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Nesh gentrified big city types.
anti English hate at school.
What? & no-one's mentioned the 'R' word yet? Amazing!
FWIW I've been up Scotland way many many times since 1975 & have never ever come across any 'anti English'....(what's the word?) I'd move to the NW coast in a flash if I wasn't 'getting on a bit'
I can relate to Captainsasquatch's not on some Welsh speaking folk swapping from English to Welsh as you go in a shop too. Happenned to me & the Mrs in Conwy.
Lol, shorts, nutters! 😆
Tuesday afternoon...
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Must be a micro-climate in neighbouring DG as I'm not seeing this here in Ayrshire
This.
The weather moaners are to be taken with a pinch of salt.
Borders is best. I'm biased but Peebles and Innerleithen are (in their own little way) quite cosmopolitan. There are lots of born and bred locals but also lots of incomers from various countries - even England.
The schools are good, the Council is not too bad and I genuinely think that the sense of community is very strong. Come on, move up here.
If you don't want to live in a city peebles would be good - bar the lack of trains.
We moved from Surrey to Aberdeen(shire) nearly 3 years ago. Have a 4 month old daughter now. No intentions of moving back, we love it here. Looking forward to bringing the little one up here, also the local riding isn't half bad!
No problems with the Scots/English interface (although my partner is very Irish which does help) - I've never had trouble in deepest Wales either, quite the opposite actually. I've never lived there though, more of a weekend warrior kayaking capacity back in the day.
The weather up here is surprisingly dry, always seems far wetter towards the borders...(ducks)
This.The weather moaners are to be taken with a pinch of salt
Sorry, must've mistaken the damp stuff falling from the sky for something else...
I stay in Linlithgow, which between Edinburgh (20 miles) and Glasgow (30 miles). Regular trains and commutable by bike which is mega important. Have to drive to the awesome riding but there is mountain biking from the doorstep too. Been here 5 years and I love it..
Personally I'd [i]even more love[/i] to live in the borders but apart from the plus points of awesome riding and cheap housing, that would be easily be killed by a potential horrific commute. OFC if you can find work locally (public sector work - teacher, nhs etc?) then it might work for you.
I've lived in Scotland all my life and there has always been (IMO) a bit of an anti English sentiment but it's minor TBH and tends to revolve around sport etc. There will always be a few drunken bams who would go out looking for trouble but most people will be pleasant towards English. As an incomer I'd probably recommend not stirring things up (e.g build a eyesore 8 bedroom house with 6 foot perimeter walls and electronic gates - why do so many people in England do this it's so obnoxious?)
We moved as family of 5 in 2008 from Sheffield to Loch Tay. Utterly idyllic rural, mountain location, with the best and worst in society, feels wonderful in summer, end of the earth on a wet Wednesday in November.
Since then I've changed jobs and we moved to Dunblane. I'm struggling to think of a better place to bring up kids, work and access great nature/hills/facilities and more. It (and Bridge of Allan and Stirling).
Scottish are welcoming and generally positive folk.
Houses are more affordable, schools good without this daft fight for places that England has.
We love it - but having lived in Kirkcudbright for 4 years when first married, so had an idea what to expect.
The weather is colder and wetter - but not so bad it stops us.
We're a long way from family, it takes effort to go see them.
Houses are more affordable, schools good without this daft fight for places that England has.
Good move getting your kids into the high school in Dunblane. Supposed to be one of the best state schools in Scotland isn't it?
Its shite here all the rest are liars, best staying where you are and not cluttering up oor trails
Personally I'd even more love to live in the borders but apart from the plus points of awesome riding and cheap housing, that would be easily be killed by a potential horrific commute
Linlithgo and Peebles are equidistant to edinburgh.
And unless something really goes wrong its less than an hour to north edinburgh right through town?
The crap weather is a real thing in Scotland though and that would sway me towards North Wales. Wales may be wetter but on a nice summers day it can be amazingly warm, Scotland always seems cold by comparison.
joshvegas - MemberLinlithgo and Peebles are equidistant to edinburgh.
True, but to get to Edinburgh from Linlithgow you can use a motorway, or a 20 minute mainline train service.
We're a long way from family, it takes effort to go see them.
It's all good then!
I moved up here, (highlands) well I don't know how long ago cos the Mrs isn't awake to tell me, but its got to be 25-30 years ago.
I've never had any real anti English feeling directed at me, well one old lady who didn't think I should be ahead of her in a queue for some reason, other than that everyone has been lovely. Its a great place to live, and it wouldn't be the same without the midgies, they keep the numbers down.
falkirk-mark - Member
Its shite here all the rest are liars, best staying where you are and not cluttering up oor trails
You used to be Leith-Mark didn't you 😀
Sorry, must've mistaken the damp stuff falling from the sky for something else
Of course we get rain, it's just that some folks exaggerate the shit out of it.
We moved up to Aberdeenshire from North Yorkshire 3 years ago and then to Inverness at the end of last year due to work.
Inverness is fantastic. Great weather (so far), great riding, plenty going on for the kids (4 and 7).
Its a very multicultural place with plenty of mixed accents in the school playground.
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Of course we get rain, it's just that some folks exaggerate the shit out of it.
As Birky's picture shows, it varies massively between east and west.
It rains ALL the time in Glasgow. When I was living up there, I remember one winter where it rained from bonfire night until some time in January. Seriously. Proper rain, not just a bit of drizzle. Horrible.
Ok, spoken with no exaggeration then, it rains where I live more days than it doesn't.
Would you like me to pretend Scotland aren't sh*te at football and the entire Old Firm farce isn't an embarrassment too while we're donning the Scottish Tourism Board hat?
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I love it round here, the guy simply wanted a locals eye view of what someone from South of the Border's perspective of life is like in, quite specifically, D&G and The Borders.
It can be tropical and balmy with palm trees and coconuts around Ayrshire for all the relevance that brings to the conversation .
It rains ALL the time in Glasgow.
My point exactly, Thanks for that.
onehundredthidiot - Member
I'd say that you need to make sure you know where you're talking about.
I know people get grumpy in Kirkcudbright because it's talked about as being in the borders when it's not it's in Dumfries and Galloway. It's a small thing but
Its actually in the old Stewartry, and they do get a bit uppity about it. Imagine Dumfries being the "capitol/big toon" where all the decisions are made and money spent/centralisation etc 😉
scotroutes - Memberbigjim »
Sadly that is definitely a problem in Scotland, and the two girls would likely have to endure a certain amount of anti English hate at school.This did happen a lot at my school, but it was the Highlands in the early 90's. I suspect it's a bit better now as so many people have moved up, but don't know for sure.
D&G and the Borders has a large number of English people, lots have come with work but the current "big issue" is the lure of our free prescriptions, medical, transport giveaways etc. Not sure of the statistics but MrsT tells me it is and is becoming a huge problem for the area.
Another small town, Thornhill is suffering the same issues as the Lakes and has been said elsewhere, people selling up and buying houses with cash that is now forcing locals out. This is nothing new, been going on since the `80s, many kids at the school mine went to had parents who had done this. Most came to work, transfers into council, education, medical but now its as above, the lure of the freebies and the retired.
as has also been said a lot of those people are now and have been responsible for the regeneration of small villages by rolling up their sleeves and getting stuck into community projects.
on the other side of the coin my daughter works over the Border and gets stick for stealing an English persons job!!!!!
It cannot be denied that there is some areas that may be hostile, just as in Wales(have witnessed that!!)and there has been a few court cases but as always there are 2 sides to every story.......
You should be OK in Wales, if more people got behind this prick, we could have Welsh eradicated in a couple of generations. Fortunately he's not as narrow minded as the people he calls narrow minded.
[url= http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/forcing-pupils-learn-welsh-keep-9256782 ]http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/forcing-pupils-learn-welsh-keep-9256782[/url]
No good jobs for young ones
Assuming kids end up going to uni they are unlikely to be coming home assuming they do a "professional" degree.
Both mine have good jobs earning more than me 😀
Daughter went to college because she had no idea what she wanted to do(she did but school fricked up, product design)then to uni and on into teaching. Son started as an apprentice and is now an engineer with a degree in construction gained as an adult student.
CD is a we bit away from train stations as you probably know? Nearest is Dumfries but the fastest trains to Glasgow run from Lockerbie which MrsT uses regularly. Dumfries is for Carlisle only which can be good for going onwards South.
If it's real anti English bile you're after try Ireland
dragon - Member
The crap weather is a real thing in Scotland though and that would sway me towards North Wales. Wales may be wetter but on a nice summers day it can be amazingly warm, Scotland always seems cold by comparison.
All the English people I know, some for 50yrs manage fine 💡
My riding buddy @4.13
Add Newcastle to the list of airports, good for Malaga...
I lived in glasgow for many yeaqrs - yes it rains sometimes and above the UK average - but less rainy days than Manchester for example. colder in Scotland - yes. Wetter - depends where you compare it with
Nothing worse than the Welsh changing from English to Welsh as you enter their shops. Yes, my hearing is that bloody good.
Learn some Welsh unless that offends your little Englander sensibilities.
Learn some Welsh unless that offends your little Englander sensibilities.
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Nos da cariad. 😉
cysga'n dawel
Apology accepted.
What sort of comute are you after and where too?
I'd bugger off over the border if my missus agreeded to it. I'm half Scottish n have a lot of family up there.
I'd move several places. Mull of Galloway, Newton Stewart, kirkudbright port William, port Patrick. Black isle and Inverness and anywhere north west. But not fort bill. Though near would be ok.
OH Perthshire is nice Perth is my favourite city
For those who prefer facts to fiction: Glasgow is recorded as the UK's second wettest city. Manchester eighth. Apart from that carry on...normal service can now be resumed....
That's great, some facts. But it rains 'all the time' is utter bullshit.
Glasgow, 155 days with precipitation last year.
http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/Scotland/Glasgow/statistics.html
For those who prefer facts to fiction
Yes, look at the rainfall map above, the west of Scotland is significantly wetter than the east. The east coast rain shadow was always a staple of O-grade geography!
If you are thinking about moving to Scotland, the big things to consider are what you need in terms of culture, services and employment. 70% of the population lives in the Central Lowlands, and unsurprisingly, that's where the best services and employment opportunities are concentrated. If you are flexible about where you can work, there is some beautiful country in the south and north, but the pay off is that you just won't have access to a lot of stuff that is available if you are nearer to Glasgow or Edinburgh.
It depends what you want. Some people are happy to live way out in the country and drive everywhere. Living just outside Edinburgh for almost 20 years, I have been able to work for a variety of different employers in a number of different locations (mostly contracting) and have still been able to commute by bicycle all that time. My home area was Dumfries and Galloway, which was a great place to grow up, but the employment opportunities I currently have just don't exist there.
Another bonus to consider if you move up - you might get the opportunity to vote for independence in the next referendum, and the possibility of fast track re-entry to Europe!
move to France the Jocks and the welsh dont want you. 😈
A non statistical answer but I live in edinburgh and have been working in Glasgow, more often than not it's dry at home and wet when I get to Glasgow.