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Buy fresh is 220 Euro's, in my situation it seems a shame to bin the rest of the cassette after only 600 miles when I can replace the high wear item separately.
Will probably have to buy fresh next time though!
Tom
surely if you in the 42 enough to wear it out after 600 miles then you need a smaller chainring?
I suggested that a couple of pages back!
32t chainring on order, hopefully arrives today 🙂
Interestingly, how long are people getting out of their single alloy chain rings? My original 34t looks very worn and is ready for the 32t replacement.
Mine's still fine after 1100 miles or so. Anodising's a bit worn, and I imagine winter will finish it off, but that's fine, I'll stick a fresh (Absolute Black oval) one on come spring.
after reading this thread i now make a concerted to not use the 42t ring unless absolutely necessary... does that defeat the object!?! bah!
I'm thinking I need cut down on my eating and lose some weight, only way to reduce the load on the drive train! LOL
You'll ride faster as well, can't be bad!
The answer is to select the right front ring ratio. Try dropping down a size on the front say to 32 and you should see a better chain line and less use of the large ring and less wear in my experience. About to go to third chain this year.
I'm struggling to see how people are wearing out the alu 42 at the back (that you're in occasionally) and not the alu 32/34/36 at the front (that your on all the time!).
I wore out the 12 cog on my XX1 first - think I need to go up a size on the front!
Adam@BikeWorks - Member
I'm struggling to see how people are wearing out the alu 42 at the back (that you're in occasionally) and not the alu 32/34/36 at the front (that your on all the time!).I wore out the 12 cog on my XX1 first - think I need to go up a size on the front!
I have worn out the 34t at the front as well!! 🙂 Think it's just me, I do have a reputation for bike breaking, snapped five frames in the last 10 years 🙄
I'm sensing a lack of mechanical sympathy perhaps 😉
I've just snapped a tooth on my XO1 cassette 🙁 seeing if Sram will sort out at the moment!!
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My cassette actually seems to still be performing ok with 700 miles on it. The issue for me seems to be my 32T chainring. Has anybody swapped their sram chainring for another brand and can say that the performance and longevity is still good? I use a RaceFace NW ring on my Stumpy running 1x10 and that has lasted ok. Would be interested to hear if anybody has swapped and can say that it has had no detrimental effect, but has improved longevity.
still on SRAM rings until my Absolute Black oval appears,
Well it survived the rocks and grit of Grizedale forest last night, worked OK although maybe a half second slower to change than the old one so not perfect but I'll give it 9/10, it might shift a bit better with a little more tinkering, but that's just the perfectionist in me. As it stands it works and that will do for me.
Still a lot of grinding coming off the old front chain-ring with the new chain, but my 32t chain-ring has arrived today so that should cure that problem.
As an example of how hard I wear out bikes, I noticed my main pivot bearings are starting to let go last night, just a fraction but it translates to a bit of flex on the back end that didn't used to be there. That's after 6 months use of dry trails and no power washing, just lots of hammer down rocky Lakeland descents, oh well off to the bearing shop! 🙂
Tom
So you're a bit of animal, basically!?
My new chain was noisy on my old chainring at first - a sort of creaking noise I'd say, but it quietened down after a few rides.
njee20 - Member
So you're a bit of animal, basically!?
Possibly, or maybe its just the Lakeland terrain we ride on, we were discussing it last night 🙂
good news on my front
now around 1800 miles in and id expect around 250,000 feet of peak district climbing
my shifting as above was it wasn't dropping into 3rd 4th and 11th so thought the cassette was worn/wearing
I then realised when I had a new cable put in at the shop that I had posted my rear shock off, so it was setup with no shock in!
readjusted the cable last night, and its back to shifting in all gears down the cassette perfectly, now slightly hesitant back up the cassette (but fine tuning im sure I could sort it), but all gears back down the cassette like new
my x01 cassette looks pants now after 1900 miles, but its still working and not slipping gears, im basically not using the 42t at the minute, but its still shiting fine and not slipping in that cog also
hoping it will get through winter now and ill just buy chain/chainring/cassette in the new year
Oscillate Wildly - Member
good news on my frontnow around 1800 miles in and id expect around 250,000 feet of peak district climbing
my shifting as above was it wasn't dropping into 3rd 4th and 11th so thought the cassette was worn/wearing
I then realised when I had a new cable put in at the shop that I had posted my rear shock off, so it was setup with no shock in!
readjusted the cable last night, and its back to shifting in all gears down the cassette perfectly, now slightly hesitant back up the cassette (but fine tuning im sure I could sort it), but all gears back down the cassette like new
Cool, I re-tune my gears every other ride to keep them shifting sweetly, more of a check than anything else.
To be honest I could have left my old chain on and it probably would have lasted another 600 miles (6 months) and then just replace the whole lot. But I love my preventative maintenance / fiddling, I blame my friends for suggesting changing chains more frequently and buying a wear gauge as I never had any of these problems in the past 🙂
Tom
[i]Cool, I re-tune my gears every other ride to keep them shifting sweetly, more of a check than anything else.[/i]
Eh?
My bike is lucky to get cleaned every other ride...
Cool, I re-tune my gears every other ride to keep them shifting sweetly, more of a check than anything else.
What do you do to them? I tweak my barrel adjuster there and then on a ride if it needs it, and will examine in a workstand if it's running badly, but what can you actually do as 'routine' maintenance that frequently!?
njee20 - Member
What do you do to them? I tweak my barrel adjuster there and then on a ride if it needs it, and will examine in a workstand if it's running badly, but what can you actually do as 'routine' maintenance that frequently!?
Exactly what you've just described, just a quick check after cleaning and re-lubing that the gears are shifting perfectly and barrel adjustment as required to align the jockey wheel with the 10th or 9th cog.
I find that adjusting while riding can sometimes have a detrimental affect, especially if its covered in mud and then goes out of indexing afterwards.
With any FS bike I'd sooner do any subtle adjustments like that whilst riding it. Cable runs change subtly when the suspension sags, I know my Top Fuel would shift like a bag of spanners on the road if I set it up on the stand!
My bike is lucky to get cleaned every other ride...
im 100% sure id ride less if i was inclined to clean my bike often, my road bike permanently looks like this at the moment
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I come from a MX background where we used to wash bikes in between races, in comparison, washing a MTB after a days [s]racing[/s] riding is a Godsend 🙂
I clean my MTB pretty thoroughly after every winter ride, but not in summer. Winter road bike has had it's seasonal wipe (clean is over generous), that'll see it through until March.
Away from cleaning for a second.... 😀
Has anyone used a Blackspire Narrow Wide Snaggletooth Chainring? It's the only other 94mm boltcircle diameter ring that I can find to replace my SRAM X01-X1 X-Sync Narrow Wide Chainring. Be interested to know anyone's experiences or whether you think it's not worth it and stick with the SRAM. The Blackspire is £20 cheaper.
Got the gears shifting perfect now, just needed a new gear cable, also got a new 32t chain ring which has stopped all the grinding, everything running like new and I can get up the hills easier as well now, think I'll leave it alone for a bit now 🙂
gamerriley - Member
Away from cleaning for a second....
Has anyone used a Blackspire Narrow Wide Snaggletooth Chainring? It's the only other 94mm boltcircle diameter ring that I can find to replace my SRAM X01-X1 X-Sync Narrow Wide Chainring. Be interested to know anyone's experiences or whether you think it's not worth it and stick with the SRAM. The Blackspire is £20 cheaper.
Other options might be a direct mount chain ring from Racespec, Works Components or Absolute black?
Result!!! Sram replaced my XO1 Cassette free of charge 🙂
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Top work 😀
need a new chain, anyone used anything other than XX1?
will be with a Absolute Black ring, i have a kmc x11 dlc thing knocking about, but i know historically there were issues with the 2
dirtyrider - ive been using the x1 chains at 20quid a pop on my xx1 cranks for the last few, last just as long as xx1 but almost 15 quid cheaper! (its the black and silver chain)
What's the weight difference 😉 I have an inner weenie
oh dear 😉
its probably a bit more weight but not that much I would have thought, are you having issues with the xx1 chains?
no issues at all 621 miles on this one on .75 on my park checker
well i think i switched the chain when i think i did, guess i should add "replaced chain" or something to my ride names so i know when i have, CRC orders suggest i bought one in March when i replaced the cassette, then another in May, may would be 621 miles, April would be 1000 miles
Just skimmed this, 1x11 curious as opposed to actively interested- currently 2x10 and 1x10 on mountainbikes.
In short, am I right thinking I could expect a reasonably maintained 1x11 rig to run about 1500-2000 miles over several chains assuming I got front rig size right so the big rear sprocket was something that almost never got used?
I'm running 38/26 on an 11-34 on my main bike right now and very rarely get to the bottom of the granny. I'm assuming regular gear-inch type calculator approach to figure relative ratios is all that's needed?
I'm seeing a lot of 1x10 riders on other forums reaching for cassette extensions instead of accepting smaller front rings, which seems all wrong.
in short, am I right thinking I could expect a reasonably maintained 1x11 rig to run about 1500-2000 miles over several chains assuming I got front rig size right so the big rear sprocket was something that almost never got used?
Yep, I'd say if you use the 42 sensibly, rather than never. If you're dropping into it for every single climb it's not gonna last.
[i]I'm seeing a lot of 1x10 riders on other forums reaching for cassette extensions instead of accepting smaller front rings, which seems all wrong. [/i]
+1
I'm looking for a new bike and have realised that if I buy one that can't take a 28T then I need to budget for a new crankset that can.
I currently use a 30t front ring, and use the 42t a bit too often so i think i will be dropping to a 28t for a while. I'm really not bothered about going fast on flat so high gears don't interest me too much, gravity gives me all the speed i need.
Its lasting well so far though, i keep it in my mind while riding to keep the drivetrain as clean as possible so if its caked in mud i had for the nearest stream and ride through it, nothing worse than hearing that grinding noise.
I'm seeing a lot of 1x10 riders on other forums reaching for cassette extensions instead of accepting smaller front rings, which seems all wrong.
Adding a range expander cog to the cassette gives you a lower gear without affecting your top gear or any other gears in between.
Changing your front ring for a smaller ring, gives you a lower lowest gear, but also lowers your highest gear , and all gears in between.
Adding a range expander cog to the cassette gives you a lower gear without affecting your top gear or any other gears in between
Except for the huge gap you introduce to the middle of the block you mean...?
Except for the huge gap you introduce to the middle of the block you mean...?
Some people I know notice this but for the most part I haven't. It might depend on the gradient and/or your cadence when you are on the cogs to either side. For me it's not really a problem, sure it'd be nice not to have it there as a potential worry but without a specific 10sp 11-40 block it's probably the best compromise.
I doubt Shimano would produce such a block as I'm sure they'd rather produce and sell a standard 11-36 along with a triple front ring and mech.
vincienup - MemberI'm seeing a lot of 1x10 riders on other forums reaching for cassette extensions instead of accepting smaller front rings, which seems all wrong.
Range expander means you can keep the higher gears too, I'd not be happy with 11-28 as the highest gear on mine.
FWIW I've never felt there's a noticable gap in the ratios (i did fit a 16T to smooth the gap but even without that, it was OK ratio wise, it just didn't shift amazingly) It's pretty comparable to some of the gaps in 9 speed 11-34, from memory, and not many people were bothered about that.
But then, I ride 1x9 on the road and I think most people would consider that horribly gappy so it's probably partly that it's just something that doesn't bother me. I didn't get on with proper road gearing, I almost never made a single gearshift, I always wanted a bigger change so shifted twice. So, not saying it's not a thing, it just might be a thing that isn't very thingy for you.