I've got a six pack though
Most folk here have a barrel ..... who is laughing now eh
Just checked only way I could get my BMI down that low is to remove a limb 😉
Probably around 24, though I haven't weighed myself for a while.
I'm 5'6", I buy 32 inch jeans and can comfortable shove both hands down the front, or one up to the elbow.
But I've been told not to.
[quote=cyve ]You have a higher risk of health problems if your waist size is:
more than 94cm (37 inches) if you're a man
Wow - I need never worry about health issues due to my weight then, as even when I've felt fat I've been nowhere near that (34" waist at max). Though I'm less than convinced by the lack of scaling with that single measure - surely somebody 6'6" should have a larger waist than somebody 5'2"?
It's not a hard test though - is my BMI >25? Am I an athlete? If I wear my trousers on my hips does my stomach overhang them?If the answers are Yes, No, Yes then you're at higher risk.
Yes, Yes, No. I'm OK then?
[quote=theotherjonv ]The explanation http://people.maths.ox.ac.uk/trefethen/bmi.html is interesting, particularly wrt the impact of muscle vs fat.
Though as molgrips alludes, and the point missing there, muscle shouldn't really be included in BMI calculations at all if you're trying to determine whether somebody is healthy (if anything it could actually be used in the opposite sense). Hence if somebody loses 5kg of fat, but gains 5kg of muscle their BMI stays the same, but their health improves. The density of fat vs. muscle is a red herring - it's the fact that muscle is included as part of your weight when making this measure which causes the problems.
As an anecdote, since when I decided I really needed to lose some weight a few months ago, my actual weight on the scales has hardly changed, but my waist size has decreased and my t-shirts have gone from being tight around the stomach to being tight around the shoulders. I don't think the fact my density has hardly changed is really all that relevant!
5'7" and 11½st = 25bmi am overweight apparently, but I would doubt anyone would agree. And why on the NHS calc can you only tick up to "moderate" exercise?
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I've struggled a little with the notion that at a BMI of 26, I am still 'overweight', despite having lost 26kg (OK so last January my BMI was 33.5 putting in a pretty risky group).
I think I am as 'fit' as I've ever been allowing for the fact that my previous period of fitness was in my 20s and with the best will in the world, there will be certain things I won't ever be able to match.
I'm climbing at somewhere between 900 and 1200 VAM now and am able to generate sustained periods of around 270 watts so I feel pretty good about how fit I am.
But, and there really is no getting away from this, I still have excess body fat. I only have to look in a mirror to see that I could still readily loose the four kilos I need to get to a normal BMI.
What's also uncomfortable is that I recently saw a report of all the average BMI for all the teams in the TDF and not one of them was above 22 (the SD was not published so there maybe some individuals that are at or above 25).
My problem is losing the last four kilos. I've been doing 350km a week since April and while the last six kilos have come off pretty readily, I seem to be stuck at 84kg as a low point and from there it very easily goes up to 85.5kg if I have a slightly indulgent weekend.
I'm not saying I can't lose it, I just don't know how to do it.
i might win this... mine is 33, 5'11" and 105kg, i could lose a few pounds but have 35" waist, ex semi-pro rugby and paratrooper and capable of cycling 250 miles in a day, so does that mean i'm going to die next week??
aracer - couldn't agree more. I've recently had a pie amnesty which has resulted in me losing 9 lbs in a few weeks. To my mind I don't think I look a bit different. Still as 'cuddley' as ever. But I can tell when putting certain item of clothing on that there's been a marked decrease in my ample girth
Hence if somebody loses 5kg of fat, but gains 5kg of muscle their BMI stays the same, but their health improves.
Yes, true, and that's why martin johnson / Chris Hoy are obese. the point made was about muscle [u]weighing more than[/u] fat and it doesn't substantially. As per the example, if you converted 10% of your body [u]volume[/u] from fat to muscle, your BMI would change by less than 2%
And ultimately hence why to true indicators have to be a mix of total weight plus fat %, and as fat % scales are unreliable and most don't have access to caliper testing (or would be unwilling to succumb to it) then the best measure is either 'do i have a fold over the top of my jeans' or 'when i jump up and down naked in the mirror, how much jiggles'
BMI of 27 and apparently I am most like men from Libya!!
The NHS website reckons that my healthy weight range is 52.2 - 70.8kg.
I have been trying (somewhat sporadically) to get down to 70kg (from about 75), thinking that would be the lowest weight I would want to get down to.
But I could still lose another 18kg and still be 'healthy'!! Well, that ain't gonna happen. Even when I was a scrawny rake runner at school, I weighed more than 52.2kg!
i might win this... mine is 33, 5'11" and 105kg, i could lose a few pounds but have 35" waist, ex semi-pro rugby and paratrooper and capable of cycling 250 miles in a day, so does that mean i'm going to die next week??
Myostatin deficient for sure!
24.6 here, 6'2", 13st9 ish
Was up to 26+ last year, did some 5:2 diet together with some just being sensible to peg it back, feel better for it. I was feeling tight in 36" trousers, now back in 34" where I have been most of my adult life. Ride or gym regular and feel much better for kicking the pounds off, might try and drop a few more.
Fat calipers are cheap as chips though - I may buy some.
Hora bearing in mind i am 6ft 1 and 78kg - i wear 34 jeans and large tshirts, are you sure? I suppose tshirts have a large amount of streeeeetch as do the sweat pants you wear, do you have elastic in the waist of your jeans?
22 for me and according to the link:
[i]You're most like someone from ****stan[/i]
And if I add 22.5kg (to my 80kg) I get to average BMI for the UK...
My BMI is about 25.5
I think it's fair - I'm carrying a bit of fat and think I have an average build - neither particularly skinny or stocky.
Remember that BMI is not gender differentiated.
So the 18-25 'normal' range is for both.
A 'normal' male would probably hit about 23 and a 'female' about 20.
If a woman has a BMI of 25.5 (same as me), she'll be significantly fatter.
[quote=theotherjonv ]the point made was about muscle weighing more than fat and it doesn't substantially. As per the example, if you converted 10% of your body volume from fat to muscle, your BMI would change by less than 2%
Which is a complete irrelevance. The link you gave says "What about the density of muscle vs. fat? We hear about this frequently in discussions of BMI (including in the Economist article I was responding to, which mentioned Olympic weight lifters)" I don't believe that at all - I've never heard anybody mention density in such discussions. We talk all the time about muscle affecting the calculations, but not in the context of it affecting density - he is completely missing the point.
i might win this... mine is 33, 5'11" and 105kg, i could lose a few pounds but have 35" waist, ex semi-pro rugby and paratrooper and capable of cycling 250 miles in a day, so does that mean i'm going to die next week??Myostatin deficient for sure!
I find it really difficult, last year in readiness for 250 Manchester - London ride, i was riding 100 miles every sunday, 67 miles commute on a tuesday plus 3-4 sessions in the gym doing interval work on bike and rower, felt as fit a fiddle and was capabale of keeping up with much skinnier friends and that was getting down to 99kg, for me it doesn't matter how much I cycle or diet, 20 years as a rubgy prop-forward means i am square in shape and will always struggle to find lycra that doesn't make me look like a bag of walnuts stuffed into a condom!
So personally, i don't go much on BMI, I have regular health checks and would be much more worried if blood pressure started raising etc. I have friends who are in the "normal" percentile of the BMI scale, yet do no exercise, drink like fish and have a terrible diet.
Depends where you buy your clothes from, but a lot of stores have vanity sizing these days. Gap are def the worst for it, but debenhams and Next are both v generous with their sizes. And don't forget that EN 13402 ( the standards that clothes are supposed to be made to ) are still in range, so L could be 102 - 110 cm pretty massive difference in size
24 for me - 172cm & 72kg. That's on the border of overweight according to the BMI scale - healthy range is 54.7kg - 74.3kg apparently. I'd look like a Belsen escapee at 55kg 😐
Aren't all clothing sizes being changed to small, slightly less small, not quite so small, and extra non-petite, so as not to hurt anyones feelings, and reduce the chance of lawsuits for self-esteem issues?
I really think that perceptions of normal have shifted. I lost about 2st to get down to my BMI of 24 (14st) and my friends tell me I am looking thin. Another of my friends has a BMI of around 22, is a keen runner, and he is called gaunt.
We are both mid (actually late -gulp) 40s so are well under the average for our age group. That said I am by no means thin by any sensible objective measure and my friend just has a really athletic build.
Thinking back, fat people really were the exception when I was growing up and worthy of comment (then again I grew up in North Derbyshire so there wasn't much exciting to comment on). I have photos of me in my swimmers when I was about 14/15 - my BMI would have been about 20ish at 11ish stone and 6' 3". I am all lean muscle, but not extremely thin in my view.
23. I'm 5ft2 and 124 lbs, so that's about right, over where I like to be but not overweight. I am most like someone from Gambia.
I really think that perceptions of normal have shifted
^^^This +1000000
FWIW my BMI is 24 - 1.83m & 81.5kg.
I've recently noticed that I now have to buy medium clothing in almost everything whereas previously it was large..
I laugh when clothing manufacturers list a 32 inch waist as "small".
Aren't all clothing sizes being changed to small
Lidl cycling shorts started at medium which was 38-40 "
I would have needed to buy the womens but I decided against the pink ones
19.7
just for reference/ giggles ...
Chris Froomes bmi would be 20.75
Mine on the other hand ... a rather tubbier 26.1 🙁
I have no idea what mine is, but I look fabulous.
EDIT: Didn't realise you could google it; I genuinely thought forceps or something were involved to squeeze your fatty bits!
23.85
This man has a BMI of 24....
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I'd agree but then 34" jeans/trousers across all brands and tshirts in large max is hardly tubby. Must be down to the mythical heavy bones
I call bullshit on that 🙂 - try John Rocha & Next trousers, I need 36" to be comfy. Mind you every bit of fat I have is on my gut.
82Kg (last weighed a few weeks back), 174cm, = 27 - need to get to 76Kg to be normal apparently which sounds like bloody hard work. I was aiming for under 80, 78 as a stretch target.. 76 puts me in Armstrong territory, can't be good!
I think that is Greipel? If so he is 184 and 75 kg = 22 bmi
http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2013/us/riders/lotto-belisol/greipel-andre.html?xtmc=greipel&xtcr=1
I'm with you there scud, think my BMI is still around 34, 17 stone 10lbs 6' 01" ex rugby player . I wear my trousers round my substantial waist 38" ( brand dependant of course) and wear XXL t Shirts and detest skinny fit modern designed clothing as I am the wrong shape. At the age of 16 I had a 21.5" neck from propping but only weighed 12.5 stone and actually struggled to keep any weight on, I got to the age of about 21 and then found my size just grew massively. I peaked at my fattest at the age of about 28 when I hit 22 stone. Was very very fit playing three matches a week training every non match day I wasn't playing and cycling in to work too. I didn't remain that weight for long as I knew I was carrying too much fat so lost all I could.....culminating in LeJog in 2009 the pretty way averaging 100 plus miles a day. I was down to 16 and a half stone then but had a real battle keeping it down that low ( five years after being diagnosed type 2 diabetic at the age of 39). Since then try my hardest to keep healthy BP and diabetes stable but it ain't easy.....I would love in some ways to wind the click back and still be the 16 year old trying to keep my weight on but hey I can only do what my body will now allow me to do as a lot of the medications that I take have their own nasty side effects.
At least the docs no longer mention the words BMI!
BMI of 22 means I have a lower BMI than 94% of males aged 45-59 in the UK. To match the national average I'd have to put on an astonishing 19Kg (3 stone).
Carrying a bit of flab round the tummy I thought I could stand to [i]lose [/i]a few pounds.
I think that is Greipel?
82kg on the Lotto Belisol site.
Greipel is six foot and 75kgs? 😯
Then again, he does have rather pathetic thighs compared with some riders. He's the one on the left, in case you're wondering.
EDIT: 82kg I can believe.
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Mine, at 5,7 and 72kgs, just teeters into the normal range (24.8). Could probably lose a couple of kgs though.
BMI of 24.
I was like someone from Madagascar but I refreshed the screen using the same data and all of a sudden I'm like someone from China!
Must be down to the mythical heavy bones
It's not a myth - I read that MTBers have a 30% denser skeleton than other athletes due to the vibrations etc, but other athletes also have denser bones than sedentary people.
However how much actual weight that equates to I have no idea 🙂
I think that is Greipel?82kg on the Lotto Belisol site
Indeed he is - that is a pretty big difference to the TdF site!
48 with a BMI of 19.
"You have a lower BMI than 99% of males aged 45-59 in your country"
"You're most like someone from Bangladesh"
KOM material 😉
call bullshit on that - try John Rocha & Next trousers, I need 36" to be comfy. Mind you every bit of fat I have is on my gut.
I know what you mean and I know its standard in the ragtrade to 'flatter' customers.
My gut hangs over the waist band - well I say hang - it sticks out abit more than it should. But I still wear the same Diesel jeans from 10+yrs ago.
My DG pants, recent fatface cargo pants (quite nice), All saints jeans etc- are all listed as 34". Bet I'm closer to 35" but gut bigger.
What annoys me is road cycle shirt and lycra sizing. It seems to be ALL OVER the place.
My Le Coq top is XL - fits perfect. I had to go to XXXL on a Peaks council one.
47, bmi 24
bmi = 20. I've always been skinny, although I like to think of myself as athletic rather than malnourished...
At school we were doing body types and the teacher selected me out as a representation of an "ectomorph" body type. Thanks for that teach, that helped my confidence no end.
I cycle a lot, and can never sit still hence I also eat quite a lot. What p1sses me off was someone brought a cake into work the other day and after cycling in I scoffed 2 slices - which was commented on as "have another slice you look like you need it". Yeah maybe I better eat yours you fat fVcker*
*thought, but unfortunately not said.
My problem is losing the last four kilos. I've been doing 350km a week since April and while the last six kilos have come off pretty readily, I seem to be stuck at 84kg as a low point and from there it very easily goes up to 85.5kg if I have a slightly indulgent weekend.I'm not saying I can't lose it, I just don't know how to do it.
Lord knows I'm no expert but I reckon you need to mix it up a bit - some upper body weight training, maybe running or swimming.
For me, cycling just doesn't take weight off, unless I do lots and keep and extremely close eye on what I eat - running seems to work far more effectively, mainly because it suppresses my appetite when cycling makes me want to eat everything in the kitchen (as does swimming). More time efficient too.
My problem is losing the last four kilos
I'm going to drop to 92kg's. Protein powder, fasted rides and lots of veg.
46 and a BMI of 24.9.
I lost a couple of stones a few years back and my mother-in-law suggested I didn't lose anymore, as I'd look ill.
6'2"ish, 77kg, bmi 22, and i could do with losing a bit.
(apologies for mixing units, i blame thatcher)
i don't even know where Burkina Faso is...
