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Oh FFS, what a ****ing disaster England have been. Sorry England fans - I'd have liked them to stay in the tournament. They just weren't good enough. No plastique gloat boating from me. One assumes Lancaster is writing his resignation letter.
that's it. rugby is shite. I'm going back to liking football.
Like I said at half time... 20 innit
Schadenfreude is a beautiful word 😀
england miss a Martin Johnson, that is the difference IMO
The whole seeding system needs looking at..i can say that now
Easy Piggie, stay classy dude.
I reckon that England were very lucky with the ref tonight. Before now he's carded the Welsh front row for collapsing twice - tonight he allowed Marler alone three collapses and six penalties in total against the English scrum. No yellow, Mr Poite? 🙄 And why was Coles not even talked to after taking Foley off the ball, as the TMO said. Foley was quite capable of catching that ball, and what are the chances of Australia scoring against a disorganised English defence? But he didn't even look at Coles. Yet another 🙄 for Poite the twit.
The commentators tonight were appallingly bad.
At least the footballers were still in it to the last group game of the world cup.
Outplayed, outcoached, outthought and outclassed.
that's it. rugby is shite. I'm going back to liking football
Prepared to be disappointed...
Looks like Australia have found a scrum again too, their only real weakness over the last few years.
wanmankylung - MemberHow was that high tackle not at least a yellow? To go with the other one.
You could hear the ref wasn't buying it either, kept going back to the video official and asking questions, was quite funny. "What's your recommendation." "Penalty kick." "AND?" "Er, yellow card?" "OK"
Didn't see the whole match but I thought England were perfectly OK, no shame in being beaten by a better side.
I can't understand anyone who really thought England had a chance.
The Aussies just won the Rugby Championship, beating the Boks from 10pts down, thrashing the Argies then doing the ABs. OK they lost the Bledisloe rematch but they'd changed their side to conceal some of their plans. They knew their best XV and had a coherent game plan, led by a coach who's won the Heineken and the Top14.
England have won nothing. Didn't know their best 15 or 30 or 45. Had no game plan and were led by a PE teacher with no top flight coaching sudccess.
Go figure.....
Loving the studio discussion, entirely about England. You'd swear that there wasn't another team on the pitch to beat them.
Lancaster has got most of the big calls wrong - can't see any progress in his tenure to be honest and I'm not sure he knows his best side or how he wants his team to play. Won't be his side for long though - p45 time.
Send Mike Bown out to the press, please, pretty please.....dont make me beg...
Will the rfu blazers accept they need a foreign coach?
Damn, it's Robshaw not Mr Sulk.
Poor reaction from Farrell and robshaw to the card IMO. Pleased Wales are through but it feels a bit wrong to go through like this, as aa said, our scrum is going to get pumped 🙁
That was one of the best Oz performances ever.
Best I can remember watching, anyway. Load of credit due to their players and coaching team.
No shame in losing to that performance, it was class.
I never expected Wales to go thru' presuming second who do we play?
You could hear the ref wasn't buying it either, kept going back to the video official and asking questions, was quite funny. "What's your recommendation." "Penalty kick." "AND?" "Er, yellow card?" "OK"
that bit was a bit of a joke for me. there seemed to something of a language barrier. are they only allowed to communicate in sentences of less than 5 words?
having the stop-start game as it is now with the TMO and all the camera angles just shows how farcical the rules of rugby are. can't they make it simpler? or at least the players more intelligent?
SA
Wilko is talking about an amazING group of players and coaches. Which are those? Also saying it came too soon, well they've had 4 years, if they'd gone about it properly that's quite a long time.
then NZ prob
So does anyone have a clue how good or bad Lancaster is as a coach? He's been handicapped by having Farrell and the nepotism involved in that, and then the Burgess affair. Has he been allowed to select his own staff or have they been imposed on him? Ditto, team selection?
I like Wilkinson, him and Shane have been bright lights in a shower of ITV shit.
then OZ again in the final
or Ireland 😉
SA then NZ...easy. who do we playvinbthe final 😉
Be fair.
England, Wales and Australia are all pretty decent outfits, and one of them had to go out.
As a Scot, I wouldn't have fancied my chances in that group (and we may yet join the Englanders with our team watching the second round from the bar).
Well done Wales & Australia, commiserations England. I think Jonny Wilkinson put it well - England are building a good team, it's just not there yet; possibly not the time to rip it all up and start again.
just shows how farcical the rules of rugby are. can't they make it simpler?
The rules are simple, that was two yellow cards. Poite didn't want to give them.
SA then NZ...easy. who do we playvinbthe final
😆
AA - second place play SA QF then NZ semi.
The rules are simple, that was two yellow cards. Poite didn't want to give them.
yeah, not those decisions. the comment was more in general.
Inigomontoya, it's weird that you've just popped up. I've got to the point in the book where you, Dread Pirate Roberts and Fezzik escape with Buttercup. Glad to see you made it ok. 😆
In the Aussie world cup, many Irish, Scottish and Welsh supporters backed England as the tournament progressed.
So, England fans, don't mope around! Support Wales or Ireland from now on! Whoever gets furthest shall be your team as well!
(Sorry, Scotland. Just can't see it! ;- ) )
And thanks England, thanks for your sacrifice to the cause. 🙂
Flashy - I think most of us will.
mrhoppy - Member
Wilko is talking about an amazING group of players and coaches. Which are those? Also saying it came too soon, well they've had 4 years, if they'd gone about it properly that's quite a long time.POSTED 1 MINUTE AGO # REPORT-POST
Was at the England France match 4 years ago when they went out the last time.
That really did feel like the end of an era, that the players and coaching team involved had had their shot, let people down, and deserved to go. This time they were just beaten by a much better team. Kind of understand Wilko's point, there's a lot of youth there and they really should have been looking at this one as experience towards peaking for 2019. Seems weird, but that's the age/experience level when more of these lot will be peaking.
Good points from Namaste,the aussies play week in week out at a much higher level of competition ,they are always going to start with a 70/30 chance of beating any of the 6 nations teams(in competitive matches where it matters)
possibly not the time to rip it all up and start again.
Not the team maybe, but certainly the coaching side of things.
In the Aussie world cup, many Irish, Scottish and Welsh supporters backed England as the tournament progressed.So, England fans, don't mope around! Support Wales or Ireland from now on! Whoever gets furthest shall be your team as well!
(Sorry, Scotland. Just can't see it! ;- ) )
Can't see it either Flashy, but I'm still dreaming for a week maybe more - and we've got tickets for Scotland Samoa next week
Clueless performance from England. Maybe get the Japanese in to give a motivational talk?
This is in no way disrespectful to the Japanese, I watched them earlier. They believed, we didn't.
Wales vs Aus... play for the privilege of meeting Japan in the next round or save the few remaining players for a bruising encounter with RSA? Neither seem great but I guess you'd take Japan of the two
DanW - Oi! See earlier post. No wrecking dreams until after next Saturday.
Be fair.
England, Wales and Australia are all pretty decent outfits, and one of them had to go out.
As a Scot, I wouldn't have fancied my chances in that group (and we may yet join the Englanders with our team watching the second round from the bar).
Well done Wales & Australia, commiserations England. I think Jonny Wilkinson put it well - England are building a good team, it's just not there yet; possibly not the time to rip it all up and start again.
Very fairly put - problem is, the arrogance of the fans & commentators put everyone else's back up...