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Ooh, lovely. Now, for the 90% of the user population that use Android and Windows

I dont have any issues in with explorer on my PC in a wider window, the issues seem to be the narrow window/mobile style format. Font size, smiles, header banner, etc.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 11:55 am
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Ooh, lovely. Now, for the 90% of the user population that use Android and Windows..
Back of the queue mate. Mark has stats showing that STW users favour Apple products.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 11:56 am
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Widen the window to 1000px (which on my monitor is about half the overall display width) and you'll get the desktop version

On my laptop it needs to be at least 3/4 of the screen width to get "desktop" which is much wider than I usually want the browser. In mobile mode the different format isn't a problem but the monstrous font size definitely is.

The other thing is that (logged in as premier) in desktop mode 1/3 of the window is taken up by the blank strip down the RHS where the ads aren't, which I can't get rid of becase it switches to mobile when I squeeeze the browser window down...


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 11:59 am
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Mark has stats showing that STW users favour Apple products.

Never ask a man if he prefers Apple products; if he does prefer Apple products, he'll tell you


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:02 pm
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Was just thinking it looks pretty good on my old iPad, but the font for posts is a bit too large... but Scotroute's last post has a completely different size font (too small) to all the other posts!
(The frozen Singletrack banner needs to go I reckon.)


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:07 pm
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Ooh, lovely. Now, for the 90% of the user population that use Android and Windows...

[Jeremy Clarkson Smug Voice]Quit wasting all your time on Internet forums, and soon enough you may be able to afford to upgrade to Apple products too![/Jeremy Clarkson Smug Voice]

๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:08 pm
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lol @ upgrade


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:11 pm
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Quit wasting all your time on Internet forums, and soon enough you may be able to afford to upgrade to Apple products too

You're right, I should quit the subsistence existence of IT contracting and get myself the kind of cash cow that is a bike shop ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:12 pm
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@IHN, given that I'm using Chrome (which last time I checked was available on other platforms), I don't see what your point is? ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:12 pm
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You're right, I should quit the subsistence existence of IT contracting and get myself the kind of cash cow that is a bike shop

It's a hard life making all this money, but somebody's got to do it! ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:15 pm
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Android newest version and latest Chrome Well text size is all over the place, single tap to return to the forum is gone (my preference is always least clicks/taps) last post time missing is annoying especially for those of us in different time zones.
Personally the web version worked really well on my phone before. Will take a bit of getting used to (nothing much leaping put as an improvement here)


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:16 pm
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I don't see what your point is?

Which one? I've made a few.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:17 pm
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We are thinking hard about bringing you a solution to that that maintains the single line approach to mobile

Why? Nothing wrong with it falling to a couple of lines if necessary.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:18 pm
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@elliptic - the RH side has the "Don't miss" block at the top so that's what's causing that column to remain in view regardless of whether there are ads there or not.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:18 pm
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Pinch and zoom - We are aware of the issues with different browsers. Our plan is to eliminate the need entirely.

A quick pinch zoom into images etc is very very useful. Be a shame to loose that.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:20 pm
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Aye, font sizes seem to be completely random. Several in the same post sometimes.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:21 pm
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In iOS (not sure about Android) double tapping on any block element makes that element take up the full width of the device. This works on elements that are also links as the browser waits (350ms) for the second tap and only follows the link if the second tap isn't forthcoming.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:26 pm
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How about thread title in smaller font on line 1, then line 2 is number of posts, originator and page jump options?


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:28 pm
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Worried that I might miss gift giveaway day 19 ๐Ÿ˜


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:29 pm
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In iOS (not sure about Android) double tapping on any block element makes that element take up the full width of the device. This works on elements that are also links as the browser waits (350ms) for the second tap and only follows the link if the second tap isn't forthcoming.

Same on android, which used to work great on the old layout, but doesn't work at all on the new.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:30 pm
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OK. To get to most recent post on the EU referendum thread (though would anyone want to) I now have to click on the 3 dots icon then select the last page. That's one more click than previously.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:34 pm
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Might as well ditch the topic icon next to each post and that'll save 18px or so with the padding.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:36 pm
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@elliptic - the RH side has the "Don't miss" block at the top so that's what's causing that column to remain in view regardless of whether there are ads there or not.

I know. But previously I could squeeze the browser window and it fell off the side (with a scroll bar to bring it back over).

Now I can't, the site switches to mobile instead.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:40 pm
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Working well on my iPhone 6s
I like it


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:42 pm
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Might as well ditch the topic icon next to each post and that'll save 18px or so with the padding.
Using a different colour or font style for the different forums would still allow them to be identified in Overview


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:43 pm
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[img] [/img]

Quick mock up of how you could still retain the info for each post. Obviously make it a lot prettier than that.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:51 pm
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I know. But previously I could squeeze the browser window and it fell off the side (with a scroll bar to bring it back over).

Now I can't, the site switches to mobile instead.

Yup I used to do that too.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:52 pm
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Horrible getting to last page/post on a multi page thread like the zwift one.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 12:54 pm
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I don't know what you lot are on about.
It looks exactly the same to me on't computer, and much nicer on my phone.
Nice little upgrade.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 1:22 pm
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Also on iPad when you can figure out how to get to your posting history, you get a big articles box in the top corner obscuring the times.

Can we have the old site back please?

Horrible getting to last page/post on a multi page thread like the zwift one.

There is a Latest Reply link at the top of each page so you can get to the end quite easily, but it's a bit of a pain compared to previous site.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 1:23 pm
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I don't know what you lot are on about.
It looks exactly the same to me on't computer,

I didn't spot it at first either. On a desktop, if you resize the browser window width it automatically switches to the mobile version of the site. Looks to be a threshold of about 1000 pixels.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 1:32 pm
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Bug? If I resize the window to force the mobile site, click the menu, then resize it back out again, the mobile menu reappears in the left-hand column. Which I actually quite like and to my mind would be good to be there permanently, but it covers up prospective ad space and doubt it's intended behaviour.

Also, resizing in Edge (where I've no premier login or other add-ons) it properly goes to shit. Adverts cover half the screen, the menu shoves all the content offscreen, and resizing back out with the menu open causes all the content to fall off the bottom.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 1:38 pm
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Front page is very slow to load and with a couple of issues (W10/Chrome)- this was after a minute
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Posted : 22/12/2016 1:42 pm
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No issue on the front page here. Loaded pretty much instantly for me.
(Firefox 50.1/Ancient PC/Vista on home ADSL/P User + A*B****k)


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 2:00 pm
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however to counter the design disaster you have inflicted on the PC/Win7/IE view, the forum is now actually readable from my phone

nexus4/firefox

so swings and roundabouts


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 2:05 pm
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Good:

Now works MUCH better on my handheld mobile device, the page loads up considerably faster and it hasn't crashed since the update (used to crash very regularly)

Bad:

Not being able to skip to the end of the thread. Quite a problem! ๐Ÿ™‚

Overall- great improvement, well done! ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 2:05 pm
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While your playing with the forum - can you make it wider on desktops too? It's very narrow on todays big monitors.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 2:06 pm
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Personally, I might be tempted to reduce the main breakpoint to 960px or even 768px. It was always fine to browse on a tablet in landscape.
At the very least, I would make it <1024 (instead of <1025).

Just my opinion.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 2:06 pm
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While your playing with the forum - can you make it wider on desktops too? It's very narrow on todays big monitors.

The problem with that is text-line length. Go too wide and it is far harder to read. It's fine at the moment imo. So then you have to work out what you're going to fill the sides of the page with.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 2:09 pm
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On a desktop, if you resize the browser window width it automatically switches to the mobile version of the site

Is this why it looks totally crazy on my (admittedly possibly unique use case) of a Portrait oriented PC monitor? Get adverts covering up probably the entire right hand 3rd of a page over the top of topics / posts etc.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 2:14 pm
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The problem with that is text-line length. Go too wide and it is far harder to read.

User-configurable setting? I'd like it to be wider also. This is what my browser window looks like:

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Posted : 22/12/2016 2:17 pm
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They've totally fubarred the PC desktop version, it prioritises the ads over the rest of the site, so when its in mobile version i.e. narrow, you can't read anything. That's the same problem on Chrome, IE and Edge although Edge is worst.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 2:23 pm
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As acidtest said early (I think) go back to the old version, get the new one ready properly, then relaunch. This version is worse than the old one - even in a Brexshit world, we dont need to do that everywhere.


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 2:25 pm
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There is also something wrong with the font sizing on desktops, my last post has huge text and Cougars above is displaying much smaller (same size as the old site). WTF?


 
Posted : 22/12/2016 2:25 pm
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They've totally fubarred the PC desktop version, it prioritises the ads over the rest of the site, so when its in mobile version i.e. narrow, you can't read anything.
It wasn't like that earlier, they will be making tweaks to it right now so expect it to fix itself shortly.


 
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