is people - including himself - claiming he did a good job during Covid. No he didn’t. At the very best he just about managed to stand up and regurgitate advice given to him by people more informed than him, and do a barely believable impression that he cared.
Scary between us and the USA how out of nearly 300 million people what arseholes we have ended up with in the last few years.
Scary between us and the USA how out of nearly 300 million people what arseholes we have ended up with in the last few years.
We're spoiled rotten. The UK especially, but also the US has a standard of living that is way out of whack with what we actually produce, in terms of tangible goods.
But instead of being thankful for this and seeking ways to spread this standard of living more equitably and gradually our electorates said "no, **** everyone else, they can't have any of it". But what they had actually been conned into doing was opening ourselves up more to a race to the bottom with the developing world. The harder you try to grip sand, the more falls through your fingers and all that.
Selfish, entitled pricks with delusions of grandeur based on past 'glories'. Easy prey for the disaster capitalists.
Go us!
As expected
More fines for the sack o spuds PM
Surprise surprise, my MP, the esteemed Craig Whittaker has called for him to resign. Must have been my numerous contributions to his inbox that tipped the scales....
Oh even more fines
Gonna be hilarious watching his MPs defend these
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1514347071968587790?t=xfQmSlwIichpng_jyBpQfA&s=19
Surprise surprise, my MP, the esteemed Craig Whittaker has called for him to resign.
Wow.
Not that I’m the writing to MPs type but it would be pointless anyway because to my utter astonishment, our Tory MP has come out and called for Johnson’s resignation. He’s never once shown any inkling of rebellion so I’d say that’s a very good sign. If MPs like Craig Whittaker are breaking cover there’ll be plenty more.
Oh…
But Mr Whittaker said he won't be submitting a letter to the 1922 Committee calling for a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister.
“All that does is, after the trigger point of a number of letters, there is a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister and my expectation is that he would win that process and with the amount of stuff currently going on, with Ukraine and the crisis around energy and the cost of living crisis for people, I think that's just taking away from what needs to be done on a day-to-day basis and that is to get on and manage the country."
[ Halifax Courier ]
I’ve been reading the various emails to local MP’s, and the comments that they might just get deleted. I’m going to put pen to paper, and express my opinion, as with a couple of people here my partner was taken ill just over a year ago, and I wasn’t allowed to accompany her, either to Bath, or then to Bristol. As it turned out, she was more than likely brain-stem damaged and had died before she got to Bath, but it would have meant so much to have been able to hold her hand and talk to her during the journeys, and I wasn’t allowed to. The fact that the lawmakers of this country deliberately flouted those same rules angers me almost beyond description.
I will be making my opinion very clear, and I will be posting the letter through her constituency office letterbox, as I walk past it.
Bollox to partygate. This is the real scandal, if you are looking for something to write to your MP about :
https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-to-be-sent-6-000-miles-to- rwanda-for-processing-under-government-plans-to-halt-channel-crossings-12589616
Cruel, inhumane, and a total waste of vast amounts of money, which will achieve nothing other satisfy a few right-wing columnists and Tory MPs who desperately attempt to appeal to bigotry and ignorance. Replacing the current Tory leader would make no difference.
"I accept that these people - whether 600 or 1,000 - are in search of a better life, the opportunities that the United Kingdom provides and the hope of a fresh start"
People "in search of a better life" is not the definition of an asylum seeker, as well he knows. He is deliberately attempting to create a false impression of what these people represent because he is no doubt uncomfortable at the callous treatment political and war refugees will be subjected to.
As the article points out :
The British Red Cross said it was "profoundly concerned" about the plans to "send traumatised people halfway round the world to Rwanda".
The pretence that he is primarily motivated by humanitarian concerns is absurd.
As is his cynical attempt to suggest that this is a benefit of brexit. The Tory MP David Davis who has a far longer commitment to brexit than Johnson is one of the most outspoken critic of this pointless and cruel scheme :
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/16/offshore-asylum-seekers-david-davis-scrap-plans
I was watching this earlier, and the reaction in the studio was interesting, nobody quite knew what to say, so I’m glad there’s a transcript…
Ah, Kimbers has just beaten me to it. Bummocks.
Bollox to partygate.
You don’t have to only pick one thing to write about. There’s an endless supply of contempt, inhumanity, corruption and destructive policy and implementation failure from this Brexit enabled government as they seek to keep the people who put them in power happy (be that donors looking for a return on their investments, or voters who irrationally hate people coming to this country whether that is to seek asylum or just to make a living).
CountZero
I’ve been reading the various emails to local MP’s, and the comments that they might just get deleted. I’m going to put pen to paper, and express my opinion, as with a couple of people here my partner was taken ill just over a year ago, and I wasn’t allowed to accompany her, either to Bath, or then to Bristol. As it turned out, she was more than likely brain-stem damaged and had died before she got to Bath, but it would have meant so much to have been able to hold her hand and talk to her during the journeys, and I wasn’t allowed to. The fact that the lawmakers of this country deliberately flouted those same rules angers me almost beyond description.
I will be making my opinion very clear, and I will be posting the letter through her constituency office letterbox, as I walk past it.
I can't imagine your grief & anger, I at least got to hold my wife's hand as she died 6 months before Covid struck.
That One Show clip is fantastic.
All the stories above about people's loss and inability to be there when it meant the most is exactly the reason why this must not be allowed to go away.
Can't we just send the tory scum to Rawanda and let the asylum seekers in.
Surprise surprise, my MP, the esteemed Craig Whittaker has called for him to resign.
He was also pretty strident in his calls to get shot of Dom Cummings after all that nonsense as well. I don't think he's a fan of Johnson et al.