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the Dune won over the Voodoo Wazoo for me because of the through axels, their spacing, the 5" potential, the tappered steerer, the very similar frame to the Scott big john worth 2x more (which shares the same hanger), and the fact it sort of glows in the dark - how cool is that!
in other news, it would have been delivered today, but i was at work (imagine that) and they couldn't give me any estimate of what time they might deliver it, even 'morning' or 'afternoon', so i couldn't go back to wait for it.
i should get mine on wednesday. can't wait.
The axle's pretty simple but like slimjim says, make sure the hanger is tight or it could move around and make it hard to thread (the original Dunes had too-short hanger bolts but that should be fixed now, still worth checking for tightness though). Also check the wee black insert on the end of the mech hanger, this is what the axle threads into and it's a seperate part so if it's loose, that can make it a hassle too. (it has a little grub screw to tighten it- it can be adjusted to tweak the tightness/position of the axle)
fantastic thread here about how to set-up/check/prep a budget fatbike (could be any bike actually) - it's nto the dune, but seems pretty similar:
http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/argus-fat-bike-masses-review-assembly-1019867.html
Any Wazoo owners had issues with the 38T chainring? Had to attack a tooth this morning with long nosed pliers, to get it back in line with the others.
Bizarrely happened towards the end if a gentle ride home after a long, pants day at work yesterday!
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Embrace the green, Superstar grips and pedals on. Muckynutz fender too
woooo Holyzeus that's a lot of seatpost! Bike looks great. Mine has just arrived apparently, but I am stuck at work until very late, so I won't get to play until later....
and - sorry to hear about your shitty day nobody - hope things improve. I just looked on chain reaction cycles and a deore 10 speed shifter, rear deralier and cassette can be had for €95 (less €10 discount i think) - could be worth thinking about. (so all in about £80, plus cables perhaps.)
The first fat bike bmx!
Seatpost is within max marks....
I prefer a medium to a large as i prefer to be in a bike rather than perched
on it..
Well apart from a Mojo fd3chris.... 😉
That seatpost looks longer than the seat tube! 😯 😆
Still left wondering if the bent chainring tooth (which rode ok today) was a sign to get a lime Superstar n/w chainring with a set of lime rotor bolts for £21.
I'd probably do it if I knew it would work ok with my 8-speed setup, but it doesn't mention 8-speed, unlike the PX Ring Master.
Holyzeus - MemberI prefer a medium to a large as i prefer to be in a bike rather than perched on it..
Not entirely sure you've succeeded there 😆
Hi Holy how are things?
Well it works for me you grumpy lot 😉
Been made redundant Chris so getting in lots of riding!
You?
Holyzeus - Member
I prefer a medium to a large as i prefer to be in a bike rather than perched on it..
LOLz.... look at that post!
Sorry to hear that mate. I m good as always. Off to Wales on Saturday for a weeks break and some riding so it's not so bad. Hope you get a new start soon.
Still left wondering if the bent chainring tooth (which rode ok today) was a sign to get a lime Superstar n/w chainring with a set of lime rotor bolts for £21.
I happen to have a brand new one of those that went unused as I bought the Aeffect cranks instead, let me know if interested in a discount
If your chainring is anything other than black, you are a deviant frankly.
Question.
Has anyone fitted an On-One carbon fatty fork to their Dune? (I've skimmed all 37 pages but don't think anything is there)
The issue obviously is trying to get hub adaptors for the qr fork.
I'm going to swap my Wazoo over to a Dune and would really like to take my forks with me.
@Northwind With my online alias, do you really think I follow the sheep of conformity? 😈
@Kayak23 Not to mention you would also need buy a convertor headset, from tapered to straight steerer, fitting a Carbon Fatty to a Dune. 😉
You would need to buy a new front wheel not only for QR, but also to have a Rear Disc Spaced hub like the RDS fork, unless you happen to know someone who can lathe 4.8mm off the disc mount. 😆
There's 3 RDS Hope Fatsno QR front hubs left at CRC for <£60 IIRC, to either buy alone, or get a wheel made up with them using their custom Hope build.
Btw, what crown race did you use to fit the Carbon Fatty fork to the Wazoo and did you do the job yourself?
Topcashback tell me Gooutdoors have declined my payment.
So thats a couple of irate emails just gone off..
@Kayak23 Not to mention you would also need buy a convertor headset, from tapered to straight steerer, fitting a Carbon Fatty to a Dune.You would need to buy a new front wheel not only for QR, but also to have a Rear Disc Spaced hub like the RDS fork, unless you happen to know someone who can lathe 4.8mm off the disc mount.
There's 3 RDS Hope Fatsno QR front hubs left at CRC for <£60 IIRC, to either buy alone, or get a wheel made up with them using their custom Hope build.
Btw, what crown race did you use to fit the Carbon Fatty fork to the Wazoo and did you do the job yourself?
Been trying to figure out if my Carbon On One forks are compatible (except for qr adaptors) with the Calibe Dune front wheel but my head is hurting now and I'm no clearer 🙂
Info is pretty sparse on these bikes it seems, but I suppose it always is with 'budget' bikes.
Reading back through the thread would suggest that the Dune uses a 150mm front hub, whereas the OO fork I have uses a 135mm spacing.
Maybe I'll have to get rid of the carbon forks... 😥
Nobodyofthegoat- The steel fork that came with the Wazoo was a straight steerer, and the OO carbon fork was a straight steerer so no change needed.
As you say, 150mm on the Dune, for Bluto compatibility and fatter tyres, so the wheel won't fit any of the on one forks. There's still not many cheap 150mm carbon options, as far as I could tell- it's the newer standard and more commonly found on higher end bikes i suppose so it's a different target market, if you're making a cheap fat fork you probably target the biggest pool of old bikes, that're more likely to want low price upgrades
@Kayak23 I forgot about the front hub size, so that's another obstacle! 😆
So to use the OO carbon fork, you need...
A new headset for the Dune, so it installs a straight streerer
A front hub that is 135mm, QR and RDS such as http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/hope-pro-2-evo-fatsno-front-hub-qr/rp-prod136921
Or simply fit a Bluto to the Dune, allowing you to use the Dune's default front wheel and headset.
By the time you've bought a new headset and front wheel for the Dune to fit the OO carbon fork, you should save ~£200 over a Bluto... Unless you come across a bargain like those ones that were at Amazon a while back, or buy second-hand.
So...i finally got my bike set up and had a go on it! Here are my obervations:
- it's much nicer, and better quality, than i was expecting. I find it pretty amazing for the price. The frame in particular is fantastic, and i like the colour much more than i expected. The gears are better than i expected, the cogs, the cranks etc. FSA headset. All not bad really. Like Northwind has said many times on this thread, it really is totally useable straight out of the box with no upgrades at all. I didn't even think the brakes were too bad. Perfectly useable (and i generally hate mechanical disc brakes (i have BB7s on my kona unit - can't stand them because i cannot set them up without huge amounts of play))
- the pedals are awful though, as I expected.
- it is a very reasonable weight, and surprises most people when they lift it up. With all the heavy parts supplied with the bike it is still well below 14kg.
- For my size (6" with shorter than average legs for my height) with the large frame, the seat post is too short, (i need it about 1 inch above the minimum mark to be comfortable) the handlebars are too short and I think the stem could do with another inch as it is a bit cramped for me. All easily sortable though. I don't think i will worry about the seatpost - i'll just run it a bit outside it's recommended setting as there is still a fair mount left. I have a longer bar on my wife's mtb....
- The ride was fantastic. My first time, and it really is a totally different thing altogether! It is not a mtb with downsides, which is sort of what I expected, it is another beast which serves a different function. Fine on the hills, although a little draggy, but still pretty spritely, and nothing to worry about. Fantastic once it gets going, really unstoppable and easy to keep at speed. The best thing was just the fact i could really go off-road like i never have before. I just went everywhere with a big smile on my face, through the forest, across the fields etc. Brilliant!! i have been commuting through the same forest for years and whenever i try to go through the forest floor i get bogged down, but now it's like everywhere is a path. I'll be moving to the countryside in France two years and I think this will be simply great for heading off into the middle of nowhere.
- riding the bike, I was happy with the gears. I quite like the 2x8 set up and was surprised at the smoothness of the rear derailleur. The front got caught up a few time changing up, but I think I can sort that our easily with the top adjusting screw. The brakes were good too, able to lock up the back wheel. I'll be changing them for hydraulic, but I wouldn't worry too much if I didn't have that option.
- there was some self-steer which didn't bother me, but I will need to work out what pressure to have the tyres. I don't have a decent gauge, so I will have to do it by eye/feel. Any tips for that would be welcome. How much side wall deformation do you have when you have when sitting on the bike your tyres at the right pressure?
- anyway, I'm really very happy with it. The cheapest bike I have bought in many years, and so much better than I expected. It's the price of a supermarket bike almost, but really well put together in my view.
Here's a phont of my commute today!
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Looks fantastic. I thought the large bikes were green though?
I will need to work out what pressure to have the tyres. I don't have a decent gauge, so I will have to do it by eye/feel. Any tips for that would be welcome.
I'd recommend getting a gauge when you can. Helps to be consistent.
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/tyre-pressure-gauge-for-fat-bike
The guide I was recommended was to use 1psi for every 10kg I am kitted up. It worked as a good base point for me.
There's still not many cheap 150mm carbon options, as far as I could tell
There's [url= https://www.amazon.co.uk/ICAN-Carbon-Rigid-Fatbike-150mm/dp/B00WNUK4II ]this one on Amazon,[/url]
but quality-wise is anyone's guess.
no, they are all the same colour - glow in the dark yellow.
Ican are a pretty respected brand. TBH it's definitely something I'd consider- the Dune's forks are pretty light but they're harsh. But I don't want to ruin the colourscheme 
Wonder what axle you use with those Icans?
@Rover, the green is the not-yet-will-it-ever-be-launched upgraded Dune. Or maybe just a random green frame they had that they used to mule the parts for the same. Or maybe even just a random green frame owned by one of Calibre's designers or something. I don't think we really know. It's not lumi yellow though so it can **** off.
Some may be ecstatic to learn that the Jobsworth pannier racks (that fit fatbikes) are back in stock at DFS, except they are no longer £13, now £30 before TCB.
Or perhaps not! 😆
I've had a bike of some sort all my life, for ~40 years, but never done the panniers thing ever. Contemplating it now, having seen the much cheaper light at Aldi/Lidl, compared to our much closer to home Sainsburys.
Looking good Babble
@Rover, the green is the not-yet-will-it-ever-be-launched upgraded Dune.
Ah yes, I forgot about all the upgrades. Just remembered the colour!
Hypothetical question here , If you could change the colour of your dune what colour would you like it.? The reason I ask is Im thinking of respraying mine next month as the neon lemon is fairly hideous In my opinion. Im thinking either Kawasaki green , A shiny purple or powder blue like the trek farley.
hahaha what a laugh i just had coming home!! different route, some longer lumpy downhills - just fantastic fun! 😀 It eats cobbles like nothing else (and there are a lot of those in Belgium. love it. can't stop grinning.
i love the colour, but if i were to respray i would go for matt burnt orange i think.
in other news - i have 180mm front rotors, which i was not expecting.
(i'm still smiling - that thing really rolls!)
So then,most people seem to be quite pleased with their dunes,i am about to pull the trigger on one but as I am monumentally tight when it comes to parting with money I want to be 100%!
Does anyone regret buying one?I would be using it mainly around Cannock chase through the winter while I replace all the worn out bits on my anthem which I will then use through the dryer months next year.Does that seem like a good plan?
I took mine to cannock a couple of weeks ago and had a great time, it felt slower in places but an easy lap of follow the dog was only a couple of mins slower than my average on an Anthem and much more fun, in fact I've not ridden my anthem since getting the dune.
Definitely no regrets here 🙂
All this budget fatbike talk is nonsense. What people need is a brand new ICT XL for around £1500. If only there were someone selling one.........
firestarter sold his after not-too-long, so you might ask him about it?
Mm93 as long as you factor in the quality of some components.
Can you afford/will you want to fix or change things while you rebuild your Athem
frame: great
gears: fine
brakes: poor
other bits: fine
price: great
Going downhill: great
going uphill: fine
going off road: great
looking like a berk on a florescent fatbike: brilliant
Is there any way the top cash back deal can be used when buying in-store ?
I get a 15% discount for being a Scout Leader, but have to buy in-store. 😕
no, and topcashback doesn't actually work anyway. Go Outdoors don't seem interested in giving them the money.
mm93 - I've made my Dune my only MTB since purchasing it. I love its geometry and impossible levels of grip - I have spent several hundred upgrading it but it still turns out a cheap easily maintainable bike.
I don't think you can go wrong, it's a small outlay for such a fun bike, and if you find it languishing in your garage for whatever reason you can just knock it out cheap to another buyer who will snap it up.
Main negative I can think of is draggy tyres on hard surfaces (roads/hardpack). I just avoid roads if possible, or ride a bit slower and take in the sights.
It climbs, corners (takes a bit more leverage to turn) and descends way better than you'd expect. It's worth noting how comfortable it is, and it's a demon for pulling wheelies.
I bought a Calibre Dune a week ago to go with my Charge Grater 0 and Mondraker Foxy. I fancied something different and simple and the Dune is that.
Quality seems good, I'm happy with it.
Seems to be a good comfortable ride. No issues going up or down hills aside from the awful cable brakes which scared the c$%p out of me! I changed those sharpish with cheap Clarks M2 hydraulics.
Just make sure you give the bike a once over before riding it, the GoOutdoors 'mechanics' missed the fact the headset was completely loose, the brakes weren't adjusted correctly and the tyres were inflated to 25psi. Not safe to ride out of the store.