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"Aye, England are rubbish!"

This is what I heard coming out of a 10 year's mouth whilst taking my daughter to her lovely (most of the time) Scottish school this morning.

Friendly banter or racist bigotry?

It is something I always ask myself when England play football and I have to endure the nonsense coming out of most of the locals' mouths.

Maybe I should just get a thicker skin?

Then again I console myself with the fact that the performance of the Scottish team would occupy a nano-second's worth of thinking time of an English person, laugh to myself and then go about my business!


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 8:33 am
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Maybe I should just get a thicker skin?

if you have chosen to live in Scotland then yes you should.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 8:35 am
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Maybe I should just get a thicker skin?

+1


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 8:37 am
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I would have employed an "Is this worth a post on the forum" filter too 🙄


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 8:37 am
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Looking at some of the teams that qualified, I find it hilarious that Scotland (and Wales) didn't make it in...


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 8:38 am
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You WERE rubbish against USA. Truth hurt does it?
Out of the mouths of babes etc 🙂


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 8:40 am
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I find it hilarious that Scotland (and Wales) didn't make it in...

In fairness, if Wales/Scotland/Norn Irn/ROI were playing in some of the other confederations, they'd qualify easily. It's qualifying from European groups that's most difficult.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 8:41 am
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At least we got as far as playing the USA...


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 8:45 am
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Maybe I should just get a thicker skin?

if you have chosen to live in Scotland then yes you should.


I classify myself as an economic refugee.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 8:45 am
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it was an uninspiring game, i will agree with that
most england fans expected/wanted to see a thrashing of the USA - not ranked far below england actually.

none of the 'top' teams have shone yet, cept maybe the dutch.


 
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You WERE rubbish against USA

[i]{insert country who should have done better}[/i] were rubbish against [i]{insert country they should have beaten}[/i]

Story of the World Cup?


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 8:49 am
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They probably will, because we are biz.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:04 am
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It is something I always ask myself when England play football and I have to endure the nonsense coming out of most of the locals' mouths.

As a Scotsman In England I have to endure this the other way round from the Englands fans .. a grown man cired in the pub when they drew with the USA. When Croatia knocked them out [Euoros] you would have thought the sun had not risen. Constant refrences to 1966 and the eternal we would have won the world cup but for..ronaldo getting rooney sent off, Beckham getting sent off etc it is never finished with but we were not good enough.
Learn to live with it or move or take the pi55


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:05 am
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Well at least England are capable of getting somewhere in the WC.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:08 am
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[i]"Aye, England are rubbish!"[/i]

How is a statement of fact racist?


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:12 am
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"Algeria are going to smash England 5-0!"

the correct response is to take up the wager

course, you'd have to bet something recognised as currency, maybe a deep-fried pat of butter or some tennents super 😉


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:13 am
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Football a sport for people who spectate but don't play. The more drunk you are the more enjoyable it is.

Scotlands population is a lot less than Englands. They have less of a pool of talent to draw on. Their team isn't as good, which makes sense.

As for Englands chances of winning the world cup? who ever is the best team wins and that's only fair.

On the plus side it gives all the bored people something to talk about, not sure about letting events you have no control over dictate your state of mind.

That said sh1t to do I'm off.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:17 am
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At least we got as far as playing the USA...

😆


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:20 am
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You've got wound up about what a 10 yr old said?

If it makes you feel any better, the 10 yr old will never make it as a pundit. I can't see algeria scorng more than 3.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:23 am
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It is something I always ask myself when England play football and I have to endure the nonsense coming out of most of the locals' mouths.

Just wait until Andy Murray plays at Wimbeldon, then you can adopt your own racist bigotry along with the rest of the STW forum.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:25 am
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[i] racist bigotry?[/i]

WTF?! cos he slagged off a football team??!
What a bloody stupid suggestion.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:26 am
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a grown man cried in the pub when they drew with the USA.

😯

Gazza's got a lot to answer for.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:27 am
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[i]It is something I always ask myself when England play football and I have to endure the nonsense coming out of most of the locals' mouths.[/i]

Maybe rather than get a thicker skin you need to lighten up, get a sense of humour, etc.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:28 am
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or racist bigotry?

It's not Racism unless you're a different Race anyway...


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:34 am
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Well at least England are capable of getting somewhere in the WC.

The quarter finals? 😛

The big difference is, I think, that mental cringe that resulted from 1978 (when tens of thousands of people [b]paid[/b] to see Ally's Army off at Hampden - thought try finding anyone who'll admit to having been there) means that when we do qualify, there's an attitude of 'we'll not get very far, so we may as well enjoy it while it lasts'. As England aren't very good (though in fact they do better than statistics would suggest they should - see [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-England-Lose-phenomena-explained/dp/0007301111 ][i]Why England Lose[/i][/url]), it's perplexing to the Scots mind as to why, every time & despite lots of evidence to the contrary & a huge injury list, you think you've got a cat's chance of winning and are then disappointed to get dumped out by Germany.

Andy


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:38 am
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Not racist, sporting banter - get over it. Next.


 
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[i]thought try finding anyone who'll admit to having been there[/i]

Raises hand, and I'll never forget it.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:39 am
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Well at least England are capable of getting somewhere in the WC.

The quarter finals?

Yes, that's normally as far we get and what you would expect a team that is ranked around 8th in the world to come.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:43 am
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It is something I always ask myself when England play football and I have to endure the nonsense coming out of most of the locals' mouths.

Just wait until Andy Murray plays at Wimbeldon, then you can adopt your own racist bigotry along with the rest of the STW forum.

Andy Murray makes me laugh.

I notice how this World Cup he has decided to publicly support the England team rather than make the same mistake he did 4 years ago.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:46 am
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Andy Murray makes me laugh.

I notice how this World Cup he has decided to publicly support the England team rather than make the same mistake he did 4 years ago.

Well I havent forgotten that and Andy "big gob" Murray will always be an enormous spanner. Fact.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:55 am
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Even Alec Salmond wished the England team well!

Bet he had to go and wash his mouth out with soap afterwards to remove the bitter taste from his mouth...


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 9:56 am
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Andy Murray makes me laugh.

I notice how this World Cup he has decided to publicly support the England team rather than make the same mistake he did 4 years ago

this is what happened

"The journalist said to me 'So Andy are you going to be supporting Scotland in the World Cup?', knowing that Scotland hadn't qualified and he started laughing.

"So he asked me who I would be supporting in the World Cup, and I said 'Anyone but England ha-ha' and all of a sudden it's the biggest story ever."


banter quite clearly and just more evidence of the anglo centric nature of reporting no one ever says about the english reporters [who accpets it was a joke and says it is a non story] initial dig do they? [ tongue firmly in cheek to avoid similiar reaction]


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 10:33 am
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So what are people to think/say? Ohh, you are so funny Andy, it has always been in your nature to be so light-hearted and witty - stop it, you are killing me.

Or

Jeebus Christ, here he goes again, that miserable, sour-faced personality-free tennis bloke is again showing what a misery he is - stop it, or I will kill you.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 10:44 am
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depends on how much sleep the twins have had and how much calpol you have drunk 😉

No clearly they should ignore it and just keep calling him an English hater 🙄


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 10:50 am
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So what are people to think/say?

Well maybe people could actually engage their brain and think that the press may have taking the comment out of context or is that too much to ask? No, you're right mindlessly swallowing whatever the appears in a newspaper is a far better response.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 11:17 am
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No clearly they should ignore it and just keep calling him an English hater

I believe he's achieved a consistently higher world ranking than the England team has in recent years and has reached tournament [b]finals[/b] 🙂


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 11:29 am
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As a Scotsman In England I have to endure this the other way round from the Englands fans

You don't sound very Scottish 🙂

The Andy Murray thing was massively overblown and the OP needs to get a grip though.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 11:32 am
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My point being was that he isn't known for his witty nature so when he says something like that, it *can* be easy for people to assume he was being serious.

However, if it was someone like Frankie Boyle, people may consider that he may have been joking.

And besides - many people do believe that he did actually mean it and it was just thinly-veiled as a joke.

Now pass me the Calpol...


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 11:41 am
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And besides - many people do believe that he did actually mean it and it was just thinly-veiled as a joke.

You sound like you need convincing yourself m_f 🙂


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 11:45 am
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You don't sound very Scottish

I moved here when I was 7 and none of you lot could understand me so I lost the accent.
many people do believe that he did actually mean it and it was just thinly-veiled as a joke

You are right there are many idiots out there


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 11:51 am
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There's a thin line between success and failure.

It's called Hadrian's Wall.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 11:53 am
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Hadrian's Wall.

Quite far south of the border IIRC?


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 11:58 am
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You sound like you need convincing yourself m_f

To be honest I am not sure where I stand on the matter. I would like to think it was a joke and that he really wanted England to do well but, as is shown by many Scots on here, it wouldn't be an unusual opinion for a Scot to have.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 11:58 am
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I think you are likely to find that most Scots on here do not have that opinion. In fact the last survey done about Scottish support of England showed that about a quarter said that they would support England, thesame said that they wouldn't but the largest single group said that they didn't care one way or another.

But hey, don't let a small matter like facts get in the way of your biggoted opions.


 
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EDIT - not getting further into this pointless argument.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 2:08 pm
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I can't see algeria scorng more than 3.

Racist.


 
Posted : 17/06/2010 2:16 pm