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Well, there's his dead cat on the table.
What a ****.
You know, he really is dangerous.
Not an ounce of humility, morality or conscience to guide him. If he was an office worker I wouldn't care that much but as a PM...
Sturgeon on twitter
As of tonight, there’s a gaping moral vacuum where the office of Prime Minister used to be. I didn’t know Jo Cox but I’m certain this man is not fit to speak her name.
Do you think he was coked up? angry, arrogant, full of bullshine? sounds like a cokehead to me.
BJ4P45 should travel to meet the family and friends of Jo Cox and beg for their forgiveness. What a total scum bag.
The thing is, will Conservative voters forgive their party for making him PM, and vote for them still anyway? I suppose they might convince themselves that it’s all a media hatchet job, or, worse, that having a man so unsuitable to lead this country as PM is fine, because at least he wears their rosette? Or will enough of them stand up against this?
Given Boris's track record,
Would it be cynical of me to think that this is all planned and premeditated in order to stir up a reaction from the opposition, wrong-foot them into a GE or some such?
If they react, he wins. If they don't react they'll get a kicking for not doing so. The man has the moral compass of a psychopath.
I’d say it was blindingly obvious.
The thing is, will Conservative voters forgive their party for making him PM, and vote for them still anyway? I suppose they might convince themselves that it’s all a media hatchet job, or, worse, that having a man so unsuitable to lead this country as PM is fine, because at least he wears their rosette? Or will enough of them stand up against this?
Most of them agree with him. They think his breaking the law is just ‘getting the job done’. All the talk of the judges being politically motivated is to get people on his side, basically anything that opposes him is a witch-hunt (sound familiar?) which further reinforces the support. Also gives him a way out/someone else to blame when he can’t deliver.
Leaving the EU/brexit has become a full on cult.
He is a troll of the highest order, someone who lies for a living whilst giving IT Contracts to his harem, spends public money for his own reward and is happy to screw anyone over including his supporters.
Heres my new image of him...
Batman's Robin has really let himself go.
Would it be cynical of me to think that this is all planned and premeditated
I think that is playing into the 4d chess claims often used for trump.
I think it is more likely he was tired and bad tempered after his sense of entitlement took a severe bashing and since his debating skills seem somewhat limited just lashed out.
A lot of people simply think he is standing up for Brexit against a traitorous parliament.
The words might differ, person to person but the above is a widely held view. NOT.MINE.
I dipped into FB via a browser earlier (I won't install the app) and regretted it.
Mass amounts of lazily shared slogans/pics saying all the usual bs.
Also...The killing of Cox as being done by a nutter and not related to Brexit at all. Most Brexiteers don't give a crap about her death. Let's be clear here. Just a casualty along the way. A price worth paying. Particularly as she was a remainer. They might not say that out load but inside...
Scary eh?
As a long time lurker TJ has always come across as an opinionated, arrogant, paranoid with a chip on his shoulder. However having watched this evenings farce, I have to fully agree with him. I am stunned that I would ever see a display like that from a British PM.
I fear that there will be dire consequences from the PM’s approach to anyone who dares question him, no matter what he does, which I am sure he will just shrug off Alexander Johnson is just a psychopath!
Most Brexiteers don’t give a crap about her death.
As she was a pretty ardent remain campaigner, I’d say they’d see it as one less obstacle.
Makes what the fat blonde **** said all the more offensive.
I know the last person to hold Jo Cox as she does. Tonight was nothing short of a disgrace. I look forward to his ritual humiliation on the steps of Number 10 announcing that we are going to extend Article 50 on November 1st.
^^ Totally agree. On both counts tom. I think bj doesn't really have any lines he won't cross.
He and Cummings are going to play people vs parliament all the way. At any cost.
I can't but help think that in a few weeks from now today will seem tame in comparison. No way is this going to get better any time soon.
We are witnessing a fight for the very heart and soul of this country and its not like the movies. Good doesn't always prevail, plenty of evidence of that already.
people vs politics puts more power in the hands of the press owners, who last I looked, were unelected.
short term public opinion is scary.
I'm sure Ernst Thälmann...sorry...I mean Corbyn....will come to our rescue and stop Boris...just after he's dealt with the social fascists Tom Watson....
Rayban - thats just a vile comment.
You know I’m mildly fond of your shenanigans TJ, so if you can point out why - I’ll consider your accusation.
I think you are intelligent enough to understand. On a thread about Johnson where people are condemning his actions you have to come in with an attack on corbyn based on total falsehoods - it make you look like you are defending Johnson using the same tactics and language as he did, Its disgusting
I hate Johnson just as much as you TJ, I’ve just gotten past the point of hoping Corbyn can or will do anything about it.
I’m just frustrated and disheartened at the increasingly simplistic messages coming from both sides of the political spectrum.
On one side we have a coked up lunatic proroguing parliament - on the other side we have someone putting out simple sound bites on complex topics that I don’t think I could even begin to understand without writing a dissertation on it first (the economics of pharmaceutical supply)
So why do you defend Johnson then - because that is what your post is. disgusting and this is the last time I ever respond to you until you apologise for your disgusting behaviour. You have outed your=self.
I understand you’re as pissed as me TJ, I just choose to vent it differently- I apologise for that.
I’d be voting to transfer the capital to Scotland if I could....
....truce?
I wonder how well bj slept last night? Great I suspect. Not a care in the world. Oh to be that self centred and financially insulated.
Let's see what today throws up. I still reckon the rhetoric of yesterday will sound tame a few weeks from now which is a worrying thought.
That’s how I feel poopscoop, I mean I’m ****ing cynical - I foresaw most of this stupidity by just being the type of person that thinks of the most pessimistic worst case scenario and decides - well humans are involved so that worst case scenario is a given.
Except this has gone well beyond what I once thought were absurdist positions.
Bloody hell. Is it too late to find a bunker in the mountains and fill it with tinned goods and bottled water? This is heading in a very nasty direction very quickly.
The sad thing is this could well be the new normal in politics, pre-Trump & BoJo no major politician would have behaved like this (however lacking in morals they may have been) and would have been given no option to resign over their conduct. Nowadays though it just seems like if you keep ramping up the diatribe enough, or call anything negative against you fake news, that you can get away with it and can carry on doing whatever the **** you like. I think only arrest/imprisonment/mass civil unrest has got any chance of reversing this trend and all those seem unlikely.
https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1176839648406122497?s=19
Some background on the pole-dancer turned "tech entrepreneur" and her relationship with BJ. Some more very frightening links in there too...
Mass civil unrest calling for moderation....has that even ever happened before?
Mass unrest is almost always followed by something on the periphery of the political spectrum.
Even at my dumb level of political understanding, this is “I don’t care about anyone else as long as I’m PM and we exit Europe” in its lowest possible form.
I thought we’d reached the bottom of the barrel in the worlds eyes when we couldn’t deliver Brexit due to Parliament members personal career choices, but this really is so something else.
Some background on the pole-dancer turned “tech entrepreneur” and her relationship with BJ. Some more very frightening links in there too…
It's shameful that it is taking citizen journalism to join the dots because of the ownership of much of the British media, and the emasculation of the rest.
The same could be said of the Trump situation and the likes of @sethabramson in the US.
Kryton57
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“I don’t care about anyone else as long as I’m PM and we exit Europe” in its lowest possible form.
I'd consider myself politically naive as well but I think the brexit bit to him isn't that important, it's just the current tool to achieve the first part, staying PM.
"I wonder how well bj slept last night? Great I suspect. Not a care in the world. Oh to be that self centred and financially insulated."
+100!
I sincerely hope Acurigate will be his undoing. The Loathsome toad.
It's as though both Trump & Boris are reading from the same manual. ffs.
It’s as though both Trump & Boris are reading from the same manual.
I didn’t know Steve Bannon had a book out?
Mein Kampf is a bit before Steve Bannon.
As a throwaway addition to this thead at this point in time, somewhere around July the Conservative Muslim Forum Chair said:
"But he as far as I’m concerned has insufficient concern about the nature of truth for me to ever be a member of a party that he leads."
https://twitter.com/ashcowburn/status/1176967847924391937
I have to say the level of debate and self correction in Parliament by moral and upstanding MPs is fantastic. When they shout digust at the PM they are shouting for all of us. It is sad therefore that if not in power there is very little they can do about it. Love this guy's passion:
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The PM in our house now is called Jorris Bonson, it's a clown name and it seems apt.
It’s shameful that it is taking citizen journalism to join the dots because of the ownership of much of the British media, and the emasculation of the rest.
The right wing media are so desperate for Brexit to happen as soon as possible while there's still a significant minority of people shouting "get it done!" that they're not interested in reporting any actual news about it.
Smear and denigrate "others", some news about which celebrity is shagging which footballer and Boris can quietly get on with screwing the entire country without too much scrutiny.
there’s still a significant minority of people shouting “get it done!” that they’re not interested in reporting any actual news about it.
You think its a minority shouting ‘get it done’ ?! Seriously?
A significant minority, yes.
If it was a clear and constant majority, a PM would just get past the logjam in Parliment by holding a referendum … their withdrawal agreement (or leave without one) vs keep the status quo. They could just say ‘here is a way of getting this done, back it’.
Any chance someone takes Boris to court for incitement?
Does he even realise what he’s doing or is Cummings fist so far up his arse his brain no longer registers his actions?
Did he ever realise what he was doing?
He's essentially a political version of one of those semi-scripted "reality show" characters. It's like Westminster Shore or something.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
It's just a continuation of his 'journalism'.
So when he wrote that piece about Muslim women being 'Bank Robbers' and 'Letterboxes' it was, apparently, according to him, a piece defending the right of Muslim women to wear whatever they liked.
But with its sneering, hostile tone, and the use of such crude and inflammatory, racist language, he might as well have just titled it "I'm not racist, but...."
He's just doing the same now. Being glaringly offensive, and inciting things but dressing it up just enough for it to be potentially deniable.
MPs vote no recess for Tory conference
7 votes and 2 court cases with 100% fail record. That is awesome. Looks like Boris Trump will fulfil his ambition of being remembered by history
The problem for Boris (real name Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson) is the 'dead cat' only works if you keep outdoing yourself. Last month 'I paint buses on wine boxes' worked, yesterday it was mentioning Jo Cox.
Tomorrow? Meeting the Queen naked with a dead corgi shoved up his arse?
That is effing hilarious.
Now the bleating will be about how its going to cost manchester 30 million quid to cancel it
Serves them ruddy well right ( the tories) Expect more humiliating defeats and votes intended to embarrass Johnson. the commons scents blood
the commons scents blood
Stop that.
I found the final sentence particularly amusing, where Michael Gove apparently takes on the role of the Iraqi Information Minister.
Al Jazeera:
Johnson is continuing his efforts to govern in the face of numerous obstacles. He has lost every single parliamentary vote of his premiership. He lost his parliamentary majority when he sacked 21 of his MPs and a further two defected. On Monday, he lost at the Supreme Court 11-0 as justices ruled unanimously against him.
And he has been given two weeks by the London Assembly to explain his relationship with Jennifer Arcuri, a pole-dancing American former model who reportedly accompanied Johnson on overseas trips during his time as London mayor, and whose company received about 120,000 pounds ($150,000) of taxpayers' money in that time.
Cabinet Minister Michael Gove said the prime minister was a "born winner", despite all evidence to the contrary.
Now the bleating will be about how its going to cost manchester 30 million quid to cancel it
Very prescient, that's exactly what's happening. I've just seen tweets to that effect in reply to a Conservative MP bleating on about not getting their jolly.
Also, £30m? Boris on a bendy bus.
So what laws will the commons put in place next week / motions to be passed?
I suspect a much tougher forcing of Johnson to go cap in hand to the EU for an extension. some sort of censure motion and a trap laid to make him either apologise or be found in contempt off parliament and possibly even a bid to depose him without an election
it was a clear and constant majority, a PM would just get past the logjam in Parliment by holding a referendum …
Or an election.. The opposition would have to grow some first though.
> sigh <
Obvious goading is obvious.
An election before an extension has been obtained allows an “accidental” No Deal Brexit to happen during the election campaign. Everyone knows it. Shouting “cowardly” and hoping everyone is an idiot won’t work.
By the way, in your case, I have no idea if you’re hoping others are idiots, or if you’ve fallen for the line yourself.
Depressing but essential twitter thread…
https://twitter.com/ellieelizaa/status/1177202365964980224?s=21
Sorry guys, it's been mentioned about what bj's sister said about him today I take it?
She didn’t mention Crispin Odey by name, but she might as well have.
Obvious goading is obvious.
Unfortunately many mouth breathing dullards seem to think that the Back To The Future approach is a legitimate political tactic.
A quick quote from that C4 programme from Crispin Odey…
My phrase is, there's Boris One and Boris Two. Boris One is a charming guy who tries to get everything by charming people, and bringing a bit of enthusiasm where there hasn't been any. And says 'come on, surely you can see where your future lies'. That's Boris One.
Boris Two, which nobody's really seen, is the one where Boris One has been denied and he is then fighting for his survival. And the interesting thing is, all of the risks to Boris about being unscrupulous then become part of his genius.
Jorris Bonson's government are a disgrace! get these ****ers out of power now.
*video on link, it won't imbed*
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49846830/labour-mp-karl-turner-confronts-dominic-cummings-over-death-threats
Dom Cummings will be the fall guy, 'aww it was all his fault, I was mis-advised,'
nice little woge for Dom and off he goes.. to a house in the country with a big garden, safe in his wealth that Brexit will have no affect whatsoever to his lifestyle, ****.
By the way, in your case, I have no idea if you’re hoping others are idiots, or if you’ve fallen for the line yourself.
Agree, he should have called an election when he became PM, but i think now its the only way to get rid of the moaners and get the job done.
Another referendum is pointless as im sure that Leave would win by an even bigger margin than before.
Jorris Bonson’s government are a disgrace! get these **** out of power now.
Yes its disgraceful wanting to implement the largest democratic vote in history, an utter disgrace!
Andy, were you playing Barry Shitpeas on tv the other day?
Wanting to implement Brexit isn’t a disgrace (not my view, btw) but inciting violence against MPs, Lying to the queen, unlawfully shutting down parliamentary scrutiny, refusing to accept the law is correct and behaving like an Eton 6th form bully giving wedgies to new 1st years, certainly is.
He is supposed to be the adult in charge of our relations with heads of state.
He is supposed to represent the head of our democratic system and the rule of law.
He is suppose to “Grow the **** Up”!
its disgraceful wanting to implement the largest democratic vote in history,
It's disgraceful for a representative democracy blindly wanting to implement the result of a statistically insignificant majority in an opinion poll held over three years ago, and trying every dirty trick in the book to do so including lying to and manipulating the populace in order to please rich businessmen who bankrolled the entire thing.
This is a 2016 argument, go directly to page 2 of the brexit thread, do not pass Go, do not collect £200 (cos it's worth **** all any more).
An election isn't going to help. This from Sir John Major's speech earlier.
andypaul
Yes its disgraceful wanting to implement the largest democratic vote in history, an utter disgrace!
The utter disgrace is the fact that it a core of die-hard right-wing nut jobs in the Conservative party that have thwarted Brexit and their preparedness to crash our economy and future prosperity for their disaster capitalist ambitions at the behest of their non-dom paymaster. The boring trope about it somehow being a 'remainer' plot when all along it's dirty foreign money that's funding your narrative.
Right that’s it, stop the world I want to get off. I agree with with a former Tory Prime Minister!
*at time of writing Boris Johnson is the current Prime Minister.
largest democratic vote in history
What? Not even close sweetheart.
Funny how easily andypaul and his ilk are taken in. All the ERG nut jobs had to do was compromise slightly and you would have had your Brexit.
Because of their intransigence, parliament has taken back control - ironically exactly what you apparently wanted so stop bleating about it. You should be celebrating!
If you want to get mad, get mad with Reese-Mogg and his mates. You won't of course because it is too easy to believe the BS they feed you.
Right that’s it, stop the world I want to get off. I agree with with a former Tory Prime Minister!
I know how you feel someone posted a Thatcher quotation the other day on Twitter and it wasn't wrong. I felt dirty and also a bit adult.
Another poster posited Occam's Razor this morning for the PM's performance last night. The theory was that it wasn't a strategy but the real man on show last night. A narcissistic psychopath at work. We as a country are in avery bad place.
An election isn’t going to help.
When the sitting government is deeply unpopular and has a majority of -40 and the opposition parties won't take over and do the job themsleves the only thing left is an election and hope someone gets a workable majority or at least two parties cobble together some kind of electoral deal that allows them to form a majority government.
Plus if he lost Corbyn really would have to go and could be replaced with someone palatable to the electorate, so an election could bring the Labour party back into the game overnight. A post momentum Labour party with sane leadership would win a landslide against the current mortally wounded Tory party.
The libdems would only work with either of the main party if the leader changed so theres another way the situation might change.
There's always the possibility the Libdems won outright and just revoked. That would buy at least five years of sanity and who knows the Brexit Party/Farage might just quit.
...but yeah an election could well change nothing, but it *could* change things and there's literally no alternative.
Funny how easily andypaul and his ilk are taken in. All the ERG nut jobs had to do was compromise slightly and you would have had your Brexit.
Because of their intransigence, parliament has taken back control – ironically exactly what you apparently wanted so stop bleating about it. You should be celebrating!
If you want to get mad, get mad with Reese-Mogg and his mates. You won’t of course because it is too easy to believe the BS they feed you.
Populism. It works well for people who don’t like to think too much. Or can’t.
‘Andypaul and his ilk’ are really the ones who are having the piss taken. Poor loves. Still, there’s no telling some people. Some infants just won’t take an adult’s word for it that fire is hot, so in goes the hand.
I still wonder if he was full of coke last night
I'm still going with bipolar.
I'd go with ex employer and current billionaire backer's opinion. Boris is a genuinely nasty guy when his back is against the wall.
He is loving playing out the biggest gamble in his life with little or no personnel downside if he loses.
Its beyond reckless.
His attitude displays a ludicrously privileged man who has never heard the word ‘no’ and has never had to deal with the consequences of any of his actions.
Just like that other **** Cameron
Eton has a lot to answer for
We as a country are in avery bad place.
The scales of justice have saved us once, they’ll save us again.
While its still legal can I call him a ****?
It's just incredible though.
My sister and bil are big fans of his. Couldn't give a damn about his lies and lack of morality.
As so often is the case, they stand to lose out in a post Brexit Britain. Dependant on the nhs etc.they aren't well off. It's almost all about immigration with them...
Sister is always complaining about the NHS so I can't wait to say "told you so" if there are shortages in her meds or the NHS goes completely down the plan. Moronic.