A classic example of why you should never lie about something in public with the proliferation of smart phones - James Bond in the 80's would be astonished.
Blimey, Boris got off the podium sharpish at the end. All that jogging hasn't been wasted.
Was he saying goodbye as he left the room?
Breaking:
The MET have confirmed they are NOT going to investigate the party on the 18th...
What a surprise.
Guidance to wfm where is possible is completely pointless, make it a law or unscrupulous bosses will ignore the guidance and make their staff continue to come into the office even when their jobs can easily be done from home.
The met seems to be really missing the point here
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/1468662088327434248?t=VsuvpyX-h6yMcHk7gQ5DwA&s=19
Where does the pharmaceutical claim come from? I’d imagine consumer goods, retail and food dwarf drug advertising in the UK.
https://www.adbrands.net/uk/top-advertisers-in-the-uk.html
No sign of the malign presence of big pharma.
Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk… ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children’s ice cream
Hope that's not a reference to me, this isn't my main account, but I'm not here to post anti-vax twaddle
Told you l the met would do nothing
I dont want Johnson to go now. I want him to limp on wounded a d dig a bigger hole. If he leaves now we risk the scenario ernie describes
I dont want Johnson to go now. I want him to limp on wounded a d dig a bigger hole. If he leaves now we risk the sce ario ernie describes
That depends how much of the Tories current support is down to 'the Johnson factor'
His polling is still relatively hi considering the sheer number of scandals and lies of his that have been exposed
BlackRock and Vanguard.
I read Matt Levine's newsletter and he occasionally muses about the growth of these firms. His take is pretty much the exact opposite of yours though. The pandemic has been hugely expensive and damaging so if they were exerting significant influence on the companies they hold it would more likely be the other way round. The profit made by pharma companies from the vaccine is dwarfed by the losses elsewhere so it would be in their interests to lean on the pharma companies to give it away for free.
Nis polling is starting to skid now, and he's looking like a liability , plus the new plan B has robbed him of the support of a group of his own team... That is what will finish him rather than the damage his greediness and incompetence has caused
I’m torn. I don’t want Johnson to go, and a more competent replacement win another 5 years. But we desperately need some leadership NOW!
Any new leader will get a boost in the polls - same as any government in a crisis gets a boost
We need Johnson to hang on grimly damaging the party with infighting and acrimony, chickens come home to roost and then to lose badly the next election.
My question in all of this is simply who leaked the practice press conference footage? I mean is it normal practice to hang on to footage of practise press conferences? For a year and then wait until a good week into a story not quite dying to release it?
The phrase is apparently "cut through" the Boris Bubble understand that it's one thing to get the press and Westminster in a flap, but if the dirty proles who's votes they might want start noticing what a shitbag he is, then it's a problem.
So he's had to throw one of the entourage under a bus, I'm sure her sacrifice to the project won't be forgotten, delivering that doorstep statement through her sniffles, and falling on the sword her boss had clearly just propped up for her probably marks her our as "reliable" under such circumstances. If there was no "quid-pro-quo" she'd be furiously dishing out her own leaks no doubt...
From here on though Boris is in uncharted territory, I don't think the press or the sweaty masses are biting, he's either going to have to offer a bigger (ministerial?) sacrifice or settle in for a rough couple of weeks...
Why is she the only one who has gone? What about the bloke she was joking with?
Anyone else noticed Johnson is going bald? Another couple of years and he will no longer be able to do his trademark "hairstyle" That will amuse me
Anyone else noticed Johnson is going bald? Another couple of years and he will no longer be able to do his trademark “hairstyle”
He is well into combover territory now.
My question in all of this is simply who leaked the practice press conference footage? I mean is it normal practice to hang on to footage of practise press conferences? For a year and then wait until a good week into a story not quite dying to release it?
Genuinely think its a Tory thing - I'm convinced that wild Peppa Pig was a deliberate ploy as Starmer was talking at the same conference and would no doubt be sounding better than Doris, but no news broadcaster was going to run with Starmer after that.
This one is Doris throwing her under the £350m bus, no doubt about it.
Why is she the only one who has gone? What about the bloke she was joking with?
You don't use all your sacrificial lambs in one go
You don’t use all your sacrificial lambs in one go
She also had the disadvantage of not really having a job after the Johnson presidental daily addresses were abandoned. The cop26 spokesperson bounced along for a while but she didnt really seem interested in it.
I must admit as much as i understood Boris's shortcomings and plain dishonesty he has exceeded even my low expectations.
If his office has been told there was no party and Boris has taken that at face value and repeated the same, you have to start speculation that Boris is either not in the loop on lots of stuff or is being continually "set up"
Either way all the evidence states he is not in charge and certainly not in control. The vitriol from his own backbenchers is something to behold
Anyone else noticed Johnson is going bald?
No I hadn't, I find his hair attracts remarkably little interest to me, has he developed a bald patch then? Surprising if he has as his father appears to have plenty of hair.
I'm not sure that it would be disadvantageous to him though. Surely it would enhance his image if Bojo the Clown had a large bald patch surrounded by long blonde hair?
For a year and then wait until a good week into a story not quite dying to release it?
The journalist said they’d had it for a while, but it was only once Johnson and his ministers were repeating the falsehood that there “was no party” that it became a clear public interest news story.
BBC Radio4 : The Media Show : How The Mirror and ITV News uncovered the political story of the year.
So there must be some pics/video from at least one of these events
with johnson throwing everyone he can under the bus someone will end up dishing the dirt
https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1468673777215094787
matt_outandabout
Full MemberBoJo falling because of a Christmas party of fluffed speech is too low a crime for him to be recognised for. As a friend just tweeted – it is a bit like giving Harold Shipman a parking ticket.
Think of it as like getting Al Capone for fiddling his tax
Im not sure this is the dead cat he was looking for
@rutrider – new account today and straight into spouting bollocks. The question is: who were you posting as before?
I was wondering the same, there’s something oddly familiar about the syntax of his posts. I kind of have my suspicions, but not enough to speculate.
I’ve read a bit about ‘children’s health defense’ in a number of American news items via Flipboard, and they’re yet another bunch of extreme Right-wing nutters, feeding the vaxxer frenzy.
We’re not as bad yet, but unless the U.K. branch of the Qnut franchise is shut down, I can see us getting ever closer to how America is now.
Which is a terrifying thought.
Ernie - I'm just shallow 🙂 It would amuse me to see him lose that floppy haired buffoon image. Hard to keep it going when you are a slaphead
Daily Express: UK is greatest country! Truss displays leadership credentials as pressure on Boris builds.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1533463/Liz-Truss-news-uk-greatest-country-boris-Johnson-Christmas-party
The Foreign Secretary displayed her leadership credentials during a patriotic address at the Chatham House policy institute.
When do we start calling her Liz?
At this point, if a major tory player isn't setting up their leadership bid, you know they were at the party
Lol, good point northwind👍
The thing with Truss is, she might be popular with the Tory faithful but she doesn't come across well to a wider audience.
At all.
She'll desperately try to mimic Thatcher too, which will simply amplify how utterly mediocre she really is.
Utterly awful in front of a camera too, speechifying. Cringe worthy.
I feel knifing Allegra might be a big mistake. She is establishment press & the hacks won’t like the way he has treated her.
UK is greatest country! Truss displays leadership credentials
That must be why all those people are trying to get here from France.
Normally failing grayling responds to my moans within hours saying how wonderful everything really is. 24 hours and nothing, he must be waiting to see how much shit sticks.
^^ Wonder if he was invited?
I mean, he'd have been standing in the kitchen by himself but still...
I feel knifing Allegra might be a big mistake. She is establishment press & the hacks won’t like the way he has treated her.
At this point I remain unconvinced that she was knifed, but if that is indeed the case and she needs to be avenged then as long as there is some truth in the allegations, that Johnson personally knew and approved of Downing Street lockdown parties, then that should be relatively easy to do.
For that reason I doubt that she has anything that could seriously damage Johnson, probably because johnson didn't know and approve of lockdown violations, or at the very least that he 'knifed her'.
I'm sure that the lesson learnt from damage inflicted by Cummings isn't lost on Johnson, even if some people want to dismiss him as some sort of halfwit.
As someone who tends not to look at Johnson from a perspective of deep, almost pathological, hatred, I would be personally surprised if he had knowingly approved of lockdown breaching parties.
Partly because I don't think he is such a party animal that despite the obvious huge political damage it would with complete certainty cause him, that he would find it irresistible to hold a party in Downing Street. The possibility of getting found out, in any scenario, would be absolutely massive. It also seems unfeasible to me that Johnson cares so much about his staff that he would want them to have a jolly when the rest of the country was in lockdown.
Having said that I have to admit that my knowledge of the allegations that have been made is pretty limited, I'm really not that hugely bothered whether an alleged party occurred. Which is probably quite a widespread attitude among many people. There are so many more important issues. Including many that Johnson needs to be held in account for. This is almost a useful distraction, especially if it turns out to be untrue.
I feel knifing Allegra might be a big mistake. She is establishment press & the hacks won’t like the way he has treated her.
I don't know, she tried putting some rather Rightwing spin on stories while at the Beeb.
Jumping the fence to take a job with a charlatan like Johnson won't have endeared her, she's no right to expect any special treatment from the press.
There are so many more important issues. Including many that Johnson needs to be held in account for. This is almost a useful distraction, especially if it turns out to be untrue.
Like this :
iNews: What is the Nationality and Borders Bill? Priti Patel’s immigration plan explained and why it’s co.
https://inews.co.uk/news/nationality-and-borders-bill-what-priti-patel-immigration-plan-explained-1341687
As a Scottish independence supporter I would prefer Boris to stay. However if he goes may we please have the poundshop Thatcher impersonator Liz?
Ernie - you cannot have it both ways! Either he is as clever as you seen to think thus he must have known (even if after the fact) and is lying or if he didn't know he is even dimer than I think. Lying or incompetence are the only two answers
Also as a student of politics you must know that its often the trivia that gets them. With politicians its what catches the public mood. This is something most folk can relate to and its surrounded with such clear lies that cannot be spun away
The thing with Truss is, she might be popular with the Tory faithful but she doesn’t come across well to a wider audience
The main thing with Liz is the fact that she’s truly as thick as mince. When you see her interviewed, as she’s asked a question, there’s always a second or two’s delay as the cogs start to slowly grind into motion between her ears.
The idea of her being in charge of anything more important than doing the odd Maggie impersonation is terrifying
Being dim doesn't seem limit to being in power.
As long as you can contort words you're golden.
The possibility of getting found out, in any scenario, would be absolutely massive.
Well, you've certainly got your finger on the pulse, eh ernie? I wonder whether this might be the reason the media might be keen on the story? Makes you think.
