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Just won an item on Ebay. It's a good price, at the max level I put in.
But lookikng at the bidding, i seems i've been scammed. 24hrs before the end of the auction someone bid higher than me, i gave up on it as the one that got away. Then 12 hours before the end, the current winning bidder "changed their mind" and pulled out, 1 minute later a new bidder entered at 9p less than my max bid.
I'm not moaning about the price, i did make the bid after all. But it's really rubbing me up the wrong way.
So STWers, should i...
A. report seller, lose the item
b. buy the item, wait for delevery, leave good feedback, get good feedback
c. b followed by reporting them, once the item/feedback is in the bag.
someone bid higher than you, and pulled out. someone bid less than your max bid?
sorry but I don't see the issue here...
so you won, at a price you had bid, an Item you wanted..............
and your point caller?
Ebay bidder in 'i won an item I bid on' scandal
It depends, if you think that it's still a good buy then, pony up and don't worry about it.
is it too late to "change your mind" too ?
I'd go for that & wait for the second offer or whatever, then beat him down a bit
You set a 'maximum' price your prepared to pay, if your not prepared to pay that, you shouldn't have bid that much. Pay up.
Reading it again, I'd bet the after the top bidder pulled out, I think the next highest bidder after you would have only been a quid or so less anyway.
So you mean the seller used a second account to find out your max bid, then cancelled it and put a bid in just below yours - pushing your bid up to the maximum.
Sneaky, but you placed the bid so you must be willing to pay that mush...
if you think it was shill bidding, then report it and let ebay sort it out.
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/seller-shill-bidding.html
I think OP is saying that shill bidder account #1 outbid him to find out what his max was, then shill #2 pushed him right up to that max
(presumably it's already ended, rahter than you're just in the lead currently ? if the latter, I'd pull out, as I said)
Always bid your max at the last minute
Exactly retro83, I'm convinced it was shill bidding, seller using a seperate account to get my max bid.
I'm perfectly happy with the price, as I say, I made the bid.
I'm just thining, "should i do the right thing", which according to ebay t&c is to report it.
ps wow so many quick responses at this late hour. haven't you all got riding to do tomorrow!
aaah ok, i'm with you. bit cheeky yeah, and something ebay are cracking down on...
I can't sleep, got a massive ride tomorrow too!
something ebay are cracking down on...
you guys and your british sense of humour 😆
you guys and your british sense of humour
Ebay might not do anything about it but it seems the [url= http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/eBay-Paul-Barrett-Becomes-The-First-Person-In-UK-To-be-Prosecuted-For-Bidding-Against-Himself/Article/201007115659858?f=rss ]law is on your side.[/url]
Well may be next time you will do the sensible thing and snipe. 😉
Fair comment Sb, I've been using the old method of just entering max bid early on in the bidding and hoping for the best. DOH!
By using this process he managed to sell...a pie and pasty warmer
This made me giggle. What a criminal mastermind.
To those who see nothing wrong, do you think ebay should be more like a sealed tender auction then, as that's what this trick has turned it in to ?
So, MTG, would your advice be to go right to ebay and report the issue?
This is the moral question i was looking for a answer to.
bump for the morning crew...
Does seem a bit sneaky but as other have said above this should be your last non snipped bid - and as you got away with paying what you still think is a fair price not too much harm done. Until everyone has the sense to bid at the last minute, effectively reducing ebay to a sealed bid auction system, it will remain ripe for sneaky practice.
And the first two posters - a bit thick or just befuddled by the late hour of posting? It was not THAT hard to work out what the op was alluding to without having to have it spelled out for you so no real need for the sarky comments - this is stw though I guess!
UH - how much opinion do you need ?
you know what your options are
only you know how badly you want this thing
if seller isn't trustworthy, are you sure the item is good condition and not nicked?
the right thing (assuming you dislike this aspect of ebay) would be to grass him up ,esp if you look at the other accounts & see similar patterns in the past, but I doubt anything significant would come of it unless it's glaringly obvious
just make a decision
Ins't there a way of if not seeing the identity of the other bidder, then seeing what % of their bids are witht he particular seller.
If it's a very large %, then yes, you were sort of scammed.
I've been using the old method of just entering max bid early on in the bidding and hoping for the best.
Almost guaranteed to get you beaten up to your highest bid.
I sell a lot on eBay. People always put bids in, if they get the green tick they'll stop bidding. If the get the "outbid" statement they'll have another go with an extra quid, then another, then another. Then someone else takes over, tries their hand again and again. It'll hit (or get close) to your max bid very quickly.
Look at the other things the person has sold - has this mysterious late bidder tried his hand at many of them? I'd suggest you might have been unlucky but if they've had a go at a couple of things but not won them then I'd have a word with eBay.
You haven't just bought a
pair of black shoes size 5" heels
have you?
JulianA, no not shoes. lol.
I'm loathed to mention what the item was on here, because looking at the sellers history he is obviously a biker and may be lurking!!
Quite possibly yes.
There was someone who [s]used to post on classifieds here a lot under 2 old logins[/s] has re-registered under a third login, who not only sold stuff in the classidfieds from his own webshop as 'clearing a few bits and bobs out' 'need this stuff gone' etc, but also bidded on his own ebay items with a second ebay login. He won a few of his own auctions and left himself glowing feedback. 😆
Go on, post the item number and then the lynch mob can see if they know the seller! 😈
So, MTG, would your advice be to go right to ebay and report the issue?
I don't know. I don't use ebay enough to know exactly what the rules are, whether this guy has broken them, if you can prove it, and what ebay would do about it.
Until everyone has the sense to bid at the last minute, effectively reducing ebay to a sealed bid auction system, it will remain ripe for sneaky practice.
Not quite. In a sealed tender sale, the highest bidder pays their full bid, even if it's a lot more than the second highest bid.
These last second bidders only pay just enough to outbid the second highest bid.
You've convinced me though, anyway, that I should start using one.
Which one's best ?
Jujuuk68 - MemberIns't there a way of if not seeing the identity of the other bidder, then seeing what % of their bids are witht he particular seller.
If it's a very large %, then yes, you were sort of scammed.
Yes, you click on their name in the bidding history I think.
Do it.