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 DrP
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Looking to get a more secure and insulated door for my workshop ("cough" garage.. "cough").
Keen on the electric roller doors, but the issue is I've not got a great deal of space above the garage opening, and as such, the 'roller mechanism' will poke into the current opening by about 12cm. Not too bothered about this as they have facias that cover the gubbings on show, and it doesn't look too bad, but...

My question is; [b]is there a recognised suggested minimum garage door opening height?[/b] With the above mentioned 'overhang', and the fact that about 7cm of door remains on show when open, it means the floor to door height will be 199cm (just over 7ft).
Simply put - is this enough? I'm not planning on using it for a car, but others may do once we sell. The current 'up and over' door leaves a heigh of only 202cm, so it's 3cm lower....

Cheers,
Also, any recommendations of companies in the south/Dorset, and what sort of price should I be looking to pay? Is £675 for a 8ft x 7ft door standard/good/bad?

Ta!

DrP


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 6:01 am
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Hi

Check out [url= http://www.rollergaragedoors.co.uk/roller-garage-doors/seceuroglide-excel/ ]this[/url] company. They manufacture a police preferred roller door.

The amount of headroom that you need is 300mm, with a bottom slat hangdown of 55mm. we also do a more compact verion that only needs 205mm headroom.

Have a look on the website there are videos of the door being attacked.


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 6:18 am
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These guys did my parents [url= http://www.dorsetdoors.com/ ]here[/url] the website isn't great but they did a good job.


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 6:44 am
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Just a thought, but have you considered a vertically split pair of doors instead? If you're not actually using the garage for cars, and arrange things sensibly inside, you can virtually seal up one door and just use the other for getting bikes and stuff in and out.


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 7:02 am
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I'll brick it up for you! 😛

Busy this week?


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 7:13 am
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My local tip has a height restriction of 6'6". Wouldn't think you'd have any future problems with 7'.


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 7:30 am
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i've fitted about a dozen of the sws shutters that yetiguy mentions a few years back and whilst it was a joy to install and operated really well the wood effect laths scuffed very easily.
after just two weeks the customer was complaining about lots of scrathes on every door(11 if i remember), after another fortnight i was back to replace the scuffed sections, dont know if it was my company that paid for the new sections or sws done it as a good will gesture.
if you do go for these get some references from existing customers as to the longevity of the finish.


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 8:23 am
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I had to replace my old up and over cheap garage door when the buggers broke in. I looked at roller doors but they were very expensive. So I went with a [url= http://www.hormann.co.uk/garage-doors/sectional-doors/ ]sectional door from Hormann[/url] which is apparently very secure, complete with electric opener for £800. You can't force it upwards, cos of the way the track is designed - which is good. Plus it's insulated which helps keep the garage and hence the house warm, being an integral garage.

It also doesn't need any more opening space than a normal door, which may be of use to you.


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 12:07 pm
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Just had one of the roller garage doors as per the link from Yeti Guy (as in done last week!) No scratches as reported by flatfish. We went for the compact one (a lack of headroom) and am delighted with it. NOT CHEAP, ours was over £1300 (Comment: You could get a bike for that!) Fitted by the local agent where I live (NE Hants).


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 12:30 pm
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What are good options for making vertically split doors more secure? Mine are moulded out of something.


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 12:40 pm
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Doc. RSD's are OK but the "U" value is not the best (galv RSD have none Insulated RSD are poor and seals are not that good even SWS), headroom requiremnent is about 300-350 mm from clear opening height dependant on manufacturer. Your best option is an industrial sectional overhead door (with 40 mm mimimum thicness door panels) "U" value is 0.45 w/mK2 making it very good, warm and makes your "workshop" nice and quiet as well !! The industrial sectional door with a "low headroom track" assembly requires 250 mm above opening height, Hormann can do it at 220 mm last time I looked. This will set you back around £ 1100 + vat (dont hold me to this as different companies apply different margins). PM me if you need details. I work for the largest manufacture of Industrial sectional overhead doors in the UK as well as industrial rolling shutters, although we only sell to the trade ie Ho**ann et al. I can give you some help if need be. Domestic garages are OK, but we do not specialise in this market, many large distribution centres/warehouses/factories etc. One of "our" garage doors below, quality. 8)

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Posted : 06/04/2010 12:44 pm
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Kingkongsfinger - that bottom one looks exactly like mine from the inside.


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 12:56 pm
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They are all manufactured from the same/very similar generic componants from europe or asia. The bottom photo is a "standard" photo" just showing what it would look like from the inside however the top photo is an actual "installation".
Hormann (German manufacturer) are doing a 25% discount on garage sectional overhead doors as they have been established for 75 years, still quite a bit of money though. http://www.hormann.co.uk/75years/


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 1:23 pm
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When I bought mine having narrower slats printed on the sections instead of wider ones, or even NOT having the fake wood grain embossed in cost almost 50% more. Seems like they make a ton of the standard type and anything else is extra even if manuf costs would be the same.

Oh and Hormann can do a normal person door within the garage door, which is awesome 🙂


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 1:28 pm
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When I bought mine having narrower slats printed on the sections instead of wider ones, or even NOT having the fake wood grain embossed in cost almost 50% more. Seems like they make a ton of the standard type and anything else is extra even if manuf costs would be the same.
The domestic garage door market charge extra for everthing and anthing that is not stadard as they do not manufature, in the industrial door market every door is "made to measure" so if its a non standard garage door it works out cheaper for industrial.
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Oh and Hormann can do a normal person door within the garage door, which is awesome

Add £500 + to the cost of the door + vat (which is normal) 😯
In a standard size garage door it would look odd.


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 2:01 pm
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Add £500 + to the cost of the door + vat (which is normal)
In a standard size garage door it would look odd.

Yeah, that's why I didn't get it. Still cool tho 🙂


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 2:16 pm
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[b]molgrips[/b], just for you seeing you think they are cool and awesome. ps when you have been selling them for ove 20 years the panache wears off some what. 😥
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Posted : 06/04/2010 3:06 pm
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That's not cool, it's at a warehouse. Having one in your own garage door is what makes it cool 🙂

I want one with a lil flap in it so when someone knocks I can slide it open and go 'Yeeeesss??' comically.


 
Posted : 06/04/2010 3:15 pm