I think for girls clothing sizes should be... from biggest to smallest 🙂
Your mum/auntie
Your mate
You.... On a good day
After a 6 month diet
Victoria beckham and alexa Chung only...
So when you buy something and it looks big on you, you can say "its my mums, or its my mates"
I know, no need to thank me
Wahoo, my BMI is actually 33, down 1 point. Puts me as a Tongan, which in rugby player terms is probably a fair position in terms of body shape, limb girth and torso shape. 😆
I'm 28 ish on normal calculations. Which is I think a touch harsh. I should be light but people who know me think I'm thin
On the height corrected one I'm 25.1 which seems more realistic. It seems obvious to me that squaring the height is unfair to tall people
I was at least 10kg lighter in my early teens high I think that put me at the other end of the healthy BMI range
On the right is Robert Forsterman - Track sprinter.
I'm 32, 188cm and 75Kg (and about 9% BF when last measured) gives me a BMI of 21.
30" waist and reasonable upper body strength, I should be a better climber than I am :/
45 years old
BMI 24
Read it and weep you fat bastards.
37 years
1.8m, 72kg
BMI = 22
"New" BMI = 21
I could still loose some fat from around my stomach, but I like food too much.
37 years
1.72m
78kg
BMI = 26
I think slightly overweight is fair. I know I need to shed 5-6kg. But beer, curry and crisps are great!
40, BMI of 26 which is down from 31 in January. As for clothing sizes well the 32" jeans I bought at the weekend are actually 34" in circumference and I bought a small shirt that fits which is frankly ridiculous!
100! (Not my BMI!)
I'm also BMI of 28. 6'2, ~100kg.
BTW I'll eat my hat if Forstemann is hormonally normal.
His thighs were measured at 34 inches around.
19 in my skinny student days (30" jeans)
28 at my weight training peak (38" jeans)
28 (again) in my sans exercise wilderness days (36" jeans)
22 now with my cycling obsession (32" jeans)
BMI is a silly measure. How can you take something seriously that doesn't work for anyone on the taller or more muscular end of the spectrum? The comments on turning fat into muscle are as ill informed as those who think that muscle turns to fat when you stop exercising - it's a physiological impossibility. I'm actually heavier since I got back into mountain biking because I'm stronger but I'm far fitter despite being almost overweight according to BMI...
How can you take something seriously that doesn't work for anyone on the taller or more muscular end of the spectrum?
Because the vast majority of people aren't really tall or really athletic?
I think my BF is lower now (based on observations and clothes) than it has been in the past when I've been lighter. But I'm a more powerful rider now than I was then.
22.5 - 188cm & 79.5kg.
I could probably lose some extra wobbly bit around my waist, but bulk up in my top half. I don't actually want to weigh any less than where I am, just replace a bit of fat with some core/upper body muscle.
I'm nearly in the middle of the normal. That's fine by me!
Because the vast majority of people aren't really tall or really athletic?
I didn't say really tall or really athletic, I said tall or muscular. I'm 5'10.5" and I'd say not that much broader of shoulder than average and am more often called skinny than fat and my BMI is 24. Lift a few weights and I easily go over the 'healthy' limit and if I was an inch or two taller and the same build there's no way I'd be within the 18-25 range.
I didn't say really tall or really athletic, I said tall or muscular
The point still stands. BMI is a very good and simple guide for the majority of the population. That's why it's used. I thinks it was on here that someone said that somewhere there will be a venn diagram of "people who say BMI is crap" and "people for whom BMI is crap" and there won't be a lot of crossover!
because the majority of the UK have no idea what skinny or fat looks like any more. Apparently 81% of women my age are bigger than me. I'm a 39 year old size 10.am more often called skinny than fat
I have never had wobbly bits, incidentally, or anything hanging over my belt.
I thinks it was on here that someone said that somewhere there will be a venn diagram of "people who say BMI is crap" and "people for whom BMI is crap" and there won't be a lot of crossover!
Aw thank you, my legacy here is complete 🙂
22.49 on the height adjusted one.
Easily within the healthy range but my wife says I look like a scarecrow and my mother (bless 'er) says I look like someone from a WW2 Prison Camp!'You look just like so and so when he came back to the village after the war' style.
I think that the BMI not working for really muscly is fine. Its a tool that could never cover that. Its not weight corrected for build or proportion of fat
But to me it is completely unacceptable that BMI doesn't correct for height properly. BMI is a one trick pony. Its your weight corrected for height. If it can't do that properly then there is no point in it existing
In the past five years I’ve been as high as 85kg and was definitely a fatty and as low as 59kg.
I’m currently 21.7 (176cm x 67.5kg) bang in the middle of healthy, but I have a bit of a tummy and could easily lose a few kgs. As above I look a little POW but 60-63kg feels about right for me, especially on the bike.
As per my posts above, I come under the obese section of the scale, I personally think (and i know i may say different if i was one of the "skinnies") that the whole BMI thing is just far to much of a generalisation. It is saying you are x weight therefore you are considered "normal" or "obese" and whilst weight is one indicator of health, it is not the only indicator of health.
I participate in exercise most days, have pushed my body on 22 hour long rides, run mountain marathons, played rugby at a very high level, but no getting away from it i am "obese" on the scale, yet recent health check up showed i am healthy when you consider actual tests run by a doctor, not just a sliding scale.
Yet, one of my oldest friends idea of healthy food is salad in his burger, he starts drinking most days at about 10-11am, smokes enough skunk weed that he is part chimney and yet BMI states he is "healthy".
What if we both did a job where they took BMI as a consideration as whether or not you are actually healthy and whether you should be considered for the job?
[i]You have a lower BMI than 91% of males aged 45-59 in your country [/i]
23 on the bbc thingy.
What if we both did a job where they took BMI as a consideration as whether or not you are actually healthy and whether you should be considered for the job?
There is a much more common example. Life Insurance.
If you're BMI is above normal, you get an increased premium.
I’ve been as high as 85kg and was definitely a fatty
Interesting. I'm 2cm taller than you, and even at 94kg people didn't think of me as fat and were surprised when I said I was trying to lose weight. I was not at all fat looking, until I would take off my shirt and you could see I didn't look that healthy.
Still, not much wobbly fat though even then.
25 BMI @ 175cm. 76.5kg
Realistic? who knows, probably good as a guide which I guess is what BMI is all about.
Could probably lose a few pounds of insulation but I'm relatively fit, ride ~100miles a week normally, race regularly and I'm happy enough like this. 🙂
179cm, 81.7kg, shade over 26 on the scale. I definitely could do with losing a bit of weight, but am probably as fit as I've ever been...
I guess that means: Good News, you've put on muscle; Bad News, you need to lose some fat 😀
[quote=WackoAK ]I really think that perceptions of normal have shifted
I've recently noticed that I now have to buy medium clothing in almost everything whereas previously it was large..
Strangely enough I actually found the opposite - when I recently bought a shirt I needed a medium when I tried the small first as usual. The small didn't fit me round the shoulders rather than the waist - despite being a serious kayaker for 25+ years not a problem I've had before (though my current programme of higher intensity stuff and weights along with rock climbing might mean I've bulked up more). Is it also that normal people are more scrawny?
[quote=scud ]I participate in exercise most days, have pushed my body on 22 hour long rides, run mountain marathons, played rugby at a very high level, but no getting away from it i am "obese" on the scale, yet recent health check up showed i am healthy when you consider actual tests run by a doctor, not just a sliding scale.
Yet, one of my oldest friends idea of healthy food is salad in his burger, he starts drinking most days at about 10-11am, smokes enough skunk weed that he is part chimney and yet BMI states he is "healthy".
What if we both did a job where they took BMI as a consideration as whether or not you are actually healthy and whether you should be considered for the job?
You seem to be confusing being healthy with being overweight. Clearly fat levels are an indicator of health, but not the only one, and if you are officially obese then unless you're carrying the sort of muscle shown in some of the pics above the chances are you could be more healthy if you lost a bit of weight. Fortunately I don't think any jobs (or indeed anybody apart from ignorant GPs) do use BMI in that blunt a manner.
I'm 2cm taller than you, and even at 94kg people didn't think of me as fat
I didn't really carry it well there was just a thick layer of extra Huw with the figure of Michael Rasmussen underneath.
Fat calipers are cheap as chips though - I may buy some.
What - the calipers or the chips..? 'cos there may lie the problem... 😉
DrP
You seem to be confusing being healthy with being overweight.
He's not.. it's everyone else that does.
20 @ 180cm and 65kg
It's about right, always been "athletic" still says I can drop to 60kg and still be healthy not convinced about that tbh
21.8, slightly lower than about a year ago, but not as low as I'd hoped.
( 5'8 & 63.8kg)
My BMI = 21 (183cm, 68kg), aged 33. Like lots of people my age though, there is a modest but persistent little belly - with me since my early 20s.
Most like a man from the Democratic Republic of Congo!
180cm and 85kg puts in a better place than 70% of my age group but I think that reflect more on my peers than it does me and It took fifty years to look this good.
42yr old, 1.77m tall, max weight 68kg gives 22 and Zimbabwe. You can see my ribs on my sides and I have a hint of a six pack in the right light (and without breathing in!) and most of my cycle kit is small, so god knows how you guys with a BMI of 20 think you can afford to healthily lose weight?
BMI is a clumsy tool, and for its intended function - to highlight that populations are getting heavier/fatter - causes as much confusion as it does help. Its amazing how many "steve redgrave would be obese" comments you get from people who havent used years of athletic training to increase their body mass, so it ends up being counter productive by being so open to ridicule.
BMI is a clumsy tool, and for its intended function - to highlight that populations are getting heavier/fatter - causes as much confusion as it does help
Exactly its not really fit for purpose. bBecause BMI rising in a population could an increase in average height
Its amazing how many "steve redgrave would be obese" comments you get from people who havent used years of athletic training to increase their body mass, so it ends up being counter productive by being so open to ridicule.
Sadly he is now 125 kg and out of training I think we can conclude he is no longer an example of high BMI healthy weight
But of course diabetes doesn't help
19 should be about 18.5 but been off the bike and put about 3kg on round the middle.
Technically borderline undernourished but I eat more than most people.
[quote=ampthill ]Sadly he is now 125 kg and out of training I think we can conclude he is no longer an example of high BMI healthy weight
But of course diabetes doesn't help
No disrespect to a knight of the realm, but he is a genuine fat biffer nowadays!
BMI is a rough tool for the average build if you are a slight or stocky build it it useless.
170cm tall average man has a 36-38" chest and 30" waist (wetsuit sizing)
If you have a bigger chest ie 44" and corresponding waist you come up as over weight and visa versa if a slight build but for the average its ok
Its a load of bollox. They did a BMI on a 6' 7" Olympic rower and deemed him clinically obese.

