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But all the small phones seem to be aimed at the low end of the market, cheap and nasty and underpowered.
How small we talking?
Apples persistence to not offer any kind of memory expansion is marketing genius but I can't believe people still go along with it!
The basic phone might be competitively priced, but paying an extra £80 for enough storage to make it useful stings a bit, especially when most android phones now support 128+gb memory cards.
The basic phone might be competitively priced, but paying an extra £80 for enough storage to make it useful stings a bit, especially when most android phones now support 128+gb memory cards.
But the alternative is having to use android, so I'll regrettably have to stump up...
But the alternative is having to use android,
*shudder*
Fab! I've said many times that the iPhone 6 - never mind the 6 Plus - is too big for one-handed use, so I think it's great news that Apple are making a smaller phone. I won't be buying one mind you 🙂
Haven't some Android phone now ditched the SD card and removable battery?
e.g. the [url= http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-5-1301322/review ]Note 5[/url] or the [url= http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s6-1285636/review ]S6[/url]
The prices seem just as daft too. The RRPs on the S6 are 32GB for £379, 64GB for £539 and 128GB for £599!!
How small we talking?
Nokia 6510? (Ie, the 8310 in a post-pubescent shell)
Dunno TBH. What have you got in mind? I'm half wondering whether my next phone needs to have a keypad again...
I might have agreed with you a few years back, but now with cloud storage/streaming music etc. I'm wondering why I got a 128Gb iPhone as I've only used about 20% of the space after about 4 months!Apples persistence to not offer any kind of memory expansion is marketing genius but I can't believe people still go along with it!
Just ordered a 16Gb SE for my mum, will be perfect for her. Great value too (IMO).
Apples persistence to not offer any kind of memory expansion is marketing genius but I can't believe people still go along with it!
The basic phone might be competitively priced, but paying an extra £80 for enough storage to make it useful stings a bit, especially when most android phones now support 128+gb memory cards.
In order to have the necessary connections, etc, for a removable battery, the memory card, the removable parts of the case, etc, something has to give, either the phone has to be bigger or the battery has to be smaller, plus the phone is much more vulnerable to damage if dropped. Also how many times have people complained about loss of data from a card that's gone on the fritz, something that almost never happens with in-built storage, combined with cloud storage of photos, etc.
I've got a 128Gb 6+, with several hundred books in various book readers, a fair bit of music, several mapping apps, like Here, CoPilot Live, Viewranger, UK Map, with lots of maps installed, and I've used 84.6Gb so far, mainly because all my photos go into cloud storage. Next phone will be 256Gb*, but I'll almost certainly dump CoPilot, and I'll stuff it full of music; my entire music library is 200Gb, so I'll probably be able to get everything on the phone with space left over, and no fannying around with fragile removable storage.
*The latest pad has 256Gb, so it's a given the iP7+ will as well.
As an aside, the current iPhones are, while not exactly waterproof, very water resistant, something Apple has kept very quiet about, probably to avoid litigation after some jackass uses their phone in the bath and drops it...
With removable storage and battery, that wouldn't be possible.
Perhaps Apple can't make a waterproof phone with removable battery and micro sd but Samsung managed it with the S Cover, S4 Active and S5. The S7 and various Sonys are waterproof with fixed batteries but sd card support. The iPhone isn't waterproof for the same reason the Samsung S6 wasn't, the manufacturer chose not to offer it.
The iPhone isn't waterproof for the same reason the Samsung S6 wasn't, the manufacturer chose not to offer it.
Agreed. No idea why Apple haven't gone for a full waterproof option yet. I think they should have done it when they dropped the old 30-pin connector.
There are rumours of them dropping the headphone port - so maybe waterproofness is on the way.
There are rumours of them dropping the headphone port - so maybe waterproofness is on the way.
How's that work? Lightning-to-3.5mm Apple adapter?
Lightning port or Bluetooth seems the most likely:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/iphone-7-headphone-jack-why-apple-removing-it-is-a-good-thing-1313546
I'm wondering why I got a 128Gb iPhone as I've only used about 20% of the space after about 4 months!
Have only used 50% of my 64GB 😳 I would have bought 32gb but the size is no longer offered
I couldn't use an old style phone - I make close to zero calls and spend most of the time with the phone online and/or watching downloaded content inc bbc iPlayer
only used 50% of my 64GB
To be fair if you had a 32GB phone it would be full to the brim and smartphones, like most computers, don't like that very much and get a bit cranky.
Tempted by this 5SE. The 6S is nice but just a bit big to easily go in some trouser pockets. Especially with a headphone plug in. I would not miss the 3D Touch feature and the new 5SE has most everything else. Though I might now miss the bigger, higher resolution screen.
Sales tax in some US states goes as low as 0% (Delaware). The UK price is a bit more than + VAT and likely includes a margin to anticipate currency fluctuation as well.
PGP
Do US phones work on different frequencies or is that old tech?
Only ask as I'm off that way next month and could be a way to get a 64Gb SE.
I've recently been using an Aldi 5" Android that I got for £70!! Android has many features that seem streets ahead of apple but sadly I'm just too locked in to the software on Apple (use a couple of prices apps for work that aren't on. android).
I can't afford a 6s and actually where would I put it in day to day use?!
This might appeal to some. Nice size, takes SD cards, and the battery gives 14 hours talk time or a month on standby:
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And it even has Snake.
That's awesome. Wish they were available when we were all going to 80s parties. Might get one for site work - no probs using it hands free - easily cradled on a shoulder. 😀
Just a bit of info. I pre-ordered via Apple, but am now cancelling. As [url= http://www.johnlewis.com/new-apple-iphone-se-ios-4-4g-lte-sim-free-64gb/p2621621?colour=Space%20Grey ]John Lewis[/url] will have the phone for pickup on launch, and include a 2yr warranty, rather than Apple's 1.
You realise the Limitations Act gives you 6-year protection against faulty manufacture anyway? [url= http://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/ ]http://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/[/url]
I do realise, but this way I don't have to worry about the hassle of....
"Any defect or non-conformity of goods with the contract which becomes apparent within 6 months of delivery are presumed to have existed at the time of delivery. [b]After the expiry of this 6 month period, the burden to prove that the defect or non-conformity of goods with the contract existed on delivery generally shifts to the consumer."[/b]
....for the first 2 years. Plus, from a personal point of view, I have a local JL, but not Apple Store.
@bong Apple are pretty good at offering replacements even after a year for products bought directly from them. However as you say JL gty is explicit and shop is local. Enjoy.
Actually, the more I read about it, the more I might just leave the order as is. My understanding is JL will use contractors, and not necessarily AASPs to fix Apple products. This might be incorrect, but it's what some of the internet is suggesting. Whereas Apple will use...erm...themselves.
Apparently, my order is in the queue to be posted out so cannot be cancelled now. So it would be a refusal of delivery type thing if I did want to cancel. Prob easier to just leave it and have a day out in Leicester/Milton Keynes if I need to get any work done 😛
Decisions decisions.
The first year will be covered by Apple the second by JL.
Well, yes that's what I meant. I could have worded it better.
One of our friends had a 5 which had to have an upgraded battery fitted under warranty.Apple told her to take it to Stormfront which is some sort of Apple Store. They took it to bits and then it didn't work.My friend was called up and told to collect it. They told her that an unapproved person had opened it up before them so they weren't liable for anything.
After tearing them all a new arse hole Apple agreed to send it to Holland to fix it properly.
Stormfront
Sounds like a Eastern European far right political party.
Stormfront aren't Apple, they are independent. I occasionally use them for accessories, etc, as I have one local to me, but they are a shower of shit when it comes to anything vaguely technical. Remember you can always post stuff to Apple to have it fixed.
In order to have the necessary connections, etc, for a removable battery, the memory card, the removable parts of the case, etc, something has to give, either the phone has to be bigger or the battery has to be smaller, plus the phone is much more vulnerable to damage if dropped.
I'm not sure what you base that on, when several other manufacturers have offered a waterproof phone with removable memory, some of them for several years now, none of which are any less tough than an iPhone. They all have headphone jacks too.
My 2 year old Z1 comapact has a micro sd card, USB port, headphone jack and a 2,300mah battery (significantly bigger than an iPhone 6s). I have used it to take photos underwater in a swimming pool. It has survived 2 years in my farm/forestry worker/fabricator pockets with no case on. I'd say that answers all the points you mention.
Also how many times have people complained about loss of data from a card that's gone on the fritz, something that almost never happens with in-built storage, combined with cloud storage of photos, etc.
Never. I don't believe it's a common problem at all. How many times have people had to factory reset their deivces and lost everything on the built in storage? I imagine that is much more common. The cloud is only any good when you have good network coverage. No good for me and many others who live in rural areas.
I predict that in 2 years time Apple will 'invent' the worlds first waterproof phone (minus headphone jack, usb/charging port and with a new sim card standard obviously) and Apple fans will all wet themselves with excitement. They will form long queues and part with a mere £1000 to be the first to behold this great leap in mobile phone technology.
Meanwhile, the other phone manufacturers will continue to innovate.
Ok. Pop quiz. Would you rather buy your phone from John Lewis or Apple?
Apple is Apple but only state 1yr warranty, although consensus seems to suggest they usually help out in the second year as well. Repairs/fixes usually same day or a couple of days.
John Lewis offer explicit 2yr warranty, but in that second year I imagine any repairs will involve having to send the phone off to whoever Apple get to do their phone repairs.
