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Palmer was stand out forward, thought the vaunted saes front row didnt really do much.
Wilko bossed the last 20 minutes when he came on, we need him to start against Fra and Ire...Out of interest how many points does he need to regain the all time points record?
TBH England barely broke sweat and should have put the game beyond an inept Wales a lot sooner.
The English centres are still a glaring weakness. Tindall is a defensive frailty for the outside break. Hape is a total mong at the breakdown, a real liability. Contrast him with BOD in that respect. He and Ashton show their RL heritage by being clueless after the tackle although Ashton more than compensates elsewhere.
Wales is just a big 'park & ride' for ENGLAND.
deluded - MemberWales is just a big 'park & ride' for ENGLAND.
Who can help but love the engerlish with an attitude like that? You have the possiblity of being a great ambassador for your little country. 🙄
deluded - Member
Wales is just a big 'park & ride' for ENGLAND.
Can you clarify how this works. I live in a big city, see, and there are a few Park & Rides here. This is how they work...you're ON THE WAY into the big city, see? Then, maybe you see a P&R just outside, so you stop, park and then get the bus into town instead of dirving and paying ridiculous parking charges.
So how does this analogy work for you? From where are people coming to Park in Wales, and then Ride the bus to England? Ireland? While Pembroke and Fishguard are busy enough, there isn't [i]that[/i] much traffic tbh. So, it's not the Irish using it. Is it the Scots? Nah, they'd already have to go through England to get to the Park & Ride that is Wales. So is it the English themselves using it? Well, no, that would be crazy. Why, they're already in England.
So come on then mr deluded, explain your statement to us - how is Wales a big Park & Ride for England?
Or is your statement utter bollocks?
What's the lesson here deluded? I'll tell ya. Next time you want to insult a nation, try and be clever about it (if that's within your abilities...which I very much doubt).
HTH.
The shame is that Wales did enough upfront to hold the English but were inept behind. They need a 12 who can run straight, draw a man and put players into space. Shame the only option for that task has been busy dancing and drinking for last couple of years! In addition the support running angles were awful.
It was really unusual to see a set of Welsh backs that couldn't run angles when needed, or straighten up either. Shane Williams didn't look that sharp tbh, Tindall caught him several times as he tried to take the outside line.
I was suprised to see an England back division get quicker ball than their counterparts as well. Overall England looked better in the back row, in the backs entirely & whilst the tight 5 didn't pull up any trees they stood firm enough to create an attacking platform.
Powell wasn't up to much was he? His taking off was a blatant replacement strategy, bit cynical but Jones was much better.
It was really unusual to see a set of Welsh backs that couldn't run angles when needed, or straighten up either
Not really tbh they havent been any good for at least 2 years, erm wonder why?
Not sure about the backrow, thing it was the england tight five who were stronger in all aspects, always gives the backrow an advantage. England had stronger ball carriers throughout the forwards and they had the edge in the set pieces too.
Phillips was rubbish which didnt help wales either
The English defence was all lined up for the wider game. Some good old fashioned pick and drive at close quarters was need to draw them in before the Welsh tried to spin it out.
Game was pretty good for a neutral though I do wish Ashton would stop being such a footballer with his showy dive. I will join the thousands who die laughing if he does drop it.
I do wish Ashton would stop being such a footballer with his showy dive
+1 🙁
Horrific display. That kind of behaviour belongs in Twickenham.
As Jonno says "celebrate AFTER you put the bloody ball down!"
Right, those pesky phlegm-spitters are out of the way so who do i cheer for thoday?
Italy & France of course!
phlegm spitters????
A side swipe at the Welsh speakers of course!
Only jealous as, a typical Englishman i struggle to grasp the concept of multi-linguism... 😳
Right, those pesky phlegm-spitters are out of the way so who do i cheer for thoday?
Why do you have to ruin what can be an intellectual exchange between people with a passion for a sport with side-swipes like that? It only serves to support idea of the fotball hooligan mentality that many have of the english. Sad me thinks. 😥
Oh give over, i've no doubt you've said something equally silly towards English fans when bantering about the sport. The best times i've had at a game were with NG Dragons fans & the piss-taking was legendary from all sides.
Thats just rubbish, sheep shagger inbreds etc fair enough but phlegm spitters just a really poor effort, I am sure you can do better.
Oh give over, i've no doubt you've said something equally silly towards English fans when bantering about the sport.
I can confidently say no for this as an opening salvo. I am comfortable with my team win or lose and comfortable with myself in that I don't have to try and belittle others but I will defend our position.
I come from a background of rowing where the winners are always first to cheer the second placers.
Win with a bit of decorum.
Thats just rubbish, sheep shagger
I hear that some people actually kill the animal for eating! 🙄 How absurd...
Then you are a different sort to the lads & lasses i spent time with when facing Dragons. They were a great bunch, called us all sorts of affectionate pee takes & got us all royally drunk. Takes all sorts i suppose.
Win with a bit of decorum.
A bit too much to expect from an England fan. Too busy turning their collars up, fluffing up their gilet puffas and singing the only song they know.
Or is that a stereotype...
Bad form though muddy. You need to win with magnanimity. I know winning is a newish feeling for you, but come on...
And there's the rub, I don't actually see
phlegm spitters
as being an
. 😉affectionate pee takes
There you go then. Being called an "effin' english barperson" whilst being handed a pint was what i called an affectionate pee take. If the same bloke had said it whilst snarling it would have been different of course.
If you're offended i apologise, but i've been called a lot worse at games by Welshmen & laughed & drunk with them.
Its a game. A gamer that inflames national pride in Wales far more than it does for the English i suspect. As for winning being new to me, i rember the days when Wales were supreme, followed by a good period of English dominance, followed once more by a Welsh resurgence so i know it's all cyclical.
Just as Ireland are currently a fading force compared to what they were 2/3 yrs ago.
Why is it that the 'celts' are allowed to support any team playing England yet i get frowns when i say i'll never cheer for Wales or Scotland. (Will for Ireland cos they aren't British).
Don Simon, you must be a right bore down the pub if you take good natured banter so literally............
😉
I' ve got a mate like you - he's the only guy I know who cheers for the referee!
Don Simon, you must be a right bore down the pub if you take good natured banter so literally............
Quite the opposite actually. So you think it's OK to say something derogatory and dress it up as good natured banter?
Here we go - anthem time. Got to love the Italian one.
Come on the Azurri!
Think the band have been at the vino already!
Just as Ireland are currently a fading force compared to what they were 2/3 yrs ago.
We've actually got the best squad we've had for a long time, if we can clear up the injury problems.
Getting on a bit though aren't they? Italy are looking not half bad at the mo', don't know how long they can keep it up though.
Some of them are getting on but they're still a year or two short of being past it. Hayes is out of the picture now, Wallace wouldn't be starting if Ferris and Heaslip were fit. O'Driscoll and D'Arcy are the oldest backs and they are still playing good rugby.
We always piss about like this for the first half against the Italians.
Looking a bit flakey right now, silly mistakes. If it were any other team in the 6N you'd be 10 points down by now.
Phew! Good attack there that came to a bad end...
Ireland much better now.
Spoke too soon....
We'll be ten points up soon enough.
Ireland will win of course, it's how they win that will be important. So far they don't look like potential 6N winners.
Italy really have come a long way in a few yrs haven't they?
Muddydwarf "Why is it that the 'celts' are allowed to support any team playing England yet i get frowns when i say i'll never cheer for Wales or Scotland. " Is nt that a question that we all have to ask ourselves irrespective of nationality? I know many Scots who would not support "anyone but england". I even know some Scots who would support England when Scotland are not playing etc. When talking about following a national team remember the tartan army footsoldier asked on tv if the situation was "desperately serious" replied "with us the situation is often desperate,but never serious" 😆
I like that quote! 😆
Interesting 1st half. Ireland making too many silly, basic mistakes, Italy are looking quite good. Making a lot of tackles though and that will tire them.
Intrigued as to what moniker Muddy Dwarf will come up with to describe the Irish or the Italians.
Italy really have come a long way in a few yrs haven't they?
I imagine that'll be the influence of the Pumas then.
Took their time didn't they - must have got a right rollocking in the dressing room!
Ireland do a speciality in baby face fly halves. O'Gara has hardly aged in the last dozen years and sexton looks around ten! 🙂
Ireland looking better now, Does O'Gara have a portrait in his attic? 😆
Ooh, some nervous Irish right now!
W00t!
TRY!!!!!!
Ireland down to 14 men, can the Azurri win this?
Oh holy Jesus. They deserve it though.
**** me this game has suddenly got interesting!
PHEW!
Begorrah!
That was an injustice.
Slam still on then.
Didn't really deserve that loss did Italy.
Can't say Ireland have impressed, nothing to fear there at the moment for the other 4 teams.
What a last 10 min now very worried about Scotland v Italy
Ok.
France or Scotland?
France for me. Scotland have a great pack but are very dodgy in midfield. Can see french intercepts coming..
France fo sho
Got there in the end! Last 10 better than the previous 70. On to the one that matters to me, then.
Don Simon, you must be a right bore down the pub if you take good natured banter so literally............I' ve got a mate like you - he's the only guy I know who cheers for the referee!
That will be 2 then. (Grade 4 ref)
Right,serious point. This was the thread I was looking forward to restoring my enjoyment of STW.The last year has had far too many abusive threads about,hell anything.Almost an element of bullying is apparent in a lot of threads.I hope A.A doesn't mind me talking out of turn on his thread,but can we PLEASE keep it fairly good natured and not go down the why do you hate us/our country is better than your's pish,but really,do we need to be slagging each others mother tongue?By all means get into one another about our teams,but guys;it is a thread about a sport we love/have spent time in surgery for.
Just back in time to catch last 10 mins. Bit of a narrow squeak for Ireland there from the comments above. Tried to listen to RTE as don't have digital radio in car but too crackly.
Nobody say anything about the Scots winning. If we are expected to do well we will balls it up. Lets have a horrible wet, windy, stick it up your jumper game that everybody hates watching but that Scotland sneak by a point.
(never bothered to check forecast for Paris)
That was muck. Wallace is past it, O'Leary is woeful.
Nothing to see on the BBC, move along please!
Oh dear. Going to be a long day at the office for Scotland.
Wonder how TJ's taking this? 😉
The good France seem to have turned up today!
Hmm. So much for the much vaunted Scots pack. France look worryingly good.
Ooh well done Scotland!
Spoke too soon again muddyd!
Scotland are playing France on BBC1 😀
Did Scotland really just score a try or am I dreaming it?
Wonder how TJ's taking this?
Why should he care? England played yesterday.... 😈
Great stuff this, end to end.
I have a feeling it will be one way traffic soon.
Scots pack must be hurting now.
Penalty try to France.
Can see France opting for the scrum as often as possible now.
Dear Chris Ashton, look at this from 22 seconds to see how to do a proper dive. If your Knees land first you look like a girl!
Ok, watching this with my 5 month old son is helping to moderate my language.
The French look ominously dangerous. don't think it will be 10 points at the end of 80 mins but I am very happy we are making some progress and have scored a try!!!
My mate's daughter has just told him off for calling a player a big fat nancy! 😆
Wow - some pass!
TV packed up again...
Well that will be that pretty much all over for us 🙁
Having said that, maybe a glimmer of hope.
damn that's a good try