No, your allegation states that Mike Myers won't be partying on with babes, dude.
I've edited my post so as to give a bit more background.
Anyhoo, must dash
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I've already mentioned that apparently....
I've already mentioned that [i]apparently [/i]you have no penis.
Does that make it a fact? (Note - This last bit is what is called a "question". You should try answering one once in a while. )
Of course, I've already mentioned that apparently the Royals were introduced to Savile by Charles' mentor, Louis Mountbatten in the 1960s...
You did indeed, you said:
Lord Mountbatten introduced Jimmy Savile to the Royal Family in the 60s and they were close from that time until his death in 2011.
Have your internet wanderings led to you any further information about Lord Mountbatten? Like when he died, for example?
Oh, it's hard fact...
and as for the Mountbatten link:
It's as factual as the majority of information presented by news sources...
Lord Mountbatten introduced Jimmy Savile to the Royal Family in the 60s and they were close from that time until his death in 2011.Have your internet wanderings led to you any further information about Lord Mountbatten? Like when he died, for example?
Yep, 1979... apparently involving the IRA, there were 2 young boys on the boat with him at the time.
Kincora has been linked to the intelligence services and the IRA as has Elm Guest House.
Mountbatten is said to have been involved in the network surrounding Kincora~ certainly possible given his links to the intelligence services.
Thought you had to dash?
Of course, you overlook not only the fact that one of those "young boys" was his grandson, but also the identity and relationships of the others on the boat at the time, because they don't fit your narrative.
Or, were they all a part of the conspiracy as well?
Apparently.....said to be.....linked to.....allegedly....
You see? The problem is the way you latch on to any possibility, ignoring any facts. That way, any element where you and your ilk could well be correct is lost under your insane interwebular noodlings.
Read this again flash:
Yep, 1979... apparently involving the IRA, there were 2 young boys on the boat with him at the time.Kincora has been linked to the intelligence services and the IRA as has Elm Guest House.
Mountbatten is said to have been involved in the network surrounding Kincora~ certainly possible given his links to the intelligence services.
I haven't latched on to anything outlandish: I haven't made any suggestions about the boys, I just mentioned they were on the boat.
The rest however is reasonable deduction... you can poo poo it all you like, but time and again I've been on the money, from Leon Brittan, to Lambeth, to MI5 involvement in protecting paedophiles...
Your point was quite obvious.
there were 2 young boys on the boat with him at the time.
Why not mention the others if you weren't insinuating something about the "young boys"? Why mention that they were "young boys" at all? Of course, unless you were implying he was, y'know, one of THEM. But then, he was a lizard, so he must be.
So, are you going to dash now?
There were 2 young boys killed on the boat with him...
take from that what you will.
There were 2 young boys killed on the boat with him...
take from that what you will.
One of them a family member, and the other a member of the boat crew.
All I can take from the fact that you mentioned it, is that you believe "mud sticks" so you throw it every tiny chance you get.
And you will grasp at anything that reinforces your ideas.
An 83 year old woman died as a result of injuries obtained on the boat with them....
Take from that what you will.
Go on. Make your accusation. What have you got to lose.
What accusation?
That Mountbatten was involved with the intelligence services and the intelligence services were(are?) involved with the procurement and trafficking of children from care homes to serve the perversions of members of the elite...
It's worrying to think that such things have happened, even more so as someone must have devised and authorized such schemes... If Mountbatten was in on it, just how high did it go?
If Mountbatten was in on it,
IF? IF?
But, he had "two young boys" on his boat. So, by your [i]logic[/i], there's no "if" about it.
Was he a paedophile? (Note, that's another question. One to which there are only two possible answers, being "yes" or "no". So, how about answering it?)
Maybe...
Pointless berk.
Bored of your trolling now. Unlike you, when I say I've got to dash, I have.
Was Lord Mountbatten linked to Northern Ireland and the intelligence agencies, Yes or No?
Interesting timing...
[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/royal-family-member-was-investigated-as-part-of-paedophile-ring-before-coverup-excop-says-10126864.html ]Royal Family member was investigated as part of paedophile ring before cover up[/url]
We'll have to see how this progresses
Good find fourbanger... there is a full breakdown of how MPs voted [url= http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5530/how-mps-voted-on-move-to-change-official-secrets-act-over-csa#.VQ4Nutra8qE.twitter ]here[/url]
What is especially noteworthy is that the Home Secretary, Theresa May voted against the amendment allowing whistle-blowers to disclose to the child abuse inquiry without fear of prosecution under the Official Secrets Act, despite repeatedly saying that she 'hopes' whistle-blowers will not be prosecuted.
Former Childrens Minister Tim Loughton also voted against, possibly in relation to [url= http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/britains-missing-children-310701.html ]this[/url]
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32086251 ]Paedogeddon continues[/url]:
The three new referrals to the IPCC are:An allegation that a child abuse investigation in central London gathered evidence against MPs, judges, media entertainers, police, actors, clergy and others. The file was submitted to start proceedings against those identified and, it is alleged, two months later an officer was called in by a senior Met officer and told to drop the case
Two allegations about police actions during a child abuse investigation in the 1980s. Further details of these have not been given
The IPCC is also assessing a further six referrals it has received from the Met Police relating to "similar matters".
[url= http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-03-26/ipcc-100-allegations-against-42-police-over-rotherham/ ]Further IPCC investigations are pursuing over 100 allegations against 42 police officers in Rotherham[/url]
Additionally, [url= http://www.channel4.com/news/vip-paedophile-ring-westminster-abuse-elm-guest-dolphin ]Channel 4 news tonight will have further allegations linking Kincora to both Dolphin Square and Elm Guest House[/url]:
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Worth bearing in mind [url= http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/intelligence-officer-sorry-for-failing-to-pursue-kincora-victims-case-31122595.html ]a military intelligence officer had tried to expose the paedophile rings used by MI5 for blackmail[/url]:
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Further IPCC investigations are pursuing over 100 allegations against 42 police officers in Rotherham
What are the Independent Police Complaints Commission doing investigating 42 police officers, I thought this was supposed to be an establishment conspricy ?
Isn't the Queen in on it, can't she stop the Independent Police Complaints Commission investigating ? Surely the IPCC take their instructions from the Queen, don't they swear an oath to her or something ?
She is still fuming from her courts agreeing that her sons letters to her government ministers should be published even though her governments top legal person said no after her courts said yes.
Given she runs it all quite why Charles did not just ask her I dont understand but I assume HRH and JHJ know the answer
Yet again JHJ revealing himself to be more interested in the who the abusers are.
Given the IPCC has minimal powers, it'll be interesting to see whether the inquiry just refers to their findings, or uses it's powers to investigate more thoroughly...
Tricky things these establishment conspiracies, they have so many mechanisms for wriggling, but public scrutiny does a damn fine job of pinning them down.
If it wasn't for brave survivors, journalists and investigators, we wouldn't be any the wiser.
Still some way to go, but solid progress being made at exposing the true scale of the operation.
And of course I'm interested in the roles of the abusers, as I've stated many times before, when the people who make the legislation and enforce the laws are themselves involved in abuse, the system is seriously flawed.
It's only through exposing these links that the problem can the thoroughly rooted out and future abuse prevented.
Of course, the fact that it also appears to tie into the arms industry and blackmail would potentially suggest that in addition to direct abuse of youngsters, there is also the larger issue of preventing injury, death and suffering as a result of the dark political aims of those controlling such paedophile rings.
Tricky things these establishment conspiracies
You're telling me. And bearing in mind that paedophilia is apparently 'vital to the control structures of the political and religious elite' I'm assuming that the existing social order is under threat, and we are in fact experiencing what could be the start of a new revolutionary situation, am I correct?
Will the future be lizard free ?
Do you think children from care homes being used by the intelligence services to blackmail influential figures in politics, the judiciary and the military is an acceptable practice?
Personally, I find it pretty disgusting~ a system which didn't rely on these methods would certainly be preferable.
[i]And of course I'm interested in the roles of the abusers, as I've stated many times before, when the people who make the legislation and enforce the laws are themselves involved in abuse, the system is seriously flawed.[/i]
logic fail.
But then you knew that.
Up the revolution, let us rise up to throw off our lizardy overloads!
Will the future be lizard free ?
Peados first!
Jeez, one thing at a time. So impatient some people.
And of course I'm interested in the roles of the abusers, as I've stated many times before, when the people who make the legislation and enforce the laws are themselves involved in abuse, the system is seriously flawed.logic fail.
But then you knew that.
You've got me there nick, I don't understand your reasoning... please explain
I'm assuming this has already been posted, but is anyone interested in this or would you just like to carry on baiting JHJ?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/541793/SNP-activist-killed-over-child-sex-files
There's some pretty suspicious aspects to the case. I don't suppose we will ever know the truth.
[i]There's some pretty suspicious aspects to the case.[/i]
there are some spurious bits of [s]journalism[/s] copywriting as well, "was said" "some maintain" "are understood" "was seen"
from the Express, that well know last bastion of truth. 😆
Indeed @nick, all those journalistic tricks to repeat false allegations, or at least those the paper itself has done nothing to try and verify. @grum a nice convenient article to stoke up anti-English sentiment ahead of the referendum, they even get the speculation in there he was killed for opposing the "dumping of nuclear waste in Scotland".
there are some spurious bits of journalism copywriting as well, "was said" "some maintain" "are understood" "was seen"
I agree about the article. But then I'm intelligent enough to critically analyse evidence for myself rather than just going 'OMG LOLZ DAILY EXPRESS'.
There's plenty of direct quotes/facts in the article as well as all the conjecture.
And what about this bit:
Just a few months after McRae’s death, Geoffrey Dickens spoke in the House of Commons about the dangers he had faced due to his attempt to expose powerful paedophiles.
He said: “Honourable Members will understand that where big money is involved and as important names came into my possession so the threats began. First, I received threatening phone calls followed by two burglaries at my London home.“Then, more seriously, my name appeared on a multi-killer’s hit list.”
But no, carry on congratulating yourselves on how clever you all are for outsmarting a nutty conspiracy theorist, while not giving a shit about a potentially far-reaching and genuine national scandal.
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/fatal-accident-inquiry-for-willie-mcrae
For the hard-of-thinking - I'm not saying I believe everything I read in the above links, at all, but I think they are worthy of interest. I find it utterly bizarre how many of you don't seem to give a shit about the very real and disturbing things that have been uncovered. JHJ seems to be doing a pretty good job of killing off any genuine interest in these matters.
or would you just like to carry on baiting JHJ?
If you bothered to look at who has been posting on this thread for the last 2 weeks you would see that it has been mostly JHJ, and you would see that his posts have mostly been ignored.
No one has laid a bait for him. In fact it is his repeated return to this thread that has been the bait which created a reaction.
You grum might think that JHJ's claim that "paedophile rings are central to the control structures of the political and religious elite" and that the Queen is the head of a paedophile ring warrants serious consideration and is no laughing matter, but that sentiment is unlikely to be shared by a great many others.
while not giving a shit about a potentially far-reaching and genuine national scandal.
You will obviously have critically analysed the evidence of this before making the accusation ?
You grum might think that JHJ's claim that "paedophile rings are central to the control structures of the political and religious elite" and that the Queen is the head of a paedophile ring warrants serious consideration and is no laughing matter, but that sentiment is unlikely to shared by a great many others.
No I think JHJ is full of shit and is distracting from important related issues - I just find the smug supercilious complacency of various posters on this topic quite infuriating.
Is proving that JHJ is a nutty conspiracy theorist the key issue here? Hasn't that been established months ago?
You will obviously have critically analysed the evidence of this before making the accusation ?
Yes I have - the evidence of this thread is that you are all far more concerned about making yourselves look clever than you are about corruption and paedophilia/abuse.
Oh sorry everyone, I'll just make some shit jokes about lizards shall I?
Yes I have - the evidence of this thread is that you are all far more concerned about making yourselves look clever than you are about corruption and paedophilia/abuse.
I'm not concerned in slightest about posting on a cycling forum about peadophilia conspiracies.
That does not mean I'm not concerned about the fact that paedophiles exist.
If you think it does, then your critical analysis isn't is as good as you think it is.
I just find the smug supercilious complacency of various posters on this topic quite infuriating.
Presumably you want us to overcome our smug supercilious "complacency" by organizing anti-paedophile lynch mobs ? Perhaps a few bricks through the windows of suspected paedophiles, or failing that pediatricians, and "nonce" painted on the front of their houses ?
Nah, just post a load of photos of Jimmy Saville, that'll resolve the issue
I'm not concerned in slightest about posting on a cycling forum about peadophilia conspiracies.
And yet you've posted many times on this thread, talking about paedophilia conspiracies. How strange. 🙄
Presumably you want us to overcome our smug supercilious "complacency" by organizing anti-paedophile lynch mobs ? Perhaps a few bricks through the windows of suspected paedophiles, or failing that pediatricians, and "nonce" painted on the front of their houses ?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting, well done. 🙄
Personally I find stuff like this quite concerning/interesting - apparently that makes me weird/a conspiracy theorist:
Another day, another set of shocking headlines about allegations of historical child abuse and high-level coverups, this time a dossier being handed over by the Metropolitan police themselves to the Independent Police Complaints Commission to examine 14 allegations of Scotland Yard’s own complicity in the alleged coverup of a high-level paedophile ring.Two weeks ago it emerged that former MP Harvey Proctor’s grace-and-favour home in Belvoir Castle had been raided by police investigating historic allegations of child abuse. Proctor has denied any involvement in, or knowledge of, the alleged establishment abuse. Other claims fester. A raid was also made on the home of the former home secretary Leon Brittan.
All have denied charges levelled by alleged victims, some of them in files passed on by current MPs convinced of an extensive establishment coverup that lasted decades. But so did Cyril Smith, who got his knighthood in 1988 despite officials warning Margaret Thatcher of paedophile allegations against him, confirmed only after the former Liberal MP was dead. Freedom of Information (FoI) papers filled in fresh details this month. Smith is again central to today’s claims.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/17/westminster-child-abuse-paedophile-ring-failure
Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting, well done.
Yes it was a ridiculous suggestion wasn't it ? Of course you have got a much better suggestion of how we can overcome our "complacency" which you are now going to tell us.
Well, in my crazy imagination I had the idea that on a discussion forum people might sensibly discuss the actual issues involved rather than smugly congratulating themselves and taking the piss out of a nutty conspiracy theorist (over and over and over again), but LOLZ HE BELIEVES THE QUEEN IS A LIZARD PAEDO is clearly the way forward.
My apologies.
