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Mrs M has received the unwelcome news 2 weeks before Christmas that her role is now surplus.
I'll spare you the details, save for the fact she's a manager been there for 8 years and given the threat of funding not being available for the organisation long term she's keen to move on to something new and fresh.
However, after the first meeting a proposal was put with staged payment. Leaving date flexible, 2 months paid notice and an enhanced package payable February next year.
I wondered if Mrs M could as part of the package ask to be paid the full amount post haste with a veiw to finishing before Christmas, understandably she'd prefer to be away from the whole scenario sooner than later and with her payment in full.
I'm guessing the enhanced package is to guarantee they won't bail in the meantime and handover the job properly /give training to thier replacement staff?
No, the package, which tbf is generous is a sweetner. It's clear that both parties would rather this was concluded soon. Not through any animosity I should add rather, the post was to ask about the staged payment? Why not a lump sum and then go asap.
she can ask for anything she wants but generally they pay you more and a bonus on completion with no days off etc at the end of notice.
She can hint at being stressed and going off ill if she really wants to play hard ball.
So hypothetically, she leaves next Friday. Paid until end of December. Then paid January and February monthly then the lump sum.
Why not it all in one hit. I'm concerned that given the aforementioned funding issues there might be a short fall come lump sum day.
Propose that you would like a full and final settlement and be able to leave immediately to pursue other positions. Having this hanging over you would only cause issues with potential new employers.
Well maybe not strictly true.
But you get my drift just ask for a one off settlement immediately as it will be better for both parties assume the employer can afford that payment
hypothetically anything can happen but you need to ask yourself why will they pay her for not working when they are skint. it makes little sense from the business point of view point.
1) go in say you want to leave at Xmas ask what they will give
2) decide what to do /haggle
I think it's unlikely they will go yes ok here have all this money and dont work for us but they may say yes.
Depends on what the enhanced package is. Without knowing the ins and outs of it, essentially what they are saying is they want to make her redundant and have all advantages for the employer by notifying her in plenty of time, but still want her to be motivated and work hard until the end. I.E they employer wants their cake and eat it. Ask for voluntary redundancy or a settlement agreement, minimum she's likely to get is 3 months tax free wages. Only worth doing if the final pay out takes the total income to significantly more than you would get in this situation, eg 3 months taxed wages working on wind down and at least 2 months ex gratia tax free wages at the end. Always remember in this situation f they are offering to pay you more - they need you more than you need them (obviously depends on personal situation financialy)
Might be a cash flow issue, they don't have the money to pay all of it before Christmas. Might also be getting close to payroll deadlines, ours is tomorrow fo December payment.
.E they employer wants their cake and eat it.
They want her to do what she is contractually obliged to do whilst offering her a sweetener[ more money] for doing it. Hardly them taking the piss
The employee wants to leave, not work and get the sweetener and all in one lump sum. You sure its them that wants the cake and to eat it?
Probably less chance of doing a deal the Public/Third Sector, but nothing to stop her finding work elsewhere if she's on 'leave' - just may have a juggling of tax etc.