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Mrs Toast, that is fantastic ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 12:57 pm
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Posted : 21/08/2013 1:01 pm
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Thanks Mrs Toast.

That will be kept for future use in instances such as this.

I may even print a few off in case I need one in the pub ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:13 pm
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Does this mean I cant call penguins "Women hating oppressive terrorist fruitcakes"?


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:13 pm
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also keeping that, very good.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:15 pm
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The suggestion that they might come back with swords is racist.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:16 pm
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It's ok. They may not have existed at all.

So the chances of them coming back, with or without swords, is minimal ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:22 pm
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Does this mean I cant call penguins "Women hating oppressive terrorist fruitcakes"?

Cakes go stale with age, biscuits go soft. There was a landmark legal case in the Jaffa Cakes case, what with the zero tax on cakes. Anyway, penguins are definitely biscuits. So you could go with "women hating oppresive terrorist chocolate biscuits" but it isn't as snappy.

The suggestion that they might come back with swords is racist.

No, it isn't. So far in this thread, it's impossible to be racist toward the two muslim couriers, because we've not been furnished with the race of the muslims in question. Do keep up.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:23 pm
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I think it's very unpleasant, the swords bit; no matter how you try to label it, or otherwise.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:24 pm
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No, it isn't. So far in this thread, it's impossible to be racist, because we've not been furnished with the race of the muslims in question. They might be innuit for all we know.

Would that not make the racism comment racist, by assuming the people mentioned in the op are of a certain race???

BOOM!


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:25 pm
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Would that not make the racism comment racist, by assuming the people mentioned in the op are of a certain race???

It would indeed.

The poster as truly been hoisted by his (or her, let's not discriminate on the basis of sex) own petard.

I think it's very unpleasant, the swords bit; no matter how you try to label it, or otherwise

swords are meant to be unpleasant, it's their raison d'etre.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:27 pm
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hahaha 10/10


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:28 pm
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Really though, this threads demonstrates plenty of prejudice and hate, against religion in general, and Islam in particular.

I think people on here have a go at religion when they need a self-esteem boost to tell themselves they are far more intelligent than they actually are.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:34 pm
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I wish I was tech enough to be able to imbed little video clips like some people.

The second post on this thread just needed to be Ice Man's response in Top Gun when Maverick says "because I was inverted". You know the one.

In fact I think that particular two second clip would be at home in a lot of the threads on here.............


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:34 pm
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Mr Toast I was looking for something to say. but that is so much better than anything I could have come up with. Thanks


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:36 pm
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Muslim Couriers?

Is a Muslim too expensive to ship via royal mail now?


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:36 pm
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[quote=dannyh ]I wish I was tech enough to be able to imbed little video clips like some people.

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Not with a sword though - that would be racist.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:36 pm
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Aye Step away from the Claymore scots routes


 
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Really though, this threads demonstrates plenty of prejudice and hate, against religion in general, and Islam in particular.

I think people on here have a go at religion when they need a self-esteem boost to tell themselves they are far more intelligent than they actually are.

This.

Althoguh it's the internet, people hiding behind their keyboards pretending to be all big and hard. I'd like to see if they'd say it face to face with a sword wielding muslim!


 
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Posted : 21/08/2013 1:39 pm
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I'd like to see if they'd say it face to face with a sword wielding muslim!

Its the swans that really worry me


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:41 pm
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Really though, this threads demonstrates plenty of prejudice and hate, against religion in general, and Islam in particular.

I think people on here have a go at religion when they need a self-esteem boost to tell themselves they are far more intelligent than they actually are.

Well that's one interpretation although I see it as a mocking non falsifiable claims in general and creationism in particular, which quite frankly is fair game. I don't see anything that comes close to the word hate, although the sword comment was a bit off.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:45 pm
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Is a Muslim too expensive to ship via royal mail now?

Yup, Better to use MyHermes, unless you think bringing a third religious preference into the mix would confuse things too much.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 1:47 pm
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[i]I think people on here have a go at religion when they need a self-esteem boost to tell themselves they are far more intelligent than they actually are.[/i]

I just tend to treat it as a pleasant changing from arguing about wheel size.


 
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Horus looks like a bit of a tit - point of order with that beak it's more likely he's a raptor of some sort.

Anyway I am a traditional fundamentalist and ride 26". What does your "science" say about that then?


 
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Posted : 21/08/2013 2:56 pm
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Unbelievable that my religion is being mocked.

The penguin God on the moon does't need to eat, just like any other God.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 2:59 pm
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It's best not to mess with them anyway
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I'd like to see if they'd say it face to face with a sword wielding muslim!

Its the swans that really worry me

How do you wield a swan? They'd break your arm.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 3:04 pm
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How do you wield a swan? They'd break your arm.

Carefully.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 3:19 pm
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How do you wield a swan? They'd break your arm.

Then it'd drown your neighbours dog an all. I hope it's not a Korean Swan, it'd probably eat it to.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 3:26 pm
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propane torch

oh wait, you said "wield" not "weld"...

IGMC


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 3:26 pm
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How do you wield a swan? They'd break your arm.

You'd be able to show off with a special cygneture move.

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Just a note on this thread as it's already generated a couple of complaints and I'm sure they won't be the last.

Sidestepping the hoary old "Muslim isn't a race" defence for a moment, I don't believe that there's a racism issue here as the fact that the couriers were of a given religion is wholly relevant to the post.

Similarly, the discussion (for want of a better word) seems to be revolving around New Earth creationists rather than Muslims specifically / generally. And chocolate biscuits. Whether not he's trolling is a different matter, given that Woppit has taken to religion like a duck to petrol; but I guess we'll see how it pans out for now.

There was also a suggestion of abusive posts, however I think this is a simple misunderstanding.

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Posted : 21/08/2013 3:30 pm
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And chocolate biscuits

Racist.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 3:33 pm
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So cougs, must we take it that saying things like, "all religious people are stupid" is within the forum rules that state that, "the ethos of this forum must be [b]one of mutual respect for everyone..[/b].when...abuse sets in, then you will have crossed the line." etc.

So let's replace "religious people" and take another segment of society eg, male or female, heterosexual or homosexual, black or white etc, would it be ok to make sweeping comments that they are all stupid too? I doubt it. So why is it ok to be rude and abusive towards religious people. In the past, STW has been accused of being tolerant toward religion bashing (or at least more tolerant) and you have rejected this. But hard to see how this can be the case again here.

Stil it has been a few weeks since the last one and like the usual threads I guess this will not be the last. But as you say maybe it's easy to simply misunderstand comments like the one highlighted?!?


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 3:46 pm
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[i]There was also a suggestion of abusive posts[/i]

People are asking the mods to add them now?


 
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Surely the belief in the [arguably] implausible despite evidence to the contrary might be considered an issue of intellect, judgement or other mental faculties. Not saying I agree, but there is a conection to be argued. Where as "all gays/australians/short people are stupid" is taking an arbitary characteristic and applying such a judgement would be just abuse for abuses sake?

On the above I'd like the mods to add abuse towards me. I didn't come here for an argument, I came for abuse damn it!


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 3:52 pm
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The difference is THM that you dont choose to be black, white, male, female, homosexual etc

religion on the other hand is something that you decide upon based on the facts as you see them

obviously that ignores any issues of indoctrination/education, cultural factors etc

and certain research that has hinted at a genetic predisposition towards faith


 
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So why is it ok to be rude and abusive towards religious people. In the past, STW has been accused of being tolerant toward religion bashing (or at least more tolerant) and you have rejected this.

I guess it depends on the context and whether or not it is the person or the belief that is being mocked.

Drawing comparisons between those of a religious persuasion and minorities such as homosexuals is however completely disingenuous. Religious people are not some put upon minority, they occupy a priviliged position in society. A better comparison would be between the mockery of religion and the mockery of white middle class men, such as me.


 
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Well the idea that all religious people are stupid is clearly falsifiable. That is just rude (but apparently within forum rules). Now the idea that religious peoples view's on eg, creation may/may not be stupid is a different argument altogether. So the point still stands IMO.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 3:55 pm
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[i]I came for abuse damn it! [/i]

There's a Dave Hinde thread near here you could contribute your undying love for him on and see some good results.


 
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Ok, so as long as someone is not in a minority and/or enjoys some kind of privilege then it's ok to mock them?

Kimbers, I thought religion was a matter of faith for those stupid (sic) enough to follow it?


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 3:58 pm
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Well the idea that all religious people are stupid is clearly falsifiable.

Indeed it is*
That is just rude (but apparently within forum rules)

remind me again what they say happens to me for not following their book/rules/codes? I bet it is a lovely message of hope and love...it is isn't it ?

STW may be more atheist than other places but I suspect, with little effort, I can find a place where the religious are being far ruder about us.

* It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise bright individuals [ including scientists] will , without any objective evidence, think god exists. It is like having to debate, with an adult, the tooth fairy or [ SPOLIER} father christmas tbh.

Ok, so as long as someone is not in a minority and/or enjoys some kind of privilege then it's ok to mock them?

Is the normal response to declare a fatwa,feed them to the lions, making it illegal to renounce my view or are shall we overlooking the centuries of respect for others beliefs that religion has ?
They should be grateful we only mock rather than do we they have done and continue to do to those they disagree with


 
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I didn't say it was okay I said it was a better comparison as a way to emphasise the fact that religious people are not the put upon minority that some people seem to think they are.


 
Posted : 21/08/2013 4:05 pm
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[i]religious people are not the put upon minority that some people seem to think they are. [/i]

in general, no.

on stw, yes.


 
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