[Closed] Any Lactose intolerant people or Vegans in the house?

Where's the lactose in this ?

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Have it with black coffee.

toast with tahini and a banana this morning

Couldn't you just have your regular cereal with soya milk? My GF does & it seems fine. Or there's even a lactose free milk in the shops now too.

Have a coffee and a fag like a real man. Dairy brings me out in hives/itchy skin/dermographia/blocked sinuses etc so I went to the aforementioned diet years ago, and a couple of espresso and a rollie works a treat in the morning. It's really good for maintaining a regular morning "movement" too.

Dairy is not natural for adult mammals.

Depends, but usually one or more of the following...

Cereal with soya milk (hot milk in the winter on shredded wheat is good)- if you wanna be healthy you can chuck some dried fruit or bananas or summut in with it
Porridge made soya milk and sugar or agave syrup
Toast with peanut butter and jam/marmalade/ginger marmalade
Toast with dairy free marg (eg vitalite or pure)and marmite
Bagels/crumpets/muffins
Fried Mushrooms and linda mccartney sausages on toast
Beans on toast
Fry up
Or, if I'm on the road a costa coffee from the service station made with soya milk and caramel syrup and a trek bar or something similar

HTH 🙂

Dairy is not natural for adult mammals

Dairy is not natural for adult mammals

But tobacco is?

Yeah, when's the last time you've seen an adult mammal sucking a cows teat outside the office? eh?

I have a reaction if I have too much soya too, so I either have Muesli with hot water or toast with peanut butter, honey or jam. When I could have soya I just had breakfast cereals with soya milk on, or fruit with soya yogurt.

Yeah, when's the last time you've seen an adult mammal sucking a cows teat outside the office? eh?

bircher muesli (spell?)Soak muesli dase (oates/millet flakes etc) in apple juice over night and add soya yoghurt + fruit nuts
drop scones with raisins and DARK chicolate as weekend treat
Cereal + soya milk
Toast and whatever

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Yeah, when's the last time you've seen an adult mammal sucking a cows teat outside the office? eh?

You've clearly never been to Norfolk.

True dat and well spotted. I have my pantomime cow regalia and a coach ticket booked.

[img] [/img]I seriously misread the title of this thread - must be my anti-chav radar ............................Lacoste intolerant indeed!

I'm way ahead of you Dr. [img] [/img]

also, if you don't like soya milk (sweetened or unsweetened) there are obviously other ones to try - rice, oat, almond, quinoa (which is surprisingly nice) etc

I'm way ahead of you Dr.

I'm waiting for the coach now, and I'm Friesian out here...

(edited for a more realistic representation of my Norfolk visit attire)

(2nd gen edit-although my udder is bigger.)

(I don't have an udder.I meant my "Teat")

That was udderly rubbish
Dont milk it
I will get my coat

Dont milk it

You're welcome to milk my teat anytime junkyard.

LOL and runs away worried

I need to keep the milk down to a little in tea and coffee and dont drink much of those two. ~ So I needed and alternative and now on my cereals I love orange juice!

I used to use Oat milk, but as a way of moving away from milky stuff entirely. Its not very milk-like in the same way as as soya milk, its also nicely simple - just oats and water, so it tastes different to milk but does a similar job. Works better in cereals than it does in hot drinks though.

I gave up milk and cheese about a year ago, and oat milk was a useful transition for things like hot drinks as I'd always had my tea and coffee quite milky. In the end though I felt that milky subsitutes are dodging the issue, particularly as they aren't as easy to lay your hands on, so I decided it was better to make a clean break. All that milk and (most) cheese really does is soften the taste of things and bulk them up, once your out of the habit of it you don't miss it. In fact I took a concerted swing towards small, sharp, strong tasting things and away from long, sloppy voluminous gloop. Swapped milky tea and gallon mugs of latte for thimbles of espresso, swapped lager for whisky etc. It took quite a while longer to get into longer black coffees and black tea. With tea it was actually an adjustment in how long it takes me to drink it, I'll nurse a cuppa for quite a while.

Given that milk and cheese where pretty much my favorite things, now on the odd occasions that I fall off the lorry (float) I wonder why I ever bothered with it in the first place.

Breakfast... espresso, orange juice, toast, marmite
If I've got a bit more time on my hands then Jamie Oliver's Eggy/chilli/crumpets with bacon. Brilliant, sounds a bit whacky but its not. The only down side being chopping chilli at 6am - you will will will rub your eyes.

porridge (using a 1:2 ratio of soya milk and water) with sultanas, or golden syrup if i feel dirty.

toast with pure sunflower margarine and st dalfour jam.

fried mushrooms with garlic and soy sauce on home made bread toast.

or... for a special occasion, a big fry-up. veggie sausages, fake bacon, fried mushrooms and tofu, fried tomatoes, baked beans and home made rosti.

Breakfast most days is Infinity deluxe muesli with Provamel sweetened soy milk & whatever fruit i have in the house, possibly followed by some toast with Suma margarine, all washed down with orange juice & an espresso.

I'll occasionally use fruit juice on cereal, especially when i'm working away & stuck in a hotel with no soy milk. Pear juice is nice.

usual cooked breakfast it'd be beans, fried mushrooms & crumbled bean curd (which comes out a bit like scrambled eggs), sauté spuds done in a wok with chilli & garlic. There's a Madhur Jaffrey spicy scrambled eggs recipe that adopts well to bean curd.

My favourite breakfast, when i have time the night before & i remember to make the batter (which isn't often unfortunately), is Idly or Dosa, Sambhar & masala potatoes.

Has anyone tried the Lactase tablets then? My wife has an intolerance yet she can pretty well much eat what she wants if she has a tablet before the dairy.

She gets them from Holland and Barratt.

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amongst our friends two of the girls are 'fussy' with regards to milk. we've also two vegies although they happily gulp milk and boil [s]baby chicks[/s] eggs.

there is a litre each of soya milk and a lactose free milk in the fridge and only a dribble of full-fat stuff.

i agree that drinking milk isn't normal for mature mammals.

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- be careful when searching "man sucking cow" with safety filter off.

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and boil [s]baby chicks[/s] eggs.

And why wouldn't a vegetarian drink milk? After all, no animals are harmed in the production of milk.

Dairy is not natural for adult mammals.

After all, no animals are harmed in the production of milk.

that's v debateable.

Okay, if the vegetarian is against any possibility of animal cruelty I could understand why they would choose not to eat/drink mass-produced eggs and/or milk, but they could have them from approved sources surely?

I have all bran or weetabix with hot water on

Weekdays: 4 Weetabix with Sainsbury's Sweetened Soya Milk, some raisins, and sunflower seeds; and a smoothie (1 banana, handful of Basics frozen berry mix, orange juice). Easy.

On a weekend if I'm feeling a little daring I'll make a fry up for me and the girlfriend. This is usually LM sausages, mushrooms, tinned plum tomatoes and toast. I love scrambled bean curd but she hates it so I rarely make it.

Not even a hint of lactose in all that.

Okay, if the vegetarian is against any possibility of animal cruelty I could understand why they would choose not to eat/drink mass-produced eggs and/or milk, but they could have them from approved sources surely?

mastiles_fanylion - Member

and boil baby chicks eggs.

But eggs that you buy in a supermarket are unfertilised eggs and would never, ever have become chicks.

And why wouldn't a vegetarian drink milk? After all, no animals are harmed in the production of milk.

yeah, but don't tell them that.

it annoys me a little that people won't/can't eat milf/meat. now i'm a fussy git and won't eat aubergine or zucchini but i'll just fish them out and eat around them. but i can't cook anything tht has shared the same pan with a slab of meat, let alone the same sauce. not that i eat masses of meat.

can't eat milf

Coat is on.

snort. 😆

And why wouldn't a vegetarian drink milk? After all, no animals are harmed in the production of milk

how do they get milk from the cow?
Artificially inseminate cows and then kill the young...cows don’t lactate unless they have been pregnant like every other mammal
Disease in cows is rife especially mastitis (inflammation of the udders
Given regular doses of hormones and medicines to maximise production a lot of which can be found in the milk
Killed when healthy but not producing enough milk

Not my definition of no harm.
Is it still yours?

Eggs again hens are killed once they stop laying though I used to keep hens in a woodland but I moved away. I accept that that may be possible to eat without harm
Some vegans dont eat honey either FWIW.
I cant be @rsed doing this again eat what you want it is your choice but given you can avoid killing things that feel pain to survive I would prefer {yes its a luxury) of doing this but accept others can do as they please.

Read my subsequent post - below for your benefit...

]Okay, if the vegetarian is against any possibility of animal cruelty I could understand why they would choose not to eat/drink mass-produced eggs and/or milk, but they could have them from approved sources surely?

And to be honest, your post does rather sound like it has been taken from an anti-animal cruelty leaflet. No doubt some dreadful things happen to many animals kept for their products, but at the same time your post does sound a bit like scare-mongering. For example, why on earth would a farmer kill the cow's calf? Surely the beast could be kept for it's own milk or sold to a meat farmer. If that sort of thing happens on a mass-scale, it is no wonder our dairy farmers are broke - they need to start thinking laterally about maximising profits...

mastiles_fanylion - can you define 'approved sources' for me please?

FWIW to me, vegetarianism seems a little hypocritical - to not eat meat, but to be happy to drink milk, wear leather shoes etc. Vegans I can understand.

approved sources

But of course, for the very strong-minded and strict veggies, they would probably consider that this is not enough, and all well and good for them - it is their lifestyle choice.

For example, why on earth would a farmer kill the cow's calf?

see here: http://www.vegansociety.com/animals/exploitation/cows/dairy_cow.php

Trust me, it happens, I'm a country girl, I knows about this stuff.

You cannot produce milk for humans without cruelty to the cow.

Whether you believe in veganism or not, eating meat or not, and animal explotation or not, you cannot surely believe that unnaturally forcing an animal to get pregnant, take the calf away, milk her until she is sore, lame and bleeding and then repeat the cycle is anything other than cruel. Especially when we don't need milk to live. Even if they were 'rotated'. Just out of interest - where would the money come from to keep the cow whilst is it unproductive?

I am not going to get into an argument about animal-cruelty and vegetarianism as it would just get silly - I am prepared to accept that cruelty will happen in the food cycle in order to get the foodstuffs I prefer on my plate.

You clearly are not prepared to accept that and credit to you for that.

But no amount of arguing from either of us will change either's viewpoint as each of us has an equally valid point of view.

As I have already said... [i]But of course, for the very strong-minded and strict veggies, they would probably consider that this is not enough, and all well and good for them - it is their lifestyle choice.[/i]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_cattle

In a similar manner to what happens to many lactose intolerant people, links are now just being regurgitated.