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apologies if done.
hurray!
a new smaller phone! not because I want one, but because I want more android manufacturers to build smaller phones with better specs.
running a sony z3 compact at the mo, and it's quick enough, and kind of OK on usability.
but it ain't half fragile, and there are some quirks to the way it behaves that still irk me.
but mostly i'm not happy with it cos it's fragile.
'get a case' yeah yeah. i bought a smaller phone cos i want smaller, not so i can make it bigger with a case.
i never broke my htcs. well, apart from the one that was in my pocket, when i went in the canal. 😳
which theoretically the sony could survive, expect the fricking case is broken again. 😕
more choice for smaller phones!
anyway, that's all. 🙂


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 5:32 pm
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Yep works for me.

I'm still using an iPhone 4S and one of the main reasons (besides money and it still doing everything I need) is that I don't really want a bigger phone. A 5 might be acceptable, but a 6 is just too big for my needs.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 5:37 pm
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Pricing is not small, well at least over here...
US$399
£360...
Seen us coming!


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 5:39 pm
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only recently went from a 4S that was getting bit tired - sold while still fetched some cash - went for 5S. No was - as per GrahamS - I would take a 6..


 
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Yep, i have a 5s, and it's just right, so I'll happily get the SE or whatever its called with 64gb...


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 6:01 pm
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I have a 6 and 6+ the 6 is a lovely size.


 
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get a case' yeah yeah. i bought a smaller phone cos i want smaller, not so i can make it bigger with a case.

A case doesn't need to be huge to give protection, all you need is a plastic clip-on case to protect the edges, and a glass screen protector, the total increase in size will be barely a millimetre per side; thats all the protection my old iP4 has, and my iP5, the 5 has glass protectors front and rear, as well as the thin plastic case, which I had on it when I dropped it a month after I got it walking down a steep country lane and watched it cartwheel four or five times, the only damage was a tiny mark on the base.
Pricing is not small, well at least over here...
US$399
£360...
Seen us coming!

Don't forget the 20% VAT in the UK, in the US sales tax is on a state-by-state basis, and can be as little as 8%, I believe.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 6:17 pm
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Pricing is not small, well at least over here...
US$399
£360...
Seen us coming!

The pricing seems reasonable to me. iphone 6s specs but about £180 cheaper and £20 cheaper than the (outdated) phone it replaces.

Looks like apple attempt to capture the androd mid market space. They've got me considering one to replace my nexus 5.


 
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Pricing is key new feature rather than size. Its 30%-ish cheaper than the 6S but has I understand very similar processor spec levels. Looks to me like Apple is taking on the ofher manufacturers now on price too. IMHO this is a big and bold move


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 6:53 pm
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Totally agree - the last 2 phones I've had have been a Sony Z1 compact & a Z5 compact, because they're both decent spec phones & will fit in my hand.

Oh - & they're reasonably waterproof so happy to take them riding


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:00 pm
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It'll then have access to Apple Pay and such like which - I think - is harder with the 5S, is that right?


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:04 pm
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Cracks me up.

Apple last year: "we've released a new phone, and it's bigger"

Consumers: "fantastic, that's just what we wanted!"

Apple this year: "we've released a new phone, and it's smaller"

Consumers: "fantastic, that's just what we wanted!"


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:08 pm
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thats all the protection my old iP4 has,

My 4S just has a crappy film screen protector (2 for a quid at Poundland). Survives fine in the pocket of my jeans (and doesn't bend if I sit on it!)

The only time it sees a case is when I mount it on my bars as a GPS.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:08 pm
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Apple last year: "we've released a new phone, and it's bigger"
Consumers: "fantastic, that's just what we wanted!"

Different folk want different things?

The size of the 6 and 6+ has never appealed to me


 
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Pricing is key new feature rather than size. Its 30%-ish cheaper than the 6S but has I understand very similar processor spec levels. Looks to me like Apple is taking on the ofher manufacturers now on price too. IMHO this is a big and bold move

I think it's Apple dipping it's toe into the 4" water again. If the 5SE does well, then they will more than likely design and launch an all new 4"-ish phone round about the time the 7S is here.

Apple last year: "we've released a new phone, and it's bigger"

Consumers: "fantastic, that's just what we wanted!"

Apple this year: "we've released a new phone, and it's smaller"

Consumers: "fantastic, that's just what we wanted!"

....or maybe some people wanted a bigger phone, and others didn't. Crazy I know that consumers are not just one homogenous mass.

Anyway, where is Mike with his laser guided insight into all things Apple?


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:11 pm
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small and touch screen don't work out all that we'll in my opinion.

currently using an s6 edge plus. wouldn't mind another half inch of screen if I'm honest.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:15 pm
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You cant reinvent the wheel, but you can change the size as we all know


 
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Joking aside, I applaud it. If they can start a trend for tiny, powerful phones then I'm happy. I have a (ok, crap, but still) tablet, I don't need or want a handset the size of Switzerland.

EDIT: It's identical in size to the 5S it seems.


 
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small and touch screen don't work out all that we'll in my opinion.

currently using an s6 edge plus. wouldn't mind another half inch of screen if I'm honest.

And this is the beauty of the situation. You can get that bigger screen, and for those who prefer smaller phones to slip into their skinny jeans, they now have a viable alternative to well....I guess the 5S and the Z5 Compact. The latter I was probably going to get to upgrade my venerable 5S until this announcement.

I would have liked to have seen a redesign, but one benefit is that all my old cases, GPS mounts etc will still fit.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:17 pm
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NEW shiny thing make everything all better, say clever science man yesterday.

Thing have telly!
Science man say shiny thing is telly and books. And good for seeing photos of you and everyone, and also naked people who do mucky things.

Science man say shiny thing ‘changes game’ and now all the other science men must go away and be sad.

Science man say: “All things everyone have are rubbish. Look! Telly and books! That will be £400 please thank you.”

Nikki, a girl who has had 27 birthdays and works in a big building, say: “Oooooooooh. It do telly. I will see telly on it and make it help me buy nice hats.

“And look! It fit in bag where I have keys and little talkie box and red goo I put on face.”

Tom, all grown-up man from busy place, say: “I very busy man who need see telly on big metal tube that take me to busy job.

“But look! It also play game! I play noisy game on metal tube and be happy.”

And Bill, really, really old man who sits in chair all day, say: “It make words happen by pointing at it. Oooooooooh.

“I will make it help me say clever words to newspaper about gypsies and ****stan.

“AND IT DO TELLY!”

[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/shiny-thing-make-it-all-better-201001282420 ]Mash. [/url]


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:23 pm
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Is Captainflasheart really Saxonrider?


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:27 pm
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No. I'm Joe Cocker. And so is my wife.

🙂

(Really can't understand the throbbing semis that people get over a new shiny thing.)


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:30 pm
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One thing that maybe hadn't been picked up is that the 5S will continue (for now - assuming it will be dropped come the usual September release). Apple aren't ranging it on their site, but other channels (mainly the networks + CarphoneWarehouse) will continue to sell it - price point is cheaper than SE (which itself is cheaper than 5S currently).

Interesting move by Apple - moved the attainabity of Apple devices down the value chain but, as usual, allows them to keep tight control over their precious brand.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:31 pm
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Really can't understand the throbbing semis that people get over a new shiny thing.

Gadgets are ace.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:34 pm
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The main thing that has struck me about this announcement is that we're talking about it [i]after[/i] it's been announced.

Previously we'd have had multiple threads about it in the week(s) leading up to the announcement.

For once I was totally unaware that a new model was being announced. Am I out of touch and I've missed all the chat, or has the buzz died down this time around?


 
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For once I was totally unaware that a new model was being announced. Am I out of touch and I've missed all the chat, or has the buzz died down this time around?

No-one really cares.

I am relatively up on my Apple stuff, but this passed me by as well, and given what was plopped out of the presentation, I can see why. Nice little phone, but didn't need a presentation.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:40 pm
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Really can't understand the throbbing semis that people get over a new shiny thing.

Really? Not even skis? 😉

To be honest I don't think many people are terribly excited about this phone. It's just an interesting move market-wise.

But generally speaking gadgets are ace and we live in an age of technological wonder.


 
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But generally speaking gadgets are ace and we live in an age of technological wonder.

Ah, that explains the happiness and contentment that pervades modern society.


 
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I have to add, I viewed the rumors with suspicion, but am pleasantly pleased by the SE. I don't want a bigger handset, I have tablet for that, & I am surprised at the more reasonable (hey it Apple) pricing. Will 'probably' be my next phone, not yet but when my 5 dies. Though the likes of the Xiaomi Mi 5 Pro on it way, the market may be shaken up further (price/spec wise, not screen size)


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 7:54 pm
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Ah, that explains the happiness and contentment that pervades modern society.

🙄

Given the amount of publicity and anticipation all over social media meant as a tech fan I heard about this months ago.


 
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Seems a bit of a u-turn to me, trying to re-capture market share and move people off old iPhones. Expect to see support for old iPhones dropped pretty quickly now.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 8:07 pm
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If it goes flat do they trust us enough to slip the cover off and put in a new battery,or are we not worthy of that honour?


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 8:12 pm
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Given the amount of publicity and anticipation all over social media meant as a tech fan I heard about this months ago.

I used to go seeking out the announcements and didn't have to look too hard. Then for the last few years there's been general chatter that made me aware announcements were coming. This is the first time I've not known it was happening. Not sure if it's me or just generally less "buzz"...


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 8:12 pm
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I don't think I've ever owned a spare battery for a phone.

This is the first time I've not known it was happening. Not sure if it's me or just generally less "buzz"...

Well it's you. The rumours have been around for months.


 
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Ah, that explains the happiness and contentment that pervades modern society.

Never said it did. The growth in technology is the wonder of our age, in the same way electricity, combustion engines and steam were the wonders of previous ages.

But if you are looking for universal happiness and contentment then you'll need to look elsewhere.

Not sure if it's me or just generally less "buzz"..

I don't think it is just you. The rumours have been bouncing around the tech sites for ages but even Apple seem to recognise that this is a fairly low key release.
We haven't seen the usual Apple PR bombardment of "This change everything. Again." style messages, because it really doesn't.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 8:27 pm
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We haven't seen the usual Apple PR bombardment of "This change everything. Again." style messages, because it really doesn't.

The big announcements will be September the March ones are always small.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 8:33 pm
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I don't think I've ever owned a spare battery for a phone.

That is why there is a whole section of society that as soon as they enter a cafe look for a plug to charge their phone.
When my niece comes to visit she spends the whole evening sitting on the floor by the plug so she can look at her phone.
A spare battery fits in my wallet and I don't even know it's there. I can't imagine why any phone of whatever kind doesn't have a battery you can't swap.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 8:39 pm
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That is why there is a whole section of society that as soon as they enter a cafe look for a plug to charge their phone.

Not something I've had to do.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 8:47 pm
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Why faff about swapping a battery when you can just attach a battery pack?

Haven't quite a lot of smartphones moved towards non-swappable batteries now? It avoids quite a lot of potential failure modes.


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 8:50 pm
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Why faff about swapping a battery when you can just attach a battery pack?

Why not just make a battery that lasts longer in the first place?

In the rush to be "smart", that appears to have been forgotten!


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 8:52 pm
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It's not "forgotten" - it's just really bloody hard.

There are very clever research people all over the world trying to crack the battery capacity issue, as it has become a stumbling block for a lot more than just phones.


 
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It's not "forgotten" - it's just really bloody hard.

Translation - "It's a bit too hard. Let's not bother with it. Let's give them some shiny gewgaws instead. They'll lap it up".

And, to our shame, we do.


 
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It's a bit too hard. Let's not bother with it.

You [i]really[/i] think folk like Sony and Panasonic are sitting back and saying:

[i]"Hey if we could crack the next battery technology we could make mega-bajillions. Should we research it?"[/i]

[i]"Nah, let's stick with lead acid. They work fine."[/i]

Folk are trying. It's hard.

http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/new-design-points-a-path-to-the-ultimate-battery
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130380-future-batteries-coming-soon-charge-in-seconds-last-months-and-power-over-the-air
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/21/dyson-to-invest-1bn-in-battery-technology-thanks-to-profit-surge
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/01/21/the-search-for-a-better-battery-is-a-solution-near/

And don't forget that batteries [i]have[/i] already come a long way

[img] [/img]


 
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My iPhone 6 lasts 2 days without a charge for my normal use. They could give longer battery life in the same was as iPad lasts but the phone would be larger and heavier.

Apple's competitors compete primarily on price, this new mkve from Apple undermines that


 
Posted : 22/03/2016 9:50 pm
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You've got us all bang to rights Flash.
How's that new SUV of yours? 😆
Fwiw the battery on the Sony lasts a couple of days without being careful. But yeah, small, light, loads of functionality, and long battery life is a tough nut to crack. See also 'my old phone that doesn't do all the stuff people like about new ones goes for weeks between charges' 🙂


 
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battery a couple of days?

Christ! I've not had a battery last more than a day since getting rid of my galaxy s4 with a triple capacity battery in it that made the phone huge.

I carry a 6400mah battery bank in my pack at all times. that will get me through the day.


 
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I have a 6 plus now. But I'm seriously considering getting a 5se. Only got girly hands and I loved being able to do everything on a 5s truly one handed. A 64gb 5se would suit my needs better than this 6 plus. Yes I'd miss the screen size but proper one handed use would outweigh the downsides.


 
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So it's baasically a 5s with 6s guts? Sounds good but I'd much prefer they put the guts into the 4s form factor; that was the best, most solid phone I've ever owned. I'd take stainless steel over alu alloy anyday.


 
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Translation - "It's a bit too hard. Let's not bother with it. Let's give them some shiny gewgaws instead. They'll lap it up".

And, to our shame, we do.

Stop that.


 
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So does this mean we all go back to the Nokia 3310. Battery last forever and they are machine washable
(And not to bad at killing spiders)


 
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Billions is being invested in battery technology - it's not just key to phones, laptops and cameras but also electric/hybrid cars. They just haven't had a breakthrough yet (at least that could be commercialised easily), it will come though.

As for the 5se - I've been waiting for it for a few months now (my current 4s is on it's last legs) and pleasantly surprised by the final specs (some of the rumours had it more cut-down). The pricing is about as good as could be hoped from Apple as well (it's far from a bargain though).


 
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It's not "forgotten" - it's just really bloody hard.

not really.

make a phone that's a [i]tiny[/i] bit thicker, and put a bigger battery in it.

and before some tart starts whining 'but this thread is about a [i]smaller[/i] phone, you can't put a bigger battery in a smaller phone...

no, this thread is about the [u]option[/u] of a smaller phone. Well, that's nice, if we're talking about options, i want a bigger battery, i don't care if that means a [i]slightly[/i] bigger phone.

just put a bigger battery in it. for those who want it. we're prepared to spend billions on developing new battery technology, well they can have this technology for free, i call it 'the bigger battery'.

i'm like Elon bloody Musk.


 
Posted : 23/03/2016 10:29 am
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Sadly market forces have spoken there and the majority of consumers are drawn to the sleek shiny super-thin phones on the shelf - even though a great many of them will end up adding a big case to protect that fragile skinny phone and provide more battery capacity.

[img] http://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4662/as-images.apple.com/is/image/AppleInc/aos/published/images/M/GQ/MGQL2/MGQL2_AV1_GOLD?wid=572&hei=572&fmt=jpeg&qlt=95&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.5,0.5,0,0&iccEmbed=0&layer=comp&.v=1453528834088 [/img]
http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MGQL2ZM/A/iphone-6s-smart-battery-case-charcoal-grey

Yuk!


 
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Well blow me.

I really liked my 5s, it just felt right in my hand. I think this SE is just the right phone for me too. The 6s I have now is just too big to put anywhere, doesn't fit neatly in jersey pockets when riding, wallets no trews.

Good idea.

A 5s size phone with the guts of a 6s.

Perfecto'


 
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So it's baasically a 5s with 6s guts? Sounds good but I'd much prefer they put the guts into the 4s form factor; that was the best, most solid phone I've ever owned. I'd take stainless steel over alu alloy anyday.

Yeah, it's an updated 5S, despite all the posturing from a few people saying things like "they made a big one and said it was great, now they're making a smaller one and said it was great, you're all mugs". They make a few different iPhones now, and have for a couple of years now - 3 sizes and 2 specs - the smallest, cheapest one has just been updated to the spec that's pretty much the same as the fancier ones - the fancier ones will be updates in Sept.

The prices are still horrific of course, but no one is forced to buy one.

I really don't understand all the usual moaning when a new shiny thing is released, you don't have to buy them - there are cheaper smart phones that are still very good, there are very cheap smart phones that are okay if you don't expect much and for the real moaners, the "I just want a bloody phone to call people and batteries used to last a decade and it never rained" Nokia, still sell, veyr tough little phones, the batteries still last days and days and they cost less than £20 sim-free and yet despite all this and the leagues of people moaning about how great they were 10 years ago - Nokia has been on the slide for years because no one buys them.


 
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[url= http://bgr.com/2016/03/22/iphone-se-features-top-5-bottom-2/ ]This report on BGR[/url] points out that in 2015, Apple sold 30 million [i]new[/i] older model iPhones with 4-inch screens.

So clearly there is a demand out there for smaller screens.

And of course, the smaller screen means (a bit) better battery life too.

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http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/surprise-iphone-se-actually-rated-to-give-better-battery-backup-than-the-iphone-6s-816683


 
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@bikebouy, I could be a buyer of the 6S if you want to switch.

4 and 5S are not ideal for me as small screen size is hard to read and keyboard especially difficuot to use bs newer larger phone sizes.


 
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(up to) 16 days stand-by time?

bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

And

bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah


 
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(up to) 16 days stand-by time?
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Have you tested it?

It's a 2915mAh battery. So 16 days means it would need to draw an average of ~7.6mA in Standby.

I'd guess that is [i]possible[/i] with absolutely optimal conditions (i.e. absolutely everything turned off).

Obviously [url= http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-review/8 ]real-world figures with the phone in actual use[/url] are very different.


 
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It will be the next phone for both Katie and me I think. I thought the 4 was a lovely form factor but the extra screen on the 5 does make it more useful without being too large to pocket.

I don't get the insistence that phones should be slimmer - the 4 was 'thin enough'. A few extra mm on the 5 body with longer battery would be good for me.

The prices are still horrific of course, but no one is forced to buy one.

High end Smartphones cost money shock. It's a miniature high end computer in your pocket - it's not going to be cheap. Base price of the phone I can understand. Being shafted for enough storage for it to be usable sticks in the throat though - can't believe they still have 16Gb models.


 
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Being shafted for enough storage for it to be usable sticks in the throat though

Yeah they do take the piss on that. An extra 64GB puts £80 on the cost of a 6S.

Meanwhile I can buy a [url= http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Storage/cat/USB-Flash-Drives/128GB?sort=price+ascending ]128GB USB flash drive[/url] for less than £25.


 
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As others have said, make the phone 1mm thicker and put a bigger battery in there, sorted....there is no need for 6mm thin phones, they're simply for pub bragging rights.

Re. Small and powerful phones, do catch up...my HTC One-S from 2013 had a 4.3 inch screen, was slick as you could ever want and had a lovely baked Alu casing making the exterior of the phone wonderfully textured if that appeals to you.

Unfortunately in the phone world some people acknowledge and only acknowledge iPhones and everything else must be tat.....then there are those who s**** at Apple for being several years behind the curve and wouldn't countenance a fruit branded product.

I'd like to think I'm in the middle, that HTC I had was genuinely superb and would still be well reviewed if released in 2016, there have been some Android duds (Galaxy S5 anyone?)....but my current phone is an Apple S5....why?....the media content on iTunes trumps anything available on Google Play.....but if the content was the same I'd go back in a heartbeat.
Apple handsets are decidedly average bits of tech, the screen is made by LG (or Sharp), the processor is a Samsung item ironically enough and when I dropped mine from my pocket last week the much heralded Gorilla Glass shattered costing me an £80 repair.....oh for expendable memory that doesn't cost a fortune to upgrade through the models to get the memory you want/need.

The 2900 mAh battery sounds promising and may stop me from going back to Google, I'll have to have a play on one in a shop.


 
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my note 3 had 3200mah I'd still charge it twice a day.

I had an s4 with a triple calacity battery that would last one whole day of heavy use or two days of standard use.

current s6 edge plus phone has a 3000 mah. which I can just about see a day if I don't take the piss.

but then I do use my phone for everything these days, its replaced my computer.


 
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[quote=deviant ]Re. Small and powerful phones, do catch up...my HTC One-S from 2013 had a 4.3 inch screen, was slick as you could ever want and had a lovely baked Alu casing making the exterior of the phone wonderfully textured if that appeals to you.
....
I'd like to think I'm in the middle, that HTC I had was genuinely superb and would still be well reviewed if released in 2016,
My Mrs is still using my "old" One S. It's a lovely thing and I really like the size, weight and shape. I only changed because it didn't have enough internal storage for the many (and bigger) Apps that I was using.


 
Posted : 23/03/2016 3:02 pm
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i had ( have ) a one s too. 'twas lovely but it got slow, laggy, and the battery life became woeful. if i wanted to look around a new place with mapping running it would get quite warm and digest the battery very rapidly ( like 90% to 10% in 90 mins ). nice phone while it was useful though, it never needed a fricking case, and never broke....
should look at sticking a ROM on it again, see if i can bring it back to life.


 
Posted : 23/03/2016 3:54 pm
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I got a 6S insurance replacement for my 5S. For me it's the perfect size. The screen size and ease of sliding in/out of my pocket is great. There's no way I'd want to go bigger as my thumb just reaches the whole keyboard, and I wouldn't go smaller because it's too small for browsing and watching anything.

All I want it to have is a larger battery and an external memory slot.


 
Posted : 23/03/2016 3:59 pm
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Yeah they do take the piss on that. An extra 64GB puts £80 on the cost of a 6S.

T'is a bit annoying. 16Gb is useless, my work phone keeps filling despite having virtually nothing installed on it. 64Gb with cloud photos + music is pointless (and I bought a 128Gb 6 .. mainly for holidays, lots of photos and videos between syncs .. never really challenged it) now.
32Gb would cost them nothing to fit, and work for a big chunk of the market for the next few years happily.


 
Posted : 23/03/2016 4:27 pm
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So does this mean we all go back to the Nokia 3310. Battery last forever and they are machine washable
(And not to bad at killing spiders)

Funny you should say that. I found one in a cupboard at work last week (and something I've never seen before, 6303 or some such). Charged it up to see if it still works - it does, quelle surprise - and it was still alive this morning. Granted, it's done nowt bar sit on a bench for a few days, but still.

Come the day the bomb goes off, the only thing left will be cockroaches and Nokia 3300-series handsets.


 
Posted : 23/03/2016 5:13 pm
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Just preordered one. Not sure there will be the demand for the SE like there has been for the other models, but figured I would get in early to guarantee delivery for the 31/3.

Guess there is going to be a shit load of 5S appearing on the second hand market soon 8)


 
Posted : 24/03/2016 7:35 am
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I keep my old Nokia in my toolbox for the nails that my hammer can't budge 🙂


 
Posted : 24/03/2016 10:37 am
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Going to a smaller phone helps with battery life - smaller screen to light up, and that's generally the big energy hog.

I very, very rarely plug my Z1 Compact in during the day, and if I do it's usually just a precautionary charge because I'm going to be out late.


 
Posted : 24/03/2016 11:19 am
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External battery packs are good for emergency charges.
Just bought these nice handbag-friendly options for my mum:

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2800mAh for £12 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00FSD4EJM

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Keyring Cable - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00V2UDHXY


 
Posted : 24/03/2016 11:28 am
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That keyring one's neat. I have an Anker battery that's about the same size as a 5" phone, and good for about three charges; brilliant for long bike rides or trips.


 
Posted : 24/03/2016 11:42 am
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Much as I'm a sucker for nifty little gadgets like that, I generally just carry a short (like, 4") ?USB cable around these days. Takes up no space.


 
Posted : 24/03/2016 11:44 am
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Much as I'm a sucker for nifty little gadgets like that, I generally just carry a short (like, 4") ?USB cable around these days. Takes up no space.

Me too, or just surf someone elses charger for 15-20 mins..


 
Posted : 24/03/2016 11:49 am
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Yeah I have a couple of big external packs that I use myself (Anker, Veho and Kingston all seem good). And I have an adbundance of cables too.

But I thought these were neat compact options for a pensioner with limited bag space who might just need a little boost charge to ensure she can make a call 🙂

There are a few interesting variations of that keyring-cable design on my Amazon history now:
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Posted : 24/03/2016 11:53 am
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I have a 6 for work and a 4S as my personal phone. Both are really useful, but if perfectly honest I am considering going back to a basic mobile, if I can find one.

Other that WhatApp and Instagram there really isn't a lot I'll miss. The extra 'functionality' just annoys me now and while I do use it, I dislike being reachable by email everywhere.

I'd need to buy a GPS to use for Strava, but I actually see that as a bonus as it may mean my rides are actually more accurate.

Maybe I'm just getting old and jaded.


 
Posted : 24/03/2016 12:03 pm
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Maybe I'm just getting old and jaded.

Not at all. You just want to have a regular phone. There are a surprisingly large number like you who find all the bells and whistles off putting. To be honest, seeing nearly everyone out and about just staring at their screens makes me die a little bit inside. As such I make a conscious effort to not do the same. My phone, as well as calls, is mainly used as a satnav and mp3 player. So I try to make sure I just use it for that sort of stuff, rather than switching the rest of the real world off.


 
Posted : 24/03/2016 12:12 pm
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Oooh! Some cool things there GrahamS.

You could not enable emails if you don't like them.


 
Posted : 24/03/2016 12:14 pm
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You could not enable emails if you don't like them.

Indeed. The problem there isn't the phone, it's what the network engineers would call Layer 8 issue.

I do kind of agree though. I stumbled across my old 6510 the other day and got a pang of nostalgia. Back In The Day I used to have that little phone together with a Psion 5 to do all the heavy lifting. I even had proto-web access via the phone's IR interface (ok, in monochrome, but still). If I was going out somewhere I wouldn't take relatively expensive technology I could leave the Psion at home.

In an ideal world I'd like that loadout again only with modern technology. I have a coat-pocket sized tablet so don't need a big daft screen on a phone. But all the small phones seem to be aimed at the low end of the market, cheap and nasty and underpowered.

Ho hum.


 
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