[Closed] Advice on drink driving etc

You phone it in to the police, no ifs, no buts. Surprised you even need to ask the question.

I'm concerned about any repercussions and the consequences of my actions.

I'd more more concerned about the consequence of your inaction

Your right in wanting to tell someone.

My first port of call would be Crimestoppers, that way the issue out of your hands and hopefully the Police will follow it up, if not direct to the Police. Does he/she drive for a living?

Shop him.

It's a no brainer.

Call the police and let them know.

You may be feeling bad but the innocent that have avoided meeting them in a collision, their relatives, friends, the drink drivers family and friends together with the emergency services will thank

Any repercussions for your colleague of shopping him now will be significantly better than those if he gets caught or kills someone.

STW making innocent people the villans yet again.

**** them. Report them before they kill someone.

STW making innocent people the villans yet again

Where are they doing that, I don't understand? If you are being sarcastic I missed it

STW making innocent people the villans yet again

What?

Op, report him/her.

If the guy was out stringing barbed wire across trails you'd grass him up in a heartbeat.

It amounts to the same thing.

Irresponsible, selfish person knowingly does stupid, illegal thing which is likely to injure or kill others.

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/give-information/rewards/

Nice little earner 🙂

I'm not sure that I could resolve it with my conscience if I hadn't tried to stop someone from drink driving who'd had an accident that harmed themselves or anyone else.

There's an older guy who regularly parks in my street - I live right in centre of town - who quite obviously has some sort of degenerative illness, takes him a good 15 minutes or so to get out the car and away, one arm shaking badly and the other arm limply hanging by his side.

I doubt he's fit to take make a quick response in driving situations, but is it my responsiblity to question this?.

I had a similar siuation a few years back as the OP, guy I worked with was an alcoholic, and drove to work. After many arguments with my conscience, I did nothing in the end. He's since lost his licence due to taking seizures/fits, but I still think that I didn't do the right thing...

but an acquaintance directly through my job.

Depending on what that actually means - a fellow employee - a customer or client - your boss.... is there any channel through work that can be used to address it if it means that as well as being drunk while driving they're also drunk while at work?

It may be a channel through which the person can be deterred from drinking/driving rather than having to be caught. It also shares the burden of 'knowing'.

You've got to shop them.

I grassed my next-door neighbour a few years ago, I don't regret it for a second, even though she'd dead now.

Better them inconvenienced by having to take the bus for a year, than a family dead because they hit them head on pissed up.

There are things you just don't do. Allowing that behaviour to continue is one of them.

Better to lose his licence than lose his licence plus extended jailtime for manslaughter.

We had a guy at work telling us all he was going to drive home whilst swaying from side to side.

We asked to see his keys grabbed them and put them behind the bar. He was told in no uncertain terms it was a one time deal.

report him before he hurts someone or worse

There's a bloke near me who takes his shotgun out and just randomly shoots it into the fields over the back of the houses.

he hasn't hit anyone yet so I suppose it's OK, or should i shop him for it in case one day he does?

There's a bloke near me who takes his shotgun out and just randomly shoots it into the fields over the back of the houses.

he hasn't hit anyone yet so I suppose it's OK, or should i shop him for it in case one day he does?

Won't anyone think of the Baby Robins?

There's an older guy who regularly parks in my street - I live right in centre of town - who quite obviously has some sort of degenerative illness, takes him a good 15 minutes or so to get out the car and away, one arm shaking badly and the other arm limply hanging by his side.

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I know someone who is regularly drink driving and also taking drugs & driving.

2 totally different things.

1 is obviously, it seems, breaking the law & is unfit to drive.

The other - how can you tell if he's fit or not?

 

Personally I would warn him that I have no other option than to report him if he continues.

It may be a channel through which the person can be deterred from drinking/driving rather than having to be caught.

Crimestoppers. Give the registration number and what you suspect is happening, if possible where the chap travels to and from and at what times. The car will be picked up on number plate recognition system and stopped.
He could kill your or my kids whilst impaired.

Its not a friend or a family member, but an acquaintance directly through my job.

It happens to be my boss, which makes it harder. I know its wrong, full stop, but I just wanted to see what my options would be..

Personally I would warn him that I have no other option than to report him if he continues

and cross your fingers that his next pissed journey isn't the one where he kills someone

Have done this a couple of times whilst in pubs, seeing someone drink 5+ pints of Stella then get in their car. One chap I still see driving around, I must go go back to that pub....

Shop him.

He's a no brainer.

Personally I would warn him that I have no other option than to report him if he continues

Shop him in, he gets caught, gets banned, gets sacked, you get promotion to fill his vacant post. Other road users are safer. Everyone's a winner.

One tiny point

Is his drinking actually impairing his ability to drive ?

The drink drive limit is set as a safe limit for a 8 stone 18 year.
Isn't that limit just red tape which needs sweeping away to save capitalism

It happens to be my boss,

I sort of suspected that by the way you wrote it in the OP - Boss as in line manager? Boss as in The Big Boss?

What are the circumstances in which its apparent he's drinking and driving? Is he just telling you about it? Are you having after work drinks and he's having one too many? Is he staggering across the carpark in the morning?

With something as dangerous as driving and that is not under the influence of alcohol/drugs it must be a call to the police.

Hopefully it won't be one journey too late.

samunkim - Member
One tiny point

Is his drinking actually impairing his ability to drive ?

The drink drive limit is set as a safe limit for a 8 stone 18 year.
Isn't that limit just red tape which needs sweeping away to save capitalism

Obviously trolling........Or really daft?

can you get his job if he then gets fired?

Boss or not, Crimestoppers, do it anonymously and feel better that at least you tried.

For some reason the higher people get in a job the more they think that the laws that govern the plebs don't apply as much to them because, you know, they're important.

In other words, **** him

As someone who has been on the receiving end of being hit by a drunk driver, having to give my own mother mouth to nose (jaw completely smashed) and then watching her and one of my brothers having to be cut out the car, I don't understand why you are asking on here rather than stating that you've already informed the police as the person is a selfish prick who doesn't car how many lives he may ruin.

From RoSPA

In 2015, provisional figures show that 220 people were killed, 1, 160 were seriously injured and there were over 8,000 casualties in total in drink drive accidents.

Although the level of drinking and driving has dropped dramatically over the last three decades, over 200 people are still killed in drink drive accidents every year.

Despite 30 years of drink drive education and enforcement, over 70,000 people are still caught drink driving annually.

Often it is an innocent person who suffers, not the driver who is over the drink drive limit. In 2014, 70 pedestrians were killed or seriously injured by drink drivers, as were 340 car passengers. 40 children were killed or seriously injured by drink drivers that year.

One tiny point

Is his drinking actually impairing his ability to drive ?

The drink drive limit is set as a safe limit for a 8 stone 18 year.
Isn't that limit just red tape which needs sweeping away to save capitalism

Personally, I think the law should be tighter than that. If someone is driving, they shouldn't be drinking any alcohol. Then there's absolutely no doubt if alcohol is impairing the ability to drive.

Yes, report him. I did the same to my neighbour, I didn't warn him beforehand but I did tell him the next time I saw him.

Nothing came of it as he was never actually caught in the act but he did stop driving for about 8-9 months until he moved away, according to his ex wife he then bought a sports car. The drinking saw him off for good about a year after that.

There's not many things I have zero tolerance for but drink driving is one.

Do you think he's an alcoholic and struggling or just a self-entitled c*** who doesn't give a crap about the danger (to others) of drink/drug driving?

If the former then I can see the dilemma, the guy needs help despite the fact he's endangering others so just shopping him could cause a downward spiral in his life. Not sure what else you can do though, trying to write an anonymous note and leave it on his desk is likely to back-fire so ultimately shopping him anonymously might be the only option that doesn't end up with flak for you.

If it's the latter then shop him in a heartbeat and let the crows peck out his eyes (or something else suitably medieval).

As someone who has been on the receiving end of being hit by a drunk driver, having to give my own mother mouth to nose (jaw completely smashed) and then watching her and one of my brothers having to be cut out the car, I don't understand why you are asking on here rather than stating that you've already informed the police as the person is a selfish prick who doesn't car how many lives he may ruin.

wholy crap that's frighting 🙁

Personally, I think the law should be tighter than that. If someone is driving, they shouldn't be drinking any alcohol. Then there's absolutely no doubt if alcohol is impairing the ability to drive.

Report him. Now.

pat12 - Member

wholy crap that's frighting

I was only 17 at the time and just been taught first aid in my basic training a week or two before. Never thought I'd have to practice it on my own family.

one call to crimestoppers done.

Just report him there's no excuse.

[quote=FuzzyWuzzy ]Do you think he's an alcoholic and struggling or just a self-entitled c*** who doesn't give a crap about the danger (to others) of drink/drug driving?

There is a bit of a difference, but the correct solution to both is the same. In any case, being an alcoholic is no excuse for getting in a car when you've been drinking - if you need a drink that much then you need to find some other form of transport.

I doubt he's fit to take make a quick response in driving situations, but is it my responsiblity to question this?.

It's not your responsibility to make a judgement on whether they're fit to drive. It is however your responsibility to notify someone who is qualified to make that decision.

Same with the OP's question. You're not the one judging him, you're simply flagging up a potential issue. If he's not doing anything wrong, he'll not be charged with an offence.

I tried to shop the MiL. The police were disinterested to say the least. I was furious with them having convinced Mrs Danny it was the right thing to do and they couldn't give a toss...

I was going to ask, if I shopped my neighbour for driving drunk frequently, what would actually happen?

If you feel awkward doing it as he's your boss then pm me the location and the registration and I'll happily call them for you.. Drink driving annoys the shit out of me..

At least then he's hopefully on the radar.

Serious offer..

Wow, quite a few posts. I kind of knew the answer, but as in real life, things are not always as straight forward as they should be...

If you feel awkward doing it as he's your boss then pm me the location and the registration and I'll happily call them for you.. Drink driving annoys the shit out of me..

At least then he's hopefully on the radar.

Serious offer..

Cheers for the offer, someone I know has also offered to do it.....

The guy is an utter knob and I have struggled to find anything positive about the guy, so it should be easy to report him....

Drunk driver alcoholic, nurse, on her way to counselling - ran over a woman and her two grandchildren in our village, she got 8yrs in jail, lost her job etc

You'll be doing your boss and many others a favour by dobbing them in believe me

simple. Shop them to the police, police put a marker on the car and keep an eye out, this might achieve nothing. or, they pull them over and breathalyse them, they might be clear, but this might put the frighteners on them to stop drinking and driving, or they blow positive, in which case the police have caught a criminal and they face the repercussions of their crime.

You won't know this I suppose, but what if he has previous convictions for same? Would it make a difference to your decision? Why?

I used to deliver drink/drive programmes and its amazing how many people persist with this offence in spite of previous punishment. Sounds obvious but one of the key determinants is basically: 'attitude to the drink drive law". Most people who get done for drink driving know the law is sensible and right and they were foolish and wrong. People who do it repeatedly actually privately believe,that the law's a bit daft really and they actually are allright when they drive. They won't express their view outloud because obvs they know they'll get harangued. But their behaviour is an expression of the belief. It might apply to others but actually, it doesn't apply to them because 'they don't feel drunk' look at the evidence: how many times they've 'got away with it' etc. etc.
In the end It often comes down to either giving up driving or giving up drinking. Or jail.
They never give up drinking.
It's interesting to note -and don't reach for the pitchforks here - there was a statistical study done showing that the chances of killing someone for drink driving are actually quite low: 14 000 to 1. This data is quite sound and readily measurable : total number of drink drive convictions compared to number of drink drive convictions involving fatality. Obvs this is not a justification, but its the experience of 'getting away with it' that reinforces the behaviour.
What therefore is your ethical responsibility in this situation? You choose.

Shp him

I have shopped a local guy who used to drink and drive. The cops were happy i did so and went and waited for him on his way home from the pub.

Good background:

zanelad - Member
STW making innocent people the villans yet again.

You will do him a massive favour.

Shop him now.

I'm struggling to understand what this actually means; that is, I understand the individual words, but the sequence they've been put in just doesn't parse.
Can someone translate for me, please?

Count Zero, I share your difficulty and sympathise with it. Adopting the very best of Famous Five (c. E. Blyton) detection techniques I wondered if the message might actually be in a 'reverse code' and make sense if transcribed backwards:

sniaga tey snalliv eht elpoep tnecconni gnikam WTS

Alas, it still remains impenetrable.

The timbre of the language does suggest perhaps an ancient Inuit tribe, or even an ancient African tongue, perhaps from the Troll Valley region?

Call police and flag it and also make hr aware if they work at Sam emplacement as you...more to hopefully get some support and assistance to help them to stop.

There really is no ambiguity about the matter. [b]You have a moral obligation to report him.[/b]

The poor chap is possibly suffering from stress over work and his drinking is helping him cope with the strains of his job,possibly his partner is getting upset at his long hours,and giving him greif at home, his kids have become unruly as he doesnt have time to spend time with them,he works hard to support his wife and kids, and give them a good standard of living , his heavy drinking all helps above relieve his stresses.

Thats what drunks usually say.

Then due to his drinking he injures or kills someone, real and deep stress then affects all those involved, those who didnt report him, those who could have warned him about his drinking etc.

Just report him and get the "piss head" off the road. Every little helps.