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His primary talent is walking away from the mess he makes,lying and getting away with it and taking credit for others actions.

I read a quote the other day, paraphrasing: Boris is the sort of man who will wait to see in which direction everyone is running, then jump in front of them shouting "Follow me!"

My council have sent me a form to check/update the electoral register…Do they know something we don’t?

I got this too, I completed it online and it asked me to complete a short survey. The survey was from the Electoral Reform Commission or something similar. The first two questions (again, paraphrasing from memory) were:

Would you be more likely to vote online using a system guaranteed to be secure by computer security professionals?

Would you be more likely to vote online using a system guaranteed to be secure by the government?

Needless to say, my answers to these two questions were diametrically different...


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:24 pm
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Boris could leave the office in few months time if he does not Brexit with No-Deal.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:27 pm
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So, by that rationale, Jamba’s fair game as he could reply if he wanted?

To the extent that anyone is "fair game" I suppose, which is not very.

https://singletrackworld.com/terms-and-conditions/


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:28 pm
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It’s poor form to criticise people like THM who no longer have right of reply.

+1

So, by that rationale, Jamba’s fair game as he could reply if he wanted?

How about we just don't ad hom *anyone*.

Boris could leave the office in few months time if he does not Brexit with No-Deal.

As a guy on R4 said this morning, the only way Boris can guarantee being PM in 6-9 months time is a second referendum. Makes you think.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:38 pm
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How about we just don’t ad hom *anyone*.

No intention of having a pop at anyone..

The juxtaposition of the two statements made my brain itch a bit is all.

I'm wired up funny.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:40 pm
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Would you be more likely to vote online using a system guaranteed to be secure by computer security professionals?

Would you be more likely to vote online using a system guaranteed to be secure by the government?

Bit vague still, though? Someone employed by the government (or gov dept.s) to work on "computer security" is a computer security professional, aren't they?

And it's all outsourced anyway isn't it? What's the difference? Do they just want o know who they should ask to tell you it's secure?


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:42 pm
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As a guy on R4 said this morning, the only way Boris can guarantee being PM in 6-9 months time is a second referendum. Makes you think.

If any PM or politicians go for a 2nd referendum before even exited will only consign their own party to history to never see the daylight again.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:44 pm
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In 2010 *everyone* thought Austerity was “necessary” and “prudent”. All the parties were advocating cuts to reduce the deficit.

Probably because it was/is “necessary”.

There's a huge difference between 'austerity', which was a fadish idea from the Chicago school of economics, largely discredited as a pointless exercise, and cuts to reduce the deficit.

Those outside the school of economics favoured by Thatcher and her acolytes never thought austerity was necessary or prudent.

You can't spend to avoid a recession but you can spend to get out of one. See the great depression.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:44 pm
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The current system isn't particularly secure anyway.

During the last General Election I found myself in a van with a mate, just after 10 at night, in lawful possession of both a padlocked ballot box full of votes and a set of bolt croppers.

In a marginal constituency that box might swing the result either way and i'm not particularly trustworthy.

Makes you think


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:47 pm
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Prime Minister Boris Johnson 😀

Wonder if he will make the same mistake as his pal ...


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:48 pm
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That's an open ended statement Chewkw. You could be hinting at almost anything from a pigs head to becoming 'leader' of the free world.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:52 pm
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That’s an open ended statement Chewkw. You could be hinting at almost anything from a pigs head to becoming ‘leader’ of the free world.

PM Johnson just mentioned broadband ...

My advice to PM Johnson is that ALL homes should have compulsory fibre optic connection ... I want superdoper broadband speed rather than my 10mpbs ...


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:58 pm
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Personally, I prefer the killfile for filtering out nonsensical non-sequiturs.

I just wish it would work on Prime Ministers.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 4:59 pm
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No intention of having a pop at anyone..

Yup, I totally got your point, I just thought it was a convenient 'in' to make my point.

There’s a huge difference between ‘austerity’, which was a fadish idea from the Chicago school of economics, largely discredited as a pointless exercise, and cuts to reduce the deficit.

I think Austerity is just a cool buzzword for spending less.

You can’t spend to avoid a recession but you can spend to get out of one.

Until Trump nobody had ever tried it. Trump's the first leader of any nation to try stimulus at this point in the cycle. If Corbyn wins he will be the second. (Or says he will.)

EDIT: Actually no. Boris is going to spend money like water (Or says he will) so we'll find out for ourselves imminently.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 5:03 pm
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The media will have a field day with PM Johnson coz they love him for his interesting ability to help them generate income i.e. more to write ... 😆


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 5:03 pm
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Until Trump nobody had ever tried it. Trump’s the first leader of any nation to try stimulus at this point in the cycle. If Corbyn wins he will be the second. (Or says he will.)

Didn't FDR also dramatically increase spending during the New Deal programme? Or am I looking at the wrong point in the economic cycle of the time?


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 5:21 pm
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Didn’t FDR also dramatically increase spending during the New Deal programme? Or am I looking at the wrong point in the economic cycle of the time?

I assume Economists deemed that to be on the way out of a recession. But how do they know it wasn't on the way out and the stimulus didn't work? Not really sure how they know what point of the cycle we're really at, either. How do they know Trumps doing it at the wrong time?

...but "You can’t spend to avoid a recession but you can spend to get out of one." tallies with what I've read and after 10 years of growth (allbeit poor) it seems reasonable that we're about to have a slump so I really don't think spending is likely to be a golden bullet at this point and if it is it isn't skill from Trump/Corbyn/Boris it's just pure luck. (Or rather the democratic tendency to over promise on spending.)


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 5:29 pm
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Someone employed by the government (or gov dept.s) to work on “computer security” is a computer security professional, aren’t they?

Not necessarily with the companies we outsource to.
Stupid question since no one can guarantee it and, even if they could, the correct answer is option three. Have the source code available so its tested a)by GCHQ b)some hired specialists and b)any other researcher who fancies the headlines by finding flaws in it.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 6:10 pm
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Dominic Cummings confirmed as a “Senior Advisor”

Well, it seems Johnson understands that he will have to be solidly in campaign mode form here on to prepare to get a real mandate to really be PM. So expect this year to be all about promises that won’t actually be tested this side of whenever this election is being planned for.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 6:25 pm
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Just about sums up Bo Jo not work safe. sweary words


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 6:28 pm
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Didn’t FDR also dramatically increase spending during the New Deal programme? Or am I looking at the wrong point in the economic cycle of the time?

That was what I was referring to re: the great depression.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 7:13 pm
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Massive spending on infrastructure helped the US out of the 30's depression.Similar levels of spending (obviously reconstruction ) in Germany (west) and Japan after WW2, eventually created two modern and prosperous nations." Austerity" over the last decade has created the social and economic mess we are now in, where its easy to blame the "foreigners" for the mess.

Fortunately things are about change, aren't they?


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 7:16 pm
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. How do they know Trumps doing it at the wrong time?

Well, given that the US has passed the point at which the unemployment rate was supposed to trigger runaway inflation, and the Fed has admitted they got that wrong, nobody seems to know much. Employment is a trailing indicator but that low level of unemployment seems to indicate they don't really need stimulus - which may or may not trigger runawaya inflation if there is a jobless rate which triggers it.

It is difficult to spend to prevent a recession because technically you need two consecutive quarters of gdp drops, which is a trailing indicator, there are indicators which pretty reliably predict recessions but if you spend to prevent a recession, and you don't get a recession, did you prevent it, or was it not going to happen in the first place?


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 7:22 pm
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Good first speech from Johnson and demonstrates that he has his eye on the needs of the country with his references to increased spending on police, education and health. He will deal with brexit quickly and clearing out the useless cabinet is already a great start to his premiership. So refreshing to hear someone in politics with a positive view of the nation, it's people and the future.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 8:25 pm
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Well if there was one good thing about today it was wee Fluffy getting his jotters. Spineless, gutless, snivelling wee prick that he is.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 8:36 pm
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Good first speech...He will deal with brexit quickly

Meanwhile back in the real world

Mr Varadkar said that listening to what Mr Johnson said today, he got the impression he was not just talking about deleting the backstop, but a whole new and better deal for Britain.

"That is not going to happen. The EU council doesn't meet until 12 October. We have no plans to meet any earlier."

"Any suggestion that there would be a whole new deal negotiated in weeks or months is totally not in the real world".


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 8:43 pm
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I don't know which one Fluffy is but I'm happy to see total **** Mundell thrown in the bin-he only go the job by default but nobody knows how he held onto it after there was more than one scottish tory.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 8:43 pm
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Fluffy/Mundell one and the same.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 8:46 pm
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Good first speech from Johnson and demonstrates that he has his eye on the needs of the country with his references to increased spending on police, education and health. He will deal with brexit quickly and clearing out the useless cabinet is already a great start to his premiership. So refreshing to hear someone in politics with a positive view of the nation, it’s people and the future.

Bookmarked.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 8:47 pm
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Looks like he’s found all those magic money trees that Theresa and Jezza haven’t been able to locate.

Well, either that or his pledges of increased spending are complete and utter bullshit?

No... I’m sure he’s found a forest of money trees, and now he’s got them he’s going to spend their proceeds on health, education and the police and has absolutely no intention of frittering away the lot on tax cuts for his rich mates


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 8:55 pm
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Personally, I prefer the killfile for filtering out nonsensical non-sequiturs.

is there a killfile setting to filter out mentions of the killfile? 😆


 
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Posted : 24/07/2019 10:04 pm
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Boris is a pure fanny as is Rees-Mogg and whit rhymes with Hunt?


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 10:06 pm
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New foreign secretary didn't know Dover was a busy port, sounds promising.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 10:31 pm
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FFS - and people still prefer Boris to Corbyn...
https://news.sky.com/story/britons-pessimistic-about-future-under-boris-johnson-sky-data-poll-11769810


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 10:37 pm
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G

g ood first speech from Johnson and demonstrates that he has his eye on the needs of the country with his references to increased spending on police, education and health.

More Police, to stamp down on civil unrest, and more parts of the police privatised,more spending on education to brainwash the kids he is alawys right and to pay shareholders in academy schools more dividends, and increasing health paynments to private contractors when the nhs is finally destroyed


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 10:44 pm
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New foreign secretary didn’t know Dover was a busy port, sounds promising.

Nah, that's the job of the HOME Secretary innit.
Foreign Secretary just needs to know about the Channel...oh wait a minute...


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 10:45 pm
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Well at least Ross Thomson isn't the new Scottish Secretary.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 10:51 pm
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spending on education to brainwash the kids

Yeah, you're just another brick in the wall aren't you! I mean, **** education it's all for toffs, clearly. Because A-level economics is clearly Tory propaganda, with absolutely no mention of Keynesian economics, like at all.


 
Posted : 24/07/2019 10:52 pm
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Those water cannons could yet prove to be a bit of genius foresight!


 
Posted : 25/07/2019 12:10 am
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What’s the betting that these money trees are to be funded by a new, fair tax system, designed to put an end to austerity.

How will it be fair? Every one pays the same amount. That’s fair innit?


 
Posted : 25/07/2019 12:26 am
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My guess is it won't be funded, it will be a case of taking on a long term debt that we have to pay off over two to three decades to offset a sharp shock from a no deal brexit - a bit how like a suspension damper works I guess.

It's a cynical ploy to enable a no deal brexit, however, all this talk about magic money trees and fiscal irresponsibility from the left just sounds insincere and opportunistic and won't be the way to win an election.

Convincing voters that there is a fair and sustainable way to drive economic growth without resorting to short termism or destructive economic policies is what will win an election.


 
Posted : 25/07/2019 12:46 am
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Dominic Raab is foreign secretary. The man who was genuinely surprised that as an island we are quite dependent on our ports

I bet his new staff are really looking forward to explaining to him, in words of less than two syllables, with pictures, the complexities of Middle Eastern politics to him.

Good move from Boris to ensure he’s not quite the most incompetent foreign secretary ever

Looks like what we’ve witnessed today is a full on far right coup

3 weeks preparation and you can pull it off in an afternoon

If only Pinochet had had Dominic Cummings? Could have spared himself a lot of agro


 
Posted : 25/07/2019 12:46 am
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The media will have a field day with PM Johnson coz they love him for his interesting ability to help them generate income i.e. more to write … 😆

What, you didn't get any traction on the other thread, so you thought you'd try this one?
I suspect this might be your best result...


 
Posted : 25/07/2019 12:54 am
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Oh, and if you're planning to spend big in education, get it to the early years, where it counts. Fannying about with higher education could be seen as cynical electioneering.


 
Posted : 25/07/2019 1:05 am
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