[Closed] Any English people on here who moved to North Wales or Scotland?

A non statistical answer but I live in edinburgh and have been working in Glasgow, more often than not it's dry at home and wet when I get to Glasgow.

Glasgow: 1124mm p/a 170.3 days with rain.
Edinburgh: 704mm p/a 124.2 days with rain.

thestabiliser - Member
If it's real anti English bile you're after try Ireland

Property is reasonable 'cause Dundee is a shithole!

Depressingly, being Aberdonian this has for decades been my default answer. This is NO longer true and a dated opinion. Dundee is punching above its weight hugely now and compared to the Aberdeen of 2017...well lets just say 'how the mighty have fallen' I still love Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire as its home but its lost its lustre recently with the oil bust. Moving away to NW England 5 years ago (now settled with young family in Lancashire) has taught me amongst other things that frankly, ribbing of the Scot's is still alive and well. There's a general assumption that I'm a nationalist spokesperson and will endlessly be itching to talk about the farking Indy referendum... which do not. GTF. So it works both ways. Almost all of this is good natured of course, but its not peculiar to Scotland. Oh and everyone I've met in Lancashire? lovely. Ok maybe not everyone in Preston but that's a long story.

This is NO longer true and a dated opinion. Dundee is punching above its weight hugely now

+1

With the V&A and waterfront development it's going to stunning. Some decent tech jobs too.

NW England 5 years ago (now settled with young family in Lancashire

So why have you never turned up on a MNPR then?....

Right, a different perspective.

Anti English banter is no worse than any anti Scots banter I have encountered down south. That's to say, tedious pish from the mouths of tedious ****ers trying to be funny rather than with any real malice. That said I tend not to hang around the real shiteholes so YMMV.

Ayrshire isn't that bad depending on where you go, the East is mainly shite aside from the village's north of Kilmarnock, the rest is mainly forgotten ex mining villages. If you want an idea read the early chapters of The Flying Scotsman. North, again, isn't all that. I stay on Largs which, although nice is mostly populated by knobends. South is much better in terms of places to live and the people (I may be biased coming from Troon).

Not much experience of D&G in terms of Solway firth but I will say this; I don't see the big attraction. My friend's folks have retired in Elrig and its lovely but closest town is Newton Stewart then Stranraer for the train. That said its in a nice quiet part of the world and I could happily live there.

In contrast Castle Douglas has nothing. As in, its big enough to be a town but nothing to offer that it should for a town that size. I can imagine it would be easy to get frustrated with it. I should add that this is just based on a brief stay but have seen plenty of better places. Oh, and depending where you are you could be talking an 80odd mile round trip to Dumfries, don't even entertain notions of public transport.

I grew up in the central Borders and it was excellent. Melrose/Galashiels/Peebles and surrounding villages are very nice and often overlooked.

But it seem like a long way from Castle Douglas mainly due all those bleak hills around Newcastleton.

So why have you never turned up on a MNPR then?....

sorry man... er, no idea what MNPR is. Anyone care to explain?

weather? Edinburgh is the second driest place in the UK after Kent.

2nd driest place in the U.K?

Is this the fake news I've been hearing so much about?

edinburgh - average rainfall 700mm / year 120 days with rain and 1400 hrs sunshine
London - 550 mm rain, 105 rainy days, 1400 hrs sunshine
Manchester 870 mm rain. 150 rainy days, 1350 hrs sunshine
Cardiff 1150mm rain 150 rainy days, 1550 hrs sunshine

east lothian is significantly drier again

edinburgh - average rainfall 700mm / year 120 days with rain and 1400 hrs sunshine
London - 550 mm rain, 105 rainy days, 1400 hrs sunshine
Manchester 870 mm rain. 150 rainy days, 1350 hrs sunshine
Cardiff 1150mm rain 150 rainy days, 1550 hrs sunshine

And an east coast city is drier than west coast cities shocker.....

The UK has prevailing westerly winds which brings rain clouds in from the Atlantic. Ireland gets a lot of rain, then the remainder gets dumped on Manchester, Wales etc.

The west coast of Scotland does not have Ireland to get the worst of the rain, so gets pissed on.

As I said earlier it rains ALL the time. 🙂 Or at least feels like it and if you get a day outdoors when it doesn't rain, then it feels like a bonus.

MNPR = Monday night pub ride

The historical home is Prestwich but the rides move about. One day I may make one when work allows.

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/mnpr-–-monday-20th

My impression is totally different - I ride a bike most days and the number of times I get rained on a year is in single figures

I spend numerous nights camping usually on the west coast - been rained out once in 10 years

I spend numerous nights camping usually on the west coast - been rained out once in 10 years

Probably a pretty significant sampling bias there. Unless of course you choose your camping nights randomly rather than after viewing the forecast.

My impression is totally different - I ride a bike most days and the number of times I get rained on a year is in single figures

I spend numerous nights camping usually on the west coast - been rained out once in 10 years

Are you the opposite of Rob McKenna the Rain God??????

Single figures? Really?

Tulloch Bridge (Fort William)
Rainfall (mm) 1809.4
Days of rainfall >= 1 mm (days) 201.5

Oh indeed spin - but its just an example of how / why I really don't get this "rains all the time" nonsense

Parts of scotland are wetter than part of england, parts of england are wetter than parts of Scotland

I have lived for long periods in Glasgow, Manchester and Edinburgh. Edinburgh is by far the driest.

gobuchal - remember I live in Edinburgh This winter so far I have been rained on 3 times when commuting for example

I've just looked out the window and it's raining now. #realnews

That must prove something? 😉

Oh indeed spin

Met Office now on the #falsenews bandwagon.

I have lived for long periods in Glasgow, Manchester and Edinburgh. Edinburgh is by far the driest.

Obviously. It's in a ****ing rain shadow.

That's why Glasgow is wet and it rains ALL the time.

A Mate former coal miner from the black country with the accent to go with it has a favorite re-post(s) to those Scottish folk who like to tell him he should not be living and working near Castle Douglas. "I choose to live here because I love it".

A Mate former coal miner from the black country with the accent to go with it has a favorite re-post(s) to those Scottish folk who like to tell him he should not be living and working near Castle Douglas. "I choose to live here because I love it".

I suspect that's either a conversation that's happened once, or maybe even only ever in his head.

I live in Kinlochleven it rains a lot however it's the drivers that keep me off the A82 not the weather.

I live in Kinlochleven it rains a lot

I believe that when someone tells you to 'stick it where the sun don't shine' it is in fact Kinlochleven they are referring to.

No that's Glenrothes. Closest sunshine is apparently Leith. I could believe that.

Im in Dundee today and its like Mallorca 15° and sunny take back all i said about the place

If I was in your position terra, I'd be looking for somewhere around Penrith area, lots of nice wee villages, a bit cheaper than in the lakes or Dales, but near enough to be riding there all the time.

I love the lakes.

The sun does shine on Kinlochleven just not between Nov-Feb. 😀

Im in Dundee today and its like [s]Mallorca [/s] [b]Magaluff [/b]15° and sunny take back all i said about the place

@epicsteve. "You suspect", good for you.

Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire as its home but its lost its lustre recently with the oil bust.

Because as cyclists wind is annoying you might like this map of the UK.

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@epicsteve. "You suspect", good for you.

Thanks. My English mother lived in Scotland for 20+ years and rarely encountered any of that sort of bollocks so while I know that sort of thing does sometimes happen (about as often as anti-Scottish sentiment in England I suspect) I very, very much doubt it's that regular.

I live in England and have a Scottish accent (English mother/Scottish father) and really haven't encountered much in the way of racism - unless you count the very regular conversations that start with "That Nicola Sturgeon.." and then spin out into some very, very uneducated bollocks relating to why said person voted for Brexit.

Don't forget the SNP government forgetting it exists and moving everything down to the central belt.

Someone's been reading the daily mail.

Hardly Police call centers are to be shut in Aberdeen and Inverness, in 2017, that's actually a delay on the original plan. All work to be handled by the central belt. Similarly the Fire service call centers in those two locations are going in 2017 to be replaced by Dundee. And there are still concerns about the status of the Aberdeen Major Trauma Centre.

And lets not forget this great SNP quote: "The member just mentioned a crisis in the jobs in the North Sea and oil. There is no crisis."

Not that this would affect anyone moving to the Borders or North Wales mind.

Don't forget the SNP government forgetting it exists and moving everything down to the central belt.

Don't worry there's jack all jobs in the central belt these days either!

Rainfall, a picture paints a thousand blah

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The rain is fine in Glasgow, youse just need to man up!

It's dry about 2/3rd of the time, so youse can take yer negativity and ram it! 😆

The rain is fine in Glasgow, youse just need to man up!

It's dry about 2/3rd of the time, so youse can take yer negativity and ram it!

And, as you can see, the people in Glasgow are also very friendly! 🙂

😆 you do need to get to understand the nuances of the language, that's for sure.

😀

edinburgh - average rainfall 700mm / year 120 days with rain and 1400 hrs sunshine
London - 550 mm rain, 105 rainy days, 1400 hrs sunshine
Manchester 870 mm rain. 150 rainy days, 1350 hrs sunshine
Cardiff 1150mm rain 150 rainy days, 1550 hrs sunshine

[url= http://www.climatedata.eu/climate.php?loc=ukxx0052&lang=en ]http://www.climatedata.eu/climate.php?loc=ukxx0052&lang=en[/url]
[url= http://www.climatedata.eu/climate.php?loc=ukxx0092&lang=en ]http://www.climatedata.eu/climate.php?loc=ukxx0092&lang=en[/url]

184 rainy days in manchester
191 in Edinburgh
its colder and 100 hours less sunshine. in Edinburgh too.

I took my data from the met office!

Your data is certainly wrong - it does not rain more than half the days of the year in edinburgh and its certainly a lot less than manchester. I lived a decade in manchester and 2 decades in Edinburgh

Plus [b]201[/b] rainy days in Glasgow (same source)

Makes you think, when "unreliable sources" tell us that there are more rainy days in Manchester than Glasgow doesnt it!!

Facts, who needs them. 😉

there are a number of sites with the same 191 days rain data, but no reference.

However, the Royal Botannical Gardens Edinburgh have their own weather station.

Data is available here:
http://www.rbge.org.uk/science/plants-and-climate-change/edinburgh-weather-station

more relevantly, their extract "Some curiosities from the RBGE Inverleith weather station:
Data analyses from 1 January 1976 to 31 December 2014. "

States:

Days with no rain 41.1%
Days with 0.2mm or more 51.2%
Days with 1mm or more 36.0%
Days with 5mm or more 14.0%

Depending on your personal definition of "rain day", it suggests that IF rain days are consistently seasonally distributed* over the 38 yrs of the data set, that 214 days a year have "some" precipitation.

* and they may well not be, there may have been 4 yrs in the 70s in which it never stopped raining which will skew the data, unless they really do mean that in an average year, only 41% of days are dry....

Not forgetting that a day is 24hrs, and many incidents of precipitation will have been overnight. TJ may well be right anecdotally (with bias, natch) and statistically wrong at the same time, but they may not really be inconsistent depending on definitions.

http://www.climatedata.eu/climate.php?loc=ukxx0052&lang=en
http://www.climatedata.eu/climate.php?loc=ukxx0092&lang=en

184 rainy days in manchester
191 in Edinburgh
its colder and 100 hours less sunshine. in Edinburgh too.

I don't think that website is based on real observations, in fact it appears to have no sources at all and only exists as an advertising vessel, you'd be better off at http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/climate/

Which is where I got my data from iirc

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