[url= http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Residents-rally-cycle-lane/story-20826771-detail/story.html ]Destroyer of communities: the cycle lane[/url]
You couldn't make it up! A group of residents campaign to make sure a shared footpath type cycle lane doesn't go ahead as it would prevent them parking on the pavement.
Some of the claims in the article are just incredible 🙁
A few days of ticketing by traffic wardens and that campaign would die on its arse (and cash for the council - win, win, win)
That's going to increase the likelihood of flooding, which is already an issue for some
It's rare that something posted on STW gets me choking on my toothpaste. Thanks, cleanerbybike.
It takes some monumental leap to conclude that installation of a cycle lane would lead to flooding and lead to breakdown of a community.
Yeah, we want to encourage people to cycle just so long as it doesn't prevent us from breaking the law!
in the article it says people will knock down the front gardens to create parking spaces.... by the looks of it in the picture lots have already done that??
And if they were worried about flooding they'd have used something permeable or a row of slabs where the wheels run.
I don't think that is nimbyism though. It is competion for space. It could be considered nimbyism if those featured were road cyclists.
To be fair, hardly worth putting a cycle lane on that wee road?
I don't understand why they can park on a pavement but not across a cycle path, the technique remains the same.
I don't think that is nimbyism though.
in the article it says people will knock down the front gardens to create parking spaces
That'll be NIMFYism then
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and on 3 everyone look ******* miserable
The best bit is how most of the street uses their front garden as a drive and parks off road, which would also reduce their insurance probably.
These threads are difficult with limited info. On the face of it, cyclists from which ever borough (don't know how many) just pass thru, they (local Council Tax paying residents) have to deal with parking issues constantly and/or daily (if any exist). The roads, streets and houses weren't designed for this volume of cars, but recurring government policy is to blame for the issues, not individuals. I think if I was already struggling for a parking spot outside my house which I pay a massive local council tax on, I'd feel the same way as your so called NIMBYS.
Local cycle route to me is parked on and blocked everyday, the council do nothing about it dispite trying my best. So I don't see how it'll make any difference, they park illegally on the pavement now and will no doubt will continue to do so
I think I agree with B.A.Nana...
Cutting parking spaces for people who commute 30 miles plus a day so they can pay the mortgage isn't the answer.
Whoever said it increases the risk of flooding is a nucking futjob though.
I'm inclined to agree with you B.A.Nana, it is the continuing government policy that is to blame for creating the car culture we have in the UK. That being said, there's no right to park right in front of your house (assuming it is a public highway of course).
The hyperbole used in that article is bloody laughable though, it could almost be the Daily Mash
Bigger issue for me is that people are oblivious to the legalities and selfishness of parking on pavements and the fact the council don't care or are prepared to enforce the rules for the benefit of everyone. Society is becoming more and more a free for all condoned by those who are supposed to enforce the rules but are too scared of the backlash.
"We want to encourage people to cycle but the mood is overwhelmingly in one direction in this case."
So you asked all the people on the street and they don't like the idea and from that conclude everyone is against it? how many cyclists did they ask?
Ask 100 residents and 90 are against it you cannot claim 90% of people are against it if 150 cyclists will use the road on a daily basis and are for it.
Stumpyjon - I have emailed the council / police to see why it isn't being enforced. I'm not holding my breath though
I bet Ann and Dale throw a cracking dinner party. Mint Viennetta and everything.
People nod at each other FFS - that is ample reason not to allow a cycle lane.
That's going to increase the likelihood of flooding, which is already an issue for some
Is it a gay cycle lane?
maccruiskeen 🙂
Whoever said it increases the risk of flooding is a nucking futjob though.
There is a link between covering of gardens with concrete/tarmac and increased flooding due to water running off into drains rather than soaking away. It's the reason some planning laws were changed to ensure new driveways in existing gardens can soak water away.
If you're going to post the photo, at least credit the source.
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fair enough jamie, can you fix the one in the bike on a plane thread too
Still don't see why they need a cycleway in that road.
But yes, people parking on the road is annoying. I have to walk my little kids up the middle of the road to get to the supermarket, whilst the cars are all on the pavement. Something not quite right about that.
Looks like a street that needs the pavements removing and turning into a shared space, block it off half way down so it's not a thoroughfare for motorised vehicles and job done.
It becomes a community area where people can stand out and chat on summer evenings rather than just nod as they rush passed each other to get into their cars, and those children so conveniently rolled out for the photograph can play safely, maybe even ride their bikes.
Winner of The Uk's Ugliest Street Award goes to...
molgrips - Member
Still don't see why they need a cycleway in that road.
The photo might not convey all the information, it could link up existing cycleways, be on the way to a school etc. it might be a complete rat run in rush hour.
From the photo, not many gardens left to slab.
Look at all that traffic.. yeah, that road really needs a bike lane.
not.
Technically, I think it's NIMFYISM 😆
Just get the police to nick them for pavement parking ?!!.They should move from their low priced houses and buy places with drives if parking is that much of an issue.No one has a right to a space outside their house
cheez0 - Member
Look at all that traffic.. yeah, that road really needs a bike lane.not.
I think your confusing a photo with an assessment of traffic levels, that is a snapshot capturing a moment in time not a look at the overall use of the road. I would assume they set it up so the road was empty when they took it.
Taking the photo as evidence most people seem able to park with out putting their car on the pavement - what are they complaining about.
that road really needs a bike lane.not.
Why do people still do that? make a statement and then put a 'not' after it? It's not the 1990s any more.
[quote=jon1973 said]It's not the 1990s any more.
Yes it is.
Not!
It is not. Yes?
But yes, people parking on the road is annoying. I have to walk my little kids up the middle of the road to get to the supermarket, whilst the cars are all on the pavement. Something not quite right about that.
I'm torn on this one. I do see a number of people parking sensibly where I live with 2 wheels on the pavement to ease traffic flow where the road is narrow and as long as there is ample room to pass on the pavement then I dont have an issue but I hate with a vengeance those who feel they can park the whole of their car on a pavement when ample room exists on the road. The type that see the wide pavement as their private parking space.
I reserve particular hate for those that do the latter on grass thereby turning grass verges into mini quagmires 👿
Cycle lanes are just a tick in the box for a council budget.
A cycle lane down that street won't help [u]anyone[/u] - residents or cyclists. Speedbumps and a 20mph limit might, but I don't know the place, so can't say for sure.
That photo is a classic example of 'Angry people in local newspapers' - http://apiln.blogspot.co.uk
Someone submit it please (I'm on my phone)? 🙂
Bigger issue for me is that people are oblivious to the legalities and selfishness of parking on pavements and the fact the council don't care or are prepared to enforce the rules for the benefit of everyone.
Isn't that what sharp keys are for?
I hate with a vengeance those who feel they can park the whole of their car on a pavement when ample room exists on the road.
In our street (new build cul-de-sac with about 50 houses on it), almost all the houses have one parking space out front, and a garage. Most people have two cars. Of those, two or three put one car in the garage and one in the drive. No-one else can be bothered to do that so they park in the road and on the pavement, so the road is pretty choked up.
I wouldn't mind a byelaw that says you have a garage with no car in it you aren't allowed to park on the road.
I grew up in the next street, and used to walk to school along Netherly Road every day. Now, it may have changed significantly in the 25 years or so since I left (although I have been back, and it doesn't seem so), but I can't really see why you'd want to put a shared use cycle lane along that road.