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The Government followed by the pharmaceutical industry are by far the biggest advertisers with UK media.

What advertising do they buy on the BBC?


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 5:47 pm
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As much as I despise BoJo if he does go then he's just going be replaced by some Tory tosser that's a bit more astute when it comes to political games - they're not going to be any better for the country, so hard cause to celebrate 🙁


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 5:54 pm
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You are unbelievably naive if you think the likes of the Guardian are much different. Check out who the big philanthropic funders of the Guardian are and you can see that they are far from un-bias.

No-one mentioned the Guardian except you.

The Torygraph is still a poisonous sh*trag, regardless of what other papers are or aren't. I'm not 100% sure how advertising from big pharma and goverment factor into your point, but that's probably because I took the blue pill instead of the red one or something 😀


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 5:54 pm
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You are unbelievably naive if you think the likes of the Guardian are much different

Actually they are. The Guardian does a much better job separating news from opinions than the Daily Telegraph does.

And so does the BBC btw, since you chose to mention them.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 5:59 pm
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The Government followed by the pharmaceutical industry are by far the biggest advertisers with UK media.

The government has indeed grown its advertising spend (Brexit + Covid) in recent years. Where does the pharmaceutical claim come from? I’d imagine consumer goods, retail and food dwarf drug advertising in the UK.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:03 pm
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https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1468626516540104707

will he or wont he?


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:09 pm
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^^ He'll be late for it either way.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:13 pm
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will he or wont he?

cheese or wine or both ?


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:13 pm
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As much as I despise BoJo if he does go then he’s just going be replaced by some Tory tosser .....

Well until recently that tosser appeared to be Sunak but apparently the new darling of Tory activists now is Liz Truss.

She is seen by many to be more determined than Sunak in returning the Tories to full-blown thatcherism.

If Sunak became leader I could see him having the commonsense of calling an early general election and guaranteeing himself a minimum of 5 years.

Labour aren't offering any real alternative to the Tories and at the very best are level pegging with them in the polls. With Johnson out of the way Sunak could argue that the Tories were under new management, Labour were not to be trusted, and that he needed a mandate.

It is reasonable to assume that Sunak would win a comfortable majority to embark in 5 years of tax cuts and austerity.

I'm not sure what Truss would do. Although I have no doubt that she would be determined to put the 'great' back in Great Britain, just like Thatcher did, so I am told.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:15 pm
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People need to check out who owns what to understand the bigger picture. I despise Boris and his chums as much as the next man, but please wake up to the world around you. The majority of the media is ultimately owned and controlled by a few very large investment firms. The same firms coincidentally that are some of the largest shareholders in the vaccine manufacturers:

Here you go

Take one group of newspapers, Reach Plc. It's brands include the Daily Mirror, Sunday Mirror, Daily Express, Sunday Express, Daily Star, Sunday Star, Sunday People, Daily Record and Sunday Mail. Its regional footprint includes the Manchester Evening News, Liverpool Echo, Birmingham Mail and Bristol Post. In Ireland, the Company is a publisher of national and regional news brands with a portfolio that includes the Irish Daily Star, Northern Irish and Irish editions of the Daily and Sunday Mirror newspapers, the Sunday People newspaper.

So who owns Reach Plc? The biggest shareholders are listed here:

Reach shareholders

The biggest shareholders are all investment funds, who ultimately are owned by other investment funds who are ultimately all owned by the funds at the top of the tree, BlackRock and Vanguard. There was a good video explaining all of this somewhere but I can't remember where I found it.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:20 pm
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The same firms coincidentally that are some of the largest shareholders in the vaccine manufacturers:

Lemme guess, they own all the tinfoil-hat manufacturing facilities as well??! 🤯

If you want to complain about conglomeration and corporate control of the media then preach, brother. It's when you start turning that into a wacky conspiracy theory that you can get in the sea.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:23 pm
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What’s the conspiracy? That pharmaceutical companies have resisted having their vaccines produced in large enough numbers, and low enough cost, for worldwide use? And that they’ve used their investments in media groups to pressure governments into letting them restrict supply and retain closed patents?


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:28 pm
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ultimately all owned by the funds at the top of the tree, BlackRock and Vanguard

Who undoubtably hold the shares in the form of their index trackers on behalf of tens of millions investors in the shape of pensions and ISA's.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:28 pm
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The majority of the media is ultimately owned and controlled by a few very large investment firms. The same firms coincidentally that are some of the largest shareholders in the vaccine manufacturers

It sounds as if they might all be working together, you could call it a conspiracy in fact......to establish a new world order?

I'm so glad you joined stw today to warn us rutrider.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:28 pm
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It sounds as if they might all be working together, you could call it a conspiracy in fact……to establish a new world order?

I’m so glad you joined stw today to warn us rutrider.

Please open your eyes, look at the link I posted and don't shoot the messenger.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:30 pm
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Johnson's got a week b4 north Shropshire byelection

I think there's a real possibility he could lose it now

Polls due out at 6pm tonight

Stratton was a bad hire by Johnson, but the perception of throwing her under the bus not the smartest


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:30 pm
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extract from your whack doodle "news" paper.

BlackRock and Vanguard form a secret monopoly that own just about everything else you can think of too. In all, they have ownership in 1,600 American firms, which in 2015 had combined revenues of $9.1 trillion. When you add in the third-largest global owner, State Street, their combined ownership encompasses nearly 90% of all S&P 500 firms.

Yup, global index funds companies hold big share holdings of all traded companies. That is precisely what they do.

Only It's not a CEO of Vanguard et al who personally owns the shares, its billions of us Little People who hold the shares through our pensions.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:32 pm
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Please open your eyes

Makes you think.

Stratton was a bad hire by Johnson, but the perception of throwing her under the bus not the smartest

And what exactly has she lost her job for? Making reference to a party that, a year later, her boss repeatedly said didn’t happen?


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:34 pm
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@rutrider - new account today and straight into spouting bollocks. The question is: who were you posting as before?


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:34 pm
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Please open your eyes, look at the link I posted and don’t shoot the messenger.

Your links to a US anti-vax site?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense

A bit transparent. Shouldn't you make, I dunno, five or six posts of something reasonably coherent to lure people in before getting into spinning eyeballs territory?


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:48 pm
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Please open your eyes, look at the link I posted and don’t shoot the messenger.

I did look at the link rutrider. I noticed you linked to an article by "children's health defense", an organisation which campaigns against the fluoridation of water. Which is of course such a worthy cause.

After all, a foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:48 pm
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A Tory backbencher now on sky news saying he can’t continue if he’s lied to parliament. He’s finished. Gone by Christmas?

Mods can you reopen the Liz Truss thread? I think we'll be needing it soon. 😄


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:51 pm
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After all, a foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works

Finally - someone talking sense!


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:51 pm
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Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:55 pm
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Gone by 6.05pm hopefully.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:56 pm
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rutrider, you've used at least a few conspiracy catchphrases that immediately makes me move to the next post.

I'm curious though, why the need to "convert us"?

There is no hidden conspiracy, the fraud, lies and corruption are plain to see these days. They don't bother hiding it in any real way.

Ironically, the noise generated by yourself and others generates any smoke screen they might need.😐


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:57 pm
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There is no hidden conspiracy, the fraud, litres and corruption are plain to see these days. They don’t bother hiding it. Ironically, the noise generated by yourself and others generates any smoke screen they might need.

Fair point


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:59 pm
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Recent history suggests he’ll be replaced by someone worse, but I’m not sure that’s possible this time

Hi!


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:59 pm
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Aw give da rutrider a break (not a brake - he apparently has little interest in push bikes), not only has he posted on Blojo but he also share some thoughts on the anti-mask anger thread too!


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 6:59 pm
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1/3rd of the country still clinging on to Tories 😳

https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1468640320074223616?t=VqyO-IeEjDuYQTpFDPzwVg&s=19


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:02 pm
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He’s late for his own press conference

As usual


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:05 pm
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A Tory backbencher now on sky news saying he can’t continue if he’s lied to parliament

He does it on a weekly basis doesn't he ?
Why would this time be any different ?


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:07 pm
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I see Allegra Stratton has been made to fall on Boris Johnson's sword. He's work his way through everyone who was there minus a few important figures or those he wishes favours off later, rather than go himself.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:10 pm
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An incredibly confusing Plan B it is!


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:12 pm
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Whitty blew his opportunity to call that geezer a duplicitous toad. Bottled it mate.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:14 pm
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Go to work, but don’t go to work

Go to the pub, but don’t go to the pub

Etc, etc…

Standard


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:15 pm
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Whitty is too professional. We should say No Plan B until Boris fesses up about the party. Oh yeh, 'I was told it was within the rules' is not an answer matey.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:21 pm
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I see Allegra Stratton has been made to fall on Boris Johnson’s sword.

It is probably the fact she refused to do it, that got her the boot.

He really is a dick, good to see Laura Kuennsberg put the boot in over the xmas party.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:23 pm
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bwabababwbwbwbabababwwbwaaab.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:24 pm
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Waffle waffle waffle


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:25 pm
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"The British public can see the importance of the message coming from the science" (paraphrased) You ****ing ****!


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:26 pm
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He really doesn't get it does he? What the actual **** is he waffling on about - the public is really angry and he goes on for 5 minute about Allegra and 30 seconds not answering Laura's question.


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:26 pm
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FFS. Just say, we were a bunch of ****in idiots. The longer you shuffle around it....


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:28 pm
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ITV brought up the 3 party's at least. I suspect many watching this don't even know about the other (alleged) party's that took place!

Gah! Is it parties or party's.😉


 
Posted : 08/12/2021 7:29 pm
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Massive crocodile tears from dear allegra. Must be a lot of onions just cut behind that door


 
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