[Closed] Adaptive STW

[quote=chipster ]This might have been asked further up, but, where's the profile button gone?
It's the green one with your name on it in the "hamburger" menu

[quote=bearnecessities ]Sorry if it has been asked, but is there any way to view the 'classic' site from a mobile?
(POS iPhone if it matters)
Chrome on Android has a "request desktop site" setting. Might be something in your browser?

[quote=scotroutes ]No one has complained about the lost Share button..

I don't seem to have lost a Share button here 😉 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/singletrack-world-forum-e/cpgdlmbifgbhcoigdoeoooakijdionop?hl=en-GB

(it seems to still work fine - though I really must get around to adding multi-quoting as it seems it will never happen otherwise)

@bear

Hold down the refresh button in the URL bar. A menu will pop up from bottom of the screen. Select request desktop version or words to that effect.

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This might have been asked further up, but, where's the profile button gone?

It's in the menu icon (3 lines) at the top of the page

Cougar - Moderator
Constructive feedback good.

Unconstructive complaining bad.

I did have a bit of a whine, purely out of frustration. It was an alternative to throwing my phone across the waiting room.

Here's some constructive feedback instead.

I don't have a premium subscription because I quite enjoy the ads. I love to hear about beautiful Russian single ladies who would like to date me or how I could blind a bear with a tactical torch. It makes a refreshing break in the puns if I'm honest and I like to think I'm doing my bit for Marks advertising revenue.
My enjoyment of the ads has been lessened however because I can no longer view the one at the top of the screen because it is obscured by the fixed banner and I can no longer view the one at the bottom of the screen due to it being semi concealed beneath the massive floating sidebar.

This, combined with the headache inducing mixture of inappropriately huge or tiny fonts has led to me having a sub-optimal user experience and complaining about it for the first time ever.

I don't want the old forum back and I'm not demanding a personalised version. I only ask that whoever is mucking about with it tries it out on iPhone before calling it good.

Merry Christmas.

The 'request a desktop site' option solves alot of viewing problems for me. Although it does leave me with really small text and having to zoom in and out more - but alot better than without that option ticked.

Why the change to it all?

Now I am on mobile it's a bit weird not seeing poster or last post date.

Also, text input box doesn't scale to screen.

Bit all over the place to be honest.

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BTW I didn't really comment before on the changes as I thought I'd wait until I also experienced the desktop version. For me at least it's a big improvement on before - sure I miss seeing the thread starter and time (though that's not a huge deal for me), but being able to just read threads on mobile without having to zoom is great. Don't seem to have any of the problems others are getting, though is it just non-Ps having issues? I'm on android 5.1ish

Constructive feedback good.

Unconstructive complaining bad.

My comment about whingers was aimed at the entitled pricks lecturing STW about how people don't want to see ads these days, I should have been clearer about that!

Oh, and the ****s saying stuff like "how about you test it properly next time, bozos?"

People can be so rude on the internet, eh?

😉

Also, text input box doesn't scale to screen.

It's weird. It does until I activate the text box, and it zooms in and breaks the wrapping.

iOS 10/iPhone SE/Safari

Thanks Scotroutes and Jamba, just that ****in banner that's taking up 10% of an already small screen, now. 😕
WTF would I want that for?
Walks off to kick the cat. 😉

Proper quoting as currently it is a joke - on Mac you have to even add an extra space before you paste the quote as the forum deletes the last ] if you don't and thats regardless of the browser in use.
I've never heard that complaint before - can anyone else confirm?

I've come to this a bit late in the day, but it was also always an issue for me for a long time on my phone (chrome on android), I always assumed it was an android issue rather than forum as stated above, but hasn't happened in recent months and worth pointing out this is the only forum I use regularly, so still no idea if it was a forum or OS issue.

Generally, the only issue I have as a 50yr old bordering on probably needing glasses, but currently able to function in life without glasses, text sizing is generally about ok, apart from on the occasions when quoting makes text appear too small. However, I always want to have the option to zoom text (early mornings, my eyes seem to be worse). Otherwise, no other issues as yet.

I've never heard that complaint before - can anyone else confirm?

Both brackets work for me (Chrome/Android and Chrome/Win10). I've never seen that missing bracket problem on any combination of browser/OS. Are you sure you don't have one of the square brackets highlighted when you press PASTE and it's that action overwriting it - or do you press Quote, then PASTE, then press /Quote?

Are you sure you don't have one of the square brackets highlighted when you press PASTE and it's that action overwriting it - or do you press Quote, then PASTE, then press /Quote?

Just quoted your text, let's see what happens. This is in Safari on iPad, all text looks fine.

Jamie, thanks for guide. However although it pops up with that option as you showed, it just loads the same page!

Gotta say, I really don't like it on mobile.

Lovely shade of green though.

In my case, curser placed next to [*/quote*], long press to bring up 'paste', ] is auto highlighted, so disappears when you press 'paste' and has to be rewritten. As I stated above, in my case, it stopped happening in recent times, but I can't state a specific date it stopped or OS update or whatever. Personally I never really considered it a big deal, probably because I was aware of it every time, so could act on it i.e. rewrite it.

Lovely shade of green though.

+1

Hmm, top few posts on iPad are overlapped and hidden by adverts down the right hand side.

edenvalleyboy - Member 
The 'request a desktop site' option solves alot of viewing problems for me. Although it does leave me with really small text and having to zoom in and out more - but alot better than without that option ticked.

Why the change to it all?

Adaptive design or "responsive" as we call it, idea being that the site should scale to a readable and useable size and layout for any device.

Resorting to the desktop version just means a phone is going to render it the old annoying way where you have to zoom in and scroll about. Not user friendly. Nice to finally see a responsive layout, if perhaps some issues for some.

Seems to work okay on Windows 10 mobile though. If fruity phones can't cope, well that's their problem 😛

[quote=B.A.Nana ]In my case, curser placed next to [*/quote*], long press to bring up 'paste', ] is auto highlightedAh, right. A long press for me in the blank space doesn't auto-highlight that ]

probably mentioned already whats with all the white!!! Give my eyes a break

P off?

The overlap problem/bug is only in landscape mode, portrait mode is fine

Like it. Great improvement on android mobile.

Good work!

[quote=scotroutes ]Are you sure you don't have one of the square brackets highlighted when you press PASTE and it's that action overwriting it

...and right there you demonstrate one of the advantages of proper quoting rather than copy/paste

so will the crap version still be here in the morning?

Ok so great job on updating first off. Good effort getting this far. Some bugs...

- can't zoom so it's all a bit Fisher Price.
- Can't see last page of threads so am having to load more pages than I want to.
- can't get between bike/chat with one click. More loading.

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Then it displays like this... I find myself backing away from the phone to try to make it comfortable to look at.

Chrome on android

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I've gotten in the habit of writing a full stop before I long press and paste now to get rid of the disappearing bracket ting. Easier to find than a square bracket on my Android.
Thought it was only me who it happened to. 🙂

The whole thing keeps flashing, posts disappear then reappear, the CRC adverts throughout the page are f***ing awful. I'm out.

Another thought, the main menu navigation on mobile is in the furthest corner away for 90% of the population.

It's not a nice user experience to shimmy the phone to get to the main menu.

the CRC adverts throughout the page

Why are you getting adverts as a [P] member? Have you not switched them off in your account settings?

Ahh, the great STW MAWCB poster cull working well then 😆

All the stw Dev should take from 99% of "complaints" is some people can't handle change

Well I've only had a quick look but it seems good on my android phone, but on Android tablet there's a lot of white space and I can't zoom....I hate not being able to zoom as my eyesight gets worse and worse. (Opera browser)

I can handle good change but not being able to zoom on my ipad mini is a pain in the arse.
My android is OK but I preferred the old forum. On my mac book I think I prefer the new one.

All the stw Dev should take from 99% of "complaints" is some people can't handle change

Idea- currently when shortening the urls for mobile you remove all of the page links if there is more than one page. How about leaving us the last page link only so we can go to the start of the thread by clicking on the thread title and the end of the thread by clicking on the last page link

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Android tablet here, adverts and news bit on RHS now covers posts so can't read! Still zoom issue. No different landscape or portrait.

They just need to change the viewport meta tag to bring back zoom

All the stw Dev should take from 99% of "complaints" is some people can't handle change

Sound like the words of a management consultant/organisational change consultant 😉

Change is great as long as it's for the better.

On the mobile-oriented site the user experience has gone backwards.

Desktop version works well for me on safari/Mac. Not tried on Windows/chrome...

If I force desktop site on android/chrome then it all works much better.

STW must have employed the same website people as Smile Bank did.

kayak23 - Member
I've gotten in the habit of writing a full stop before I long press and paste now to get rid of the disappearing bracket ting. Easier to find than a square bracket on my Android.
Thought it was only me who it happened to.

Obviously not - still doing it too.
Regardless of touchpad, mouse, trackpad or browser

Argh, no! So this is an actual thing. Thought something was wrong with my phone yesterday. Haven't read the whole thread but why has this happened? Different text sizes, can't zoom, ads in the middle of threads, having to click about 4 different things to change from one forum to the other, etc. It all worked fine as it was! It's like when supermarkets change things around, it's annoying and unnecessary. It's not about not liking change, why change something just for the sake of it, or am I missing something?

There's one bonus with this. I won't be wasting so much time on stw as it's unusable on my phone now.

+1 for the ads blocking / covering half of the text on posts (iPad/Chrome).

No one has complained about the lost Share button.

In fact nobody could even be moved to comment on your comment. Sums that one up I think....

STW's userbase isn't likely to spawn the next "man punches kangeroo in the face" as we'd just try to have a reasonable conversation about returning the dog. Or give up and go for a pie before writing the dog off as old-tech and fitting a new boost dog.

These green buttons are actually interesting me: Why the colour, it can't be an accident? So is SW is going to start using Pantone 4242 ["Mushy Pea"] as their corporate colour? It's a bit northern-specific eh?

Relax.

hammyuk - Member
kayak23 - Member
I've gotten in the habit of writing a full stop before I long press and paste now to get rid of the disappearing bracket ting. Easier to find than a square bracket on my Android.
Thought it was only me who it happened to.
Obviously not - still doing it too.
Regardless of touchpad, mouse, trackpad or browser

I'd tentatively suggest it might be the android OS, only because mine was doing it, but stopped a month or two ago. What android version are you currently on?, mine is 6.0.1

Idea- currently when shortening the urls

Personally I'd prefer it if the 'Pages:' list was

1 ,prev, current, nxt, last, jump to: _____

But this green is a consolation meantime 🙂

I don't appear to be suffering the same problems as many. I use a mix of devices.

On 2 windows laptops (one W8, the other W10) and using Chrome, the desktop site doesn't appear very different than 2 days ago.

On mobile devices - Chrome on Android the mobile version generally OK (the variability in text sizes a little odd); and on my iPad2 it seems to work - I am certainly not getting the issues that many have raised.

I'm not a Premium member, so don't think that has an impact.

However I have never posted from a mobile device, so not idea if that experience has changed (for many, it would appear so)

[quoteB.A.Nana - Member
hammyuk - Member
kayak23 - Member
I've gotten in the habit of writing a full stop before I long press and paste now to get rid of the disappearing bracket ting. Easier to find than a square bracket on my Android.
Thought it was only me who it happened to.
Obviously not - still doing it too.
Regardless of touchpad, mouse, trackpad or browser
I'd tentatively suggest it might be the android OS, only because mine was doing it, but stopped a month or two ago. What android version are you currently on?, mine is 6.0.1

This is what happens if I just C&P without un-highlighting the last ]

On Mac - I never bother even attempting to C&P on the phone - EVER its that bad.

Scared of change????

Alternative view, don't accept poor standards...

There's one bonus with this. I won't be wasting so much time on stw as it's unusable on my phone now.

I am one of the biggest moaners when it comes to STW's IT practices, but you should really say why you can't use it......

....but then I guess why should you. As STW seem to be carrying out a live test with no warning, no thread specifically created for bug reports and only Cougar seems to be trying to engage with the users.

All the stw Dev should take from 99% of "complaints" is some people can't handle change

Yeah. That's exactly what is happening here.

Comforting to discover this morning that "Remember me" is as rock solid a promise as ever it was.

@hammyuk To quote I copy whatever text then click the "Quote" button which gives me this:

[b][ quote ][/b]

I then paste in the text I've copied to give this:

[b][ quote ]Quoted text[/b]

then click the "Quote" button again to give:

[b][ quote ]Quoted text[ /quote ][/b]

I never have the problem of anything in the destination text box being highlighted.

no thread specifically created for bug reports

As far as I'm aware, the dev(s) are actively reviewing what's being discussed on this one. I agree that an 'official' one probably should've been created, but this is serving that purpose for now.

I've never had a popular thread before.

I find more it odd not seeing when the last post was made now.

But in a galaxy note 5 it is behaving fine for me, although there was an earlier menu that was a bit smaller that I liked more.

I never have the problem of anything in the destination text box being highlighted.

More weird behaviour here.

Using the desktop site on Win 7 / IE if I click into a thread from the forum and then use the back button on the browser to return to the forum menu, it takes me back to a (presumably cached ) version of the menu from yesterday where page 7 of this thread was at the top.
Didn't do it before and I've tried to replicate the same behaviour on other sites with no success.

Also, sometimes I can't get my printer to work. 😉

On Android mobile you can't jump to the main forum overview. Just back to chat and bike (depending on the post)

Although you could go through the pop out menu at the top but that's rubbish

Is there a RSS feed for the forum that's not been activated? Or perhaps (longshot) it's compatible with the list on the following link as [url= https://www.tapatalk.com/start-here.php ]Tapatalk[/url] would solve a lot of the mobile issues.

With regards to moving the forum over to a different platform, it wouldn't take a mysql specialist that long to import the database into the new platform. The most popular forum platforms already have an importer that could fairly easily be modifed to import your database. I'm no specialist but have done this in the past in about a day of ball ache and that was with a forum a ton more complex than what we have here. I can help out if needed, just ask.

Ads are still covering the right hand side of the screen, on an iPad mini. Still no zoom.

If you haven't seen it, Mark's just posted an update.

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/website-redesign-update

(which leaves me with a quandary as it's a duplicate £$%^ing thread...)

I posted this on the "Forum on iPad" thread but it's worth doing just to make sure that you are getting all the new resources and not any from the old site. Looking at the source it *looks like* the main stuff is versioned but I don't have the source of the old site to compare.

To clear your cache:
on Windows is Ctrl +F5
on Mac it's Cmd + Opt + R
On iOS there's a couple of ways: go to Settings, Safari, Advanced, Website Data then find STW and clear the data (this will include login data) or force quit Safari (click the home button, then double-click the home button, press and hold the Safari icon in the multitasking bar, then tap the red dot), it appears that Safari will clear its cache. But this will clear the entire cache, not just a single page

For me personally the forum is too bright especially after last nights xmas work do.

There's an extension for chrome to turn the brightness down (adjustable) if anyone is interested...

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[url= https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dark-reader/eimadpbcbfnmbkopoojfekhnkhdbieeh/related?hl=en ]Dark Reader[/url]

(Can't remember if I said this in this or the other thread)

My gripes:
(On mobile)
No OP details on the main page (for deciding wether or not I want to read a thread)
No 'last poster' details
Thread titles cropped to...
No jump to most recent post.

Not the end of the world, but not perfect. I don't have a problem with the adapt to fit but most (all?) devices have a zoom in/out function, so is it necessary, if it means cutting content?

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