[Closed] Would you buy a (new) fatbike for ~£1k?

and the tyres were inflated to 25psi. Not safe to ride out of the store.

The Juggernaut Pro tyres are rated up to 30PSI aren't they?

I ride my Jumbo Jims at ~27/30PSI on the road for less rolling resistence.

Mm93 I did indeed sell my dune. For pittance too really 🙁 but I know have a plus bike that I find more usable tbh.

The dune was a great bike once I swapped tyres and brakes but I found it more of a fun bike than an everyday bike and I needed an everyday bike

The plus isn't as good as fat sometimes and sometimes it's better, for me anyway

I do regret selling somewhat as I only got 285 with spare tyres and deore brakes but I much prefer the plus bike overall and I just didn't have the space to store more bikes.

Thanks for the replies,i think I'm gonna go for it.

On the plus side the bright yellow is very vr46 😉

Firestarter, which plus bike did you get? And can you summarise the trade offs between fat and plus?

Similar to mm93 I have been considering the Dune, but am not sure if full or semi fat suits my needs best.

I currently have a 26" 100mm xc hardtail, that I am considering replacing. The Dune and Charge Cooker midi 1 are on my list. Both are rigid ALU frames and forks and tapered steerer.

Dune has full fat with less than ideal brakes and gears but more modern geometry and wider hub spacing.

Cooker has 2.8 plus tyres with standard hub spacing but better gears and brakes.

I know that the weaknesses on the Dune can be upgraded, whereas the Cooker is better specced but the hub width can't be changed. I am not sure which would be the best all rounder, if any?

Those that have experience with either or both, which would you go for, and why?

Well you can fit 27.5+ or 29+ wheels on the dune if you so desired. Enough said. Buy one.

Well you can fit 27.5+ or 29+ wheels on the dune if you so desired. Enough said. Buy one.

That's true. I am giving it some serious consideration.

check these out! a whole host of 29+ fatbike conversions:

http://forums.mtbr.com/26-27-5-29-plus-bikes/lets-see-your-fatbike-29-plus-conversions-955584.html

Cheers babble, some of those look pretty nice.

I'm not sure I would suit 29+ as I am a short arse at 5'5", and have never ridden a 29er MTB. I've only ridden BMX, 26ers and road/gravel/hybrid bikes which granted are the same wheel size, but with much smaller tyres.

I'll give it some thought though.

you could put 27,5+ wheels/tyres on the dune. the point is the dune is adaptable/upgradable. fatter 4,8 tyres, 29+ or 27,5+ if you want. good frame, good spacing, through axels, cheap as chips. what's not to like? (well, my wife hates the colour...)

this is quite useful if you haven't got your tyre pressure gauge yet:

It would appear my cashback was not approved as i did click and collect and therefore paid instore
Still arguing over it

Does the Dune have a 31.6 seatpost? I may be able to use my spare Reverb as a reason to buy one...

Yes

Holyzeus - Member
It would appear my cashback was not approved as i did click and collect and therefore paid instore
Still arguing over it

I've never been in your situation, but my understanding is TCB works on the basis of getting you to part with cash online after being "recommended" by TCB.

Now if you had been a scout leader, you would be better off paying in-store rather then using TCB, because in-store I've read you get 10% off.

I do sympathise with you though, that ~£40 TCB would help buy some hydraulic brakes (with TCB from elsewhere) and/or a nice tyre upgrade. Good luck in your quest!

Well I couldn't resist,picked up a large this afternoon and put it together myself,i was impressed by the niceness of the frame and paint finish.Only had a ride around the estate on it so far ,gears work well,brakes ok,theyll do for now,steering feels weird.I put 8psi in both tyres,will take it over the chase tomorrow.Thanks for the advice.
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I found on tarmac the inertia of that huge wheel/tyre is magnified hugely

Nobody- just annoyed that it isn't made clear that you can't click and collect, i'd have purchased differently.

1x10d my Dune recently and it's still as good with the most smiles per £ out of any of my bikes, the comfort of a softail, the capability to roll over/up anything and the confidence inducing grip/stability means out of choice it's my go to bike.

Drove all the way from the Midlands to deepest Kent today to pick up my bargain dune. Tested it in Surrey on the way back.

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Haha. That's a great picture. I'm heading out tomorrow to find a bigger tree....

Holyzeus - Member

I found on tarmac the inertia of that huge wheel/tyre is magnified hugely

How I feel it, is that up to a certain speed, fatbikes aren't really that much effort. But it ramps up as the speed goes up. My made up science explanation is that it's hysteresis at work- tyre lag basically, once you get up to a certain speed you're pushing constantly against the tyre's deformation, essentially outrunning your own bow wave.

How many of you have had the [i]'Cor!, where'd you get them tyres mate?'[/i] questioning?? 😀

^^^ Constantly.
It'll be a shame when everyone has fatbikes and this stops.

Thank you.

Did about 22 miles on mine today which is a big ride by my standards,mainly off piste at Cannock.Loved it,the steering still feels strange when on hard,smooth surfaces,but I intend to stay away from them as much as possible ,and will use it for more natural stuff.I love the way it rolls over the big stones and roots and the grip on loose surfaces is great.No problems with it at all,very pleased with it.One thing I would say though,i am 5'10 and got the large and I still ended up with the seat post at max so be aware ,I was going to get the medium originally which would have been way too small I feel.
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good stuff mm! congrats on the new bike.

mm93 - Member

One thing I would say though,i am 5'10 and got the large and I still ended up with the seat post at max so be aware ,I was going to get the medium originally which would have been way too small I feel.

The stock seatpost's fairly wee- I'm 5'10 and using a 400mm post and it works perfectly.

Having purposely avoided this thread since it start, I really shouldn't have decided to finally read it last Friday, the day before my birthday..................... It arrives tomorrow ! !

haha. this thread must be personally responsible for the majority of october's Dune sales!

How many of you have had the 'Cor!, where'd you get them tyres mate?' questioning??

I had something similar in Glossop with my plus sized tyres - "Big tyres mate. Do you ride on mountains?"

Have any of you done the ghetto tubeless split tube thing with the juggernaut tyres?if so is it
A-easy?
B-worth it?
Oh, and what tubes did you use,20" or 24"?

So i've been lucky enough to nab a used Lou for the rear, looks in ok nick still
Whats the opinion for the front 4.8/5.0 but not silly money, a FBF?

How many of you have had the 'Cor!, where'd you get them tyres mate?' questioning??

"If we had tyres like that we'd be OK"
"I need some of those"
"You got an engine in that?"
"It looks like it should be slow but it obviously isn't!"
"**** me I must be really unfit"
"Let this bloke come past he's got more grip than we have"
"There must be a battery in it somewhere"
"Richard! RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD! LOOK BEHIND YOU!"

etc

"Here y'aremate, how did you get your tyres so big" said the local youth.

"I just pumped them up and kept pumping", I replied.

I hope he doesn't try it on his BMX.

I'm keen to convert to tubeless now, but I can't be arsed to read back through the thread to find out what the best solution was.

I think I was initially put off by the suggestion of shoving foam strips inside the rim to help the tyre bead seat (I think).

That, and what does one do if a flat causes tyre to come off rim out on the trail - and you don't have enough PSI to hand to reseat it.

Still, I hate tubes. Want them gone.

I went with [url= http://fattystripper.com/ ]Fatty Strippers[/url] as it actually saves weight.

That, and what does one do if a flat causes tyre to come off rim out on the trail - and you don't have enough PSI to hand to reseat it.

Sigh - they weigh so bloody much though. I swear it weighs me down like an anchor in my camelback.

Did you import the FattyStripper kit from the US? How did that work out price wise?
I have a couple of tubeless valves laying around and am tempted to go a bit Heath on sourcing rim tape a la Northwind. Would be good to source some of those 26" foam rings though.

Just carry a normal sized tube.

Is that wise as a temporary fix then?

Did you import the FattyStripper kit from the US? How did that work out price wise?

I have a couple of tubeless valves laying around and am tempted to go a bit Heath on sourcing rim tape a la Northwind. Would be good to source some of those 26" foam rings though.

I drilled my rims and cut schrader valves out of old motorcycle inner tubes for mine.

So let me get this right:

1) stick tubeless valve in rim
2) cover rim holes with a length of something sticky and colourful - 3m/gaffer tape style
3) place backer rods either side of inner rim faces(approx 1cm from rim edge)and carefully cover/stick in place with more gaffer tape
4) fit tyre within the 'wall' of rim and backer rod and inflate to seat tyre
5) bung in about a pint of stan's fulid
6) stand back and marvel at your accomplishment. aren't you a clever boy?

i'm interested in this tubeless conversion too, indeed having spent a week with my new fatbike I can safely say i am utterly smitten and have developed a much stronger than anticipated desire to do some upgrades....

The question is, would I have been better off having just bought a more expensive fat bike in the first place! Some maths:

Dune fatty (delivered to Belgium): €550 (thanks Brexit)
Deore hydro Brakes: €90
Scram NX crank: €99 ( https://www.bike24.com/p2129224.html)
Full 1x11 NX kit: €139 ( https://www.bike-components.de/de/SRAM/NX-1x11-fach-Upgrade-Kit-p48765/)

Total: €878

Not too bad I think, for what i will end up with. The only other consideration is that you might need a new seatpost if you are over 5"10 even on the large. (I also needed a slightly longer stem to get the reach right - 90mm - feels great now.) As Northwind has said a few times, if you want a Bluto, the best value fatbike out there is probably the On-one, but otherwise i think this is a pretty good deal, and an excellent frame.

so, my question: would that 1X11 sram cassette fit directly on as a replacement? (i'm fairly sure the answer to that is, yes) Secondly, would that NX 100MM fatbike crank fit, and/or would i need to do some spacing work?? It's says: Bolt Circle (mm): 94mm, 4-arm

Thanks everyone!!

Stay fat.

hmmm, from Northwind's pervious post on the matter in need to look for a 100/170 setup (whatever that refers to? The 100 is the BBwidth and the 170 the total distance between the pedals?) - i think i'll have to get in touch with the online bike folk and ask, because it's not clear to me from the spec on the site...

this is supposed to explain it, ( http://www.fat-bike.de/fatbike-cranks-part-1-en/) but now i am even more confused.

any advice on what i am supposed to actually ask for for the Dune would be much appreciated!

actually, the answer is somewhere on page 44 of this document!

the trouble is, i'm not sure what the question is! (reminds me of hitch-hikers guide to the galaxy)

The 170 refers to rear hub spacing. The Dune runs a 197 rear hub but actually works better with cranks designed for 170 hubs. Main benefit being a narrower Q factor (better for your knees).