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... just bought up the subject of the "design" "theory" of reality. You know - "if you see a watch you know there's a designer blah blah blah". They also thought the universe is just 10,000 years old.

I was very polite.

Having ascertained that (after them "saying 13.7 billion years is not the age of the universe and is only an estimate and anyway how could that possibly be measured?"), that they didn't know what a Doppler shift was, I said:

"If I told you that I believe the universe was created and is being run by a giant invisible penguin that lives on the moon, using astrology, and furthermore that I demand you not only respect this deeply held belief but also believe it too, would you accept that?"

They said no and left. Quickly. Be interesting to see if it comes up again tomorrow.

Hope they don't bring a video camera and a sword... 😉


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 10:17 am
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...walk into a bar, and the short one says...


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 10:18 am
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Racist. It's not big and it's not clever.


 
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This penguin......where does it get its sardines from ?


 
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Oh wait, its not a complete-the-joke thread.

erm, death by sword for you, I'm afraid.


 
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This penguin......where does it get its sardines from ?

Sardinia?


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 10:19 am
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Are penguins a race ?


 
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Well, clearly, it magics them up out of nothing.


 
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Is the penguin running things using astrology, or did you hypothetically figure that all out using astrology? I'm not clear.


 
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Presumably the penguin has a beard ? *all* deities have beards.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 10:28 am
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Quatzalcoatl, the feathered serpent, god of intelligence and self reflection, does not have a beard. He does looks a bit like a snake with wings, he's pretty cool. Here he is eating a worshipper:

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I think it was very kind of you to explain why you thought their worldview is pants and frankly I am surprised they are not more grateful to be told that they, their friends and their community are barking up the wrong tree in their quest for enlightenment and happiness.

You wanna watch out though, if you are too persuasive they may come and worship you. Be warned.


 
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Don't believe in any of it. Never seen a penguin, muslim or anything invisible.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 10:41 am
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is this penguin a god one that penguins believe in or is he a god that any species can worship

its of no matter Iirc correctly the penguins in At the Mountains Of Madness worship Cthulu anyway

when the Great Old Ones rise you and your puny god of penguis, muslims, christians etc will be of no help

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Quatzalcoatl, the feathered serpent, god of intelligence and self reflection, does not have a beard. He does looks a bit like a snake with wings, he's pretty cool.

Horus doesn't have a beard either, but frankly, I think looks a bit of a tit
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[i]This penguin......where does it get its sardines from ?[/i]

It only needs one sardine, then the Penguin's Son can turn the one sardine into lots of sardines. Obviously.


 
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by a giant invisible penguin that lives on the moon,

Themoon penguin is an affront to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, may his noodly appendages crush the bones of the infidel!


 
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All we ever get is "sign here" then a box thrown on the floor.


 
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You have to talk to people. Try "Hi. Good weekend?" just to get it started. 😉


 
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All we ever get is "sign here" then a box thrown on the floor.

I think you have to pay extra for philosophical debate/argument.


 
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So they were in line almost half of Americans

http://www.classwarfareexists.com/gallup-46-of-americans-believe-earth-has-existed-only-10000-years/

I'm going to estimate that I've taught Big bang Theory to several hundred Muslims. This included calculating the age of the Universe from 1/H. Not one has ever questioned the age of the Universe or anything else about the theory. Well except sensible scientific questions. But that wouldn't have made a very interesting thread would it.


 
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Not one has ever questioned the age of the Universe or anything else about the theory.

Interesting. I once saw Richard Dawkins prove that salt and fresh water can mix to some muslim students who believed that they don't, because apparently the Koran says so.

Despite the evidence of their own eyes, they refused to believe it.

I wonder why the grip of superstition was stronger in them, than your own students?


 
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Racist. It's not big and it's not clever.

But penguins are black AND white.


 
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All we ever get is "sign here" then a box thrown on the floor.

Have you never tried: "Thank you, and what is your system of faith based upon, please stay whilst I ridicule it, and you. It will change your life."


 
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Horus doesn't have a beard either, but frankly, I think looks a bit of a tit

You're right. I think Sobek did a bit better with his crocodile head, although the look does go a bit pear shaped with his ridiculous hat:

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But that wouldn't have made a very interesting thread would it.

Get with the meme, all religious people are stupid.


 
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So they were in line almost half of Americans

...and yet I doubt if MrWoppits interlocutors were American he would have "wondered" whether they were going to come back with a box truck and a fertilizer bomb.


 
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Have you never tried: "Thank you, and what is your system of faith based upon, please stay whilst I ridicule it, and you. It will change your life."

This, and "tell them to **** off" was one of my grandads favourite responses.

Not a nice man, thankfully he's dead now, some Nazis got him (ironically)


 
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[i]all religious people are stupid. [/i]

Worryingly, some of them are really quite intelligent.

I do find the whole thing with humans and 'beliefs' seems to bypass logic and play directly to their emotional core.

Believers both want and need there to be more to life than just the science of evolution of a very successful species.

It seems to bypass logic and evidence in their heads.


 
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I have attached a picture below of this invisible penguin, as I too am a devout believer.

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Posted : 21/08/2013 11:14 am
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Holy communion, Penguin buscuit and wine.


 
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it may be invisible but it has it's own blog. I'm impressed.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 11:22 am
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Muslim couriers? Did they shine a laser scanner into your eyes?


 
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[i]Did they shine a laser scanner into your eyes?[/i]

Ah, I do miss him sometimes.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 11:27 am
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So Jurassic era etc is a myth? Fossils in slate are planted?!

Does this man I could take Geology degree in a year?


 
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That invisible depiction of the invisible penguin offends me, please remove it


 
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A couple of muslim couriers...

...walk into a bar. But they are forbidden from drinking alcohol, so they left.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 11:44 am
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[quote=hora ]
Does this man I could take Geology degree in a year?
Not with spelling like that.


 
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This peguin based religion; If it offers communion penguin biscuits and ribena, I'm in. Particularly if they're fed to me by my mate from primary school's mum, who was a milf before I even knew what a milf was. Or even, what f was. But she always gave us penguin biscuits and ribena.


 
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mummy squash!


 
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Stinks of liberals in here...


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 11:56 am
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Mrs Toast, that is fantastic 🙂


 
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Thanks Mrs Toast.

That will be kept for future use in instances such as this.

I may even print a few off in case I need one in the pub 😀


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 12:13 pm
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Does this mean I cant call penguins "Women hating oppressive terrorist fruitcakes"?


 
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also keeping that, very good.


 
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The suggestion that they might come back with swords is racist.


 
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It's ok. They may not have existed at all.

So the chances of them coming back, with or without swords, is minimal 🙂


 
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Does this mean I cant call penguins "Women hating oppressive terrorist fruitcakes"?

Cakes go stale with age, biscuits go soft. There was a landmark legal case in the Jaffa Cakes case, what with the zero tax on cakes. Anyway, penguins are definitely biscuits. So you could go with "women hating oppresive terrorist chocolate biscuits" but it isn't as snappy.

The suggestion that they might come back with swords is racist.

No, it isn't. So far in this thread, it's impossible to be racist toward the two muslim couriers, because we've not been furnished with the race of the muslims in question. Do keep up.


 
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I think it's very unpleasant, the swords bit; no matter how you try to label it, or otherwise.


 
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No, it isn't. So far in this thread, it's impossible to be racist, because we've not been furnished with the race of the muslims in question. They might be innuit for all we know.

Would that not make the racism comment racist, by assuming the people mentioned in the op are of a certain race???

BOOM!


 
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Would that not make the racism comment racist, by assuming the people mentioned in the op are of a certain race???

It would indeed.

The poster as truly been hoisted by his (or her, let's not discriminate on the basis of sex) own petard.

I think it's very unpleasant, the swords bit; no matter how you try to label it, or otherwise

swords are meant to be unpleasant, it's their raison d'etre.


 
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hahaha 10/10


 
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Really though, this threads demonstrates plenty of prejudice and hate, against religion in general, and Islam in particular.

I think people on here have a go at religion when they need a self-esteem boost to tell themselves they are far more intelligent than they actually are.


 
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I wish I was tech enough to be able to imbed little video clips like some people.

The second post on this thread just needed to be Ice Man's response in Top Gun when Maverick says "because I was inverted". You know the one.

In fact I think that particular two second clip would be at home in a lot of the threads on here.............


 
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Mr Toast I was looking for something to say. but that is so much better than anything I could have come up with. Thanks


 
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Muslim Couriers?

Is a Muslim too expensive to ship via royal mail now?


 
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[quote=dannyh ]I wish I was tech enough to be able to imbed little video clips like some people.

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Not with a sword though - that would be racist.


 
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Aye Step away from the Claymore scots routes


 
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Really though, this threads demonstrates plenty of prejudice and hate, against religion in general, and Islam in particular.

I think people on here have a go at religion when they need a self-esteem boost to tell themselves they are far more intelligent than they actually are.

This.

Althoguh it's the internet, people hiding behind their keyboards pretending to be all big and hard. I'd like to see if they'd say it face to face with a sword wielding muslim!


 
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I'd like to see if they'd say it face to face with a sword wielding muslim!

Its the swans that really worry me


 
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Really though, this threads demonstrates plenty of prejudice and hate, against religion in general, and Islam in particular.

I think people on here have a go at religion when they need a self-esteem boost to tell themselves they are far more intelligent than they actually are.

Well that's one interpretation although I see it as a mocking non falsifiable claims in general and creationism in particular, which quite frankly is fair game. I don't see anything that comes close to the word hate, although the sword comment was a bit off.


 
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Is a Muslim too expensive to ship via royal mail now?

Yup, Better to use MyHermes, unless you think bringing a third religious preference into the mix would confuse things too much.


 
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[i]I think people on here have a go at religion when they need a self-esteem boost to tell themselves they are far more intelligent than they actually are.[/i]

I just tend to treat it as a pleasant changing from arguing about wheel size.


 
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Horus looks like a bit of a tit - point of order with that beak it's more likely he's a raptor of some sort.

Anyway I am a traditional fundamentalist and ride 26". What does your "science" say about that then?


 
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Unbelievable that my religion is being mocked.

The penguin God on the moon does't need to eat, just like any other God.


 
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It's best not to mess with them anyway
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I'd like to see if they'd say it face to face with a sword wielding muslim!

Its the swans that really worry me

How do you wield a swan? They'd break your arm.


 
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How do you wield a swan? They'd break your arm.

Carefully.


 
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How do you wield a swan? They'd break your arm.

Then it'd drown your neighbours dog an all. I hope it's not a Korean Swan, it'd probably eat it to.


 
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propane torch

oh wait, you said "wield" not "weld"...

IGMC


 
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How do you wield a swan? They'd break your arm.

You'd be able to show off with a special cygneture move.

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Just a note on this thread as it's already generated a couple of complaints and I'm sure they won't be the last.

Sidestepping the hoary old "Muslim isn't a race" defence for a moment, I don't believe that there's a racism issue here as the fact that the couriers were of a given religion is wholly relevant to the post.

Similarly, the discussion (for want of a better word) seems to be revolving around New Earth creationists rather than Muslims specifically / generally. And chocolate biscuits. Whether not he's trolling is a different matter, given that Woppit has taken to religion like a duck to petrol; but I guess we'll see how it pans out for now.

There was also a suggestion of abusive posts, however I think this is a simple misunderstanding.

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And chocolate biscuits

Racist.


 
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So cougs, must we take it that saying things like, "all religious people are stupid" is within the forum rules that state that, "the ethos of this forum must be [b]one of mutual respect for everyone..[/b].when...abuse sets in, then you will have crossed the line." etc.

So let's replace "religious people" and take another segment of society eg, male or female, heterosexual or homosexual, black or white etc, would it be ok to make sweeping comments that they are all stupid too? I doubt it. So why is it ok to be rude and abusive towards religious people. In the past, STW has been accused of being tolerant toward religion bashing (or at least more tolerant) and you have rejected this. But hard to see how this can be the case again here.

Stil it has been a few weeks since the last one and like the usual threads I guess this will not be the last. But as you say maybe it's easy to simply misunderstand comments like the one highlighted?!?


 
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