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Found an old one in mums garage.
It's inscribed "du klingenthal Novembre 1810"..
It’s a Toledo Salamanca broadsword. Worth about a million bucks.
Any antique dealer on Hudson Street could tell you that.
no, but from Gooogle: http://users.skynet.be/euro-swords/klingenthal.htm and https://www.brlsi.org/museum-collections/online-museum/weaponry/17512
Sounds like it's mass manufactured but still, 210 years... Show us a pic! I know nothing about swords but this is still cool.
There can be only one.
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It’s a Toledo Salamanca broadsword. Worth about a million bucks.
Any antique dealer on Hudson Street could tell you that.
Is from lots of different places?
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It's supposedly an inside joke rather than a mistake- the prop sword's hilt was made in toledo but the blade was made by Salamander Armouries. Yes, I am a nerd.
You're a nerd who completely missed the reference I was making. (-: Garfield antagonising McLeod in the police station, "You talk funny Nash, where are you from?"
I could probably recite like two thirds of that film. The last time I watched it with someone else I was under threat of duct tape.
Ah, yeah, missed the joke. It is a masterclass of accents isn't it- Ramirez, an egyptian who lives and works in spain and has lived a whole life in Japan, goes to Scotland for a trip and instantly becomes Scottish. Connor Macleod, a scottish person from scotland, living in scotland, who talks like whatever the hell it is that Lambert talks like, a broken speak and spell.
I'd get that sharpened and use it to carve my Sunday roast, and I'd start eating Sunday roasts just so I could.
I have a good replica of Ramirez Katana, it's awesome. Plastic handle rather than ivory, and no tang, Sadly probably more recognizable than an actual genuine Katana.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3rzg2cpM1yYLaifPA
https://photos.app.goo.gl/CqLZdoPCChW9Zh519
I'll get some better pics later..
There's an old katana (I think) too..
Some interesting info at this link.
http://users.skynet.be/euro-swords/klingenthal.htm /a>
It says that Klingenthal was the French national sword maker. Given the date the must be some fascinating history behind this sword - maybe one of your ancestors fought at Waterloo and brought it home as a trophy!
Some research into your family tree is in order 🙂
If you sold it, would you describe it as 'used'?
The katana isn't in great condition but some of thd details are lovely.
Not sure how to go about IDing it?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9e3wP1Cxd6XSm6U3A
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rzHedpB3sf2vx9UN7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zqrkaMBSbDRd3aMX7
I think with the katakana some of the information is hidden under the handle on the tang. Of the two the katakana could prove more valuable, as during the war officers might have had a family sword with them rather than a standard issue.
Or you might find the owners name and be able to trace some of its history. Or it could just be a bit of tourist tat.
All in all some very interesting lockdown research tasks ahead.
The katana 'feels' old. Doesn't look like cheap tat, just old and a bit knackered..
Just need to work out how to get to the tang..
Is there a sword track world forum where you could ask? They certainly look interesting...
If they are "something" it could be worth looking into a professional restoration may be?
You could try reddit, IME the more specialist* forums are usually quite helpful: https://www.reddit.com/r/SWORDS/
* Yes, I'm aware that there are other, specialist, reddits out there. They may or may not be helpful depending on your needs...
I know absolutely nothing about swords other than the fact that they fascinate me.
Thanks for sharing the pics, and keep us updated when you find out anything more
Try getting in touch with Matt Easton of Scholagladiatoria, he seems to know everything there is to know about swords.
He has an antique sword website: https://www.antique-swords.co.uk/
Please listen to liquid swords whilst doing any form of research
If the Katana is genuine then there should be a bamboo peg on the grip holding the handle in place. If you carefully knock the peg out then the handle should slide off. Not sure I'd be very confident in doing this to be honest, maybe better to find an expert.
I know absolutely nothing about swords other than the fact that they fascinate me.
Me too, especially those short naval cutlasses. Just the thing for repelling boarders.
Hangers, the naval weapons. Short so they are better for fighting in restricted areas. I have one somewhere, late C19 made in Dublin with some damascening. No idea of it's worth anything.
Managed to get the handle off the katana but can't see any inscriptions 🙁
Found a forum for these swords so, hopefully, find out something about it.
Here's some pics of both:
singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/anyone-know-anything-about-old-swords/#post-11332086
Looks a hell of a lot like this one...
I'm guessing it's probably a troopers issued sword rather than an officers bought one but it's a lovely find nonetheless. Make a grand restoration project 😉
I don't think it'll be worth that much but it is a heavy cavalry sword, slightly older than that one.
The inscription on the Japanese sword translates to "The Moon between two pine trees looks like Two dragons fighting for a gem" which is rather nice.
I've found a forum for Japanese stuff so getting some info from the guys on there.
Looks a hell of a lot like the ones in this short documentary:
Disappeared at the end of WW2, present whereabouts unknown 😉
https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/searching-honjo-masamune-lost-samurai-sword-power-005807
A wee bit of research suggests blade shape and curvature important. As you say, probably nothing, but certainly interesting to find out the details.
Well, turns out that the Japanese sword may be over 400 years old 😲
Needs some more investigative work but potentially from the Muromachi period, approximately 1336 to 1573
Well, turns out that the Japanese sword may be over 400 years old
Wow, that would be amazing. I see a Muromachi sword in very good nick is/was advertised for 460,000!
Yen. Which is less than £4K.
Owning something that old and with such a history, and that brilliant inscription is great - I’m envious. I inherited my Grandad’s scouts sheath knife...
Have you managed to find any more out about the swords?
Aye, an update is needed.