[Closed] Worth shelling out on expensive cassettes?

If you have an aluminium freehub body then it is worth paying for XT level cassettes with the larger sprockets on an aluminium carrier so they don't gouge the freehub body and ultimately become a real pain to remove.

or an SLX with the plastic spider arm carrying the larger cogs.

In general no, they cost more and don't last as long. This is not good in the peak distruct where winter produces an abrasive gloop of sand and mud!

or an SLX with the [s]plastic [/s]alu spider arm carrying the larger cogs.

I think XT are worth it, significant weight savings. XTR are harder to justify - marginally lighter, but less durable. X.0 and XX are lighter still, but also even more expensive. Both are fully steel though, so durability should be better than XTR, must say my XX cassette did last very well, but I know a lot of people who've found the opposite.

So... sort of.

XTR are harder to justify - marginally lighter...

The old 9spds were significantly lighter.

But also significantly more expensive.

Pro road teams used to run Ultegra cassettes a few years back as they lasted longer than Dura-Ace - not sure if this is still the case.

For me xt is a good comprises for my main bike
Not silly money shifts well and light ish

But for the xc hardtail I did splash out on xx cassette for it.
bike only gets used in the summer and does not do mega miles
The while drive chain is xx inc grip shift and works so well , worth the money Erm maybe not

Pro road teams used to run Ultegra cassettes a few years back as they lasted longer than Dura-Ace - not sure if this is still the case.

On the basis they get given them for free that seems hard to believe. More likely they needed a smidgen more weight to meet the UCI limit.

Unless you don't ride much a year is quite along time to get out of a cassette, I used to make them last a year when I was a student but they were properly shagged by the end. Now I use SLX or XT depending on whats in the sales at the time, but I ride SS so much that they rarely get worn out.

A new pg990 is around 40 quid if you look about.
Or buy second hand about £25 for a decent one.
Also changing the chain when worn will improve the lifespan of the cassette.

On the basis they get given them for free that seems hard to believe. More likely they needed a smidgen more weight to meet the UCI limit.

And for that reason quite a few do still use Ultegra ones.

I only ever use deore cassettes and chainrings and the cheapest SRAM chain I can get. I normally get at least two years out of this setup.

Just replaced an old 990 with another, new 990. Planet X were doing good deals and I've been more than happy with my old one. I haven't scrimped on any other part and don't buy new stuff for the sake of it, just replace when the old stuff has worn out. To be honest, my old 990 is still fine but I've bought new wheels so now have the old wheels and chain with slicks on for commuting and new wheels/chain/cassette for off road duty - made sense for a new one with new wheels.

On the basis they get given them for free that seems hard to believe. More likely they needed a smidgen more weight to meet the UCI limit.

some teams buy there kit... though the weight is a real issue as well.

In terms of value/performance you cannot go wrong with an XT cassette, used them for years with no complaints.

Or buy second hand about £25 for a decent one.

second hand drivetrain is not a good idea.

Or buy second hand about £25 for a decent one.

Maybe it is me, but by the time i have finished with cassettes they are trashed and on that basis i would never buy a second hand one, it simply wouldn't work!

I've had a n XT cassette on my HT for about 6 or 7 years and still shifts silently, well worth the money, would steer clear of x9 though, sram cassettes are dreadful in my opinion.

I've had a n XT cassette on my HT for about 6 or 7 years and still shifts silently, well worth the money, would steer clear of x9 though, sram cassettes are dreadful in my opinion.

None of them wear out if you leave them in the shed! 😉

Maybe it is me, but by the time i have finished with cassettes they are trashed and on that basis i would never buy a second hand one, it simply wouldn't work!

Change chains when wear shows and cassettes can last years where I ride.

More likely they needed a smidgen more weight to meet the UCI limit.

They wouldn't add rotating weight. Lots of internet guesswork.....

Just curious to me xt is not exspencive as cassettes go ?

[i]I only ever use deore cassettes and chainrings and the cheapest SRAM chain I can get. I normally get at least two years out of this setup. [/i]

Anything lasts if you don't use it...

Spend as much as you feel you can afford. If you can spend £100 every year on a cassette then why not..

Personally I'd take the XT/SLX everytime, good performance and doesn't destroy the freebody or your pocket.. If you go for a cheap cassette you'll be spending another £50 on a freebody in a years time so won't actually be saving lol.

Unless the freebody is steel then it doesn't matter about damage from cassette. 🙂

Who is saying I don't use it br? I ride regularly in all conditions with the Midlands finest sandy soil. Things get worn quickly around here if they are crap.

They wouldn't add rotating weight. Lots of internet guesswork.....

Utter bollocks.

[url= http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/pro-bike-matthew-lloyds-merida-scultura-sl-36356 ]Lampre[/url], on an otherwise top spec bike. First example I found, but not uncommon.

rotating weight.

at the diameter of a cassette it's the square of FA

I_Ache - Member
Who is saying I don't use it br? I ride regularly in all conditions with the Midlands finest sandy soil. Things get worn quickly around here if they are crap.

Same here and no issues much like you I-Ache

My XX that came with the Nerve has lasted as long as 3 or more XT did on the Rock Springs & is even lighter. No marks on the titanium tho the biggest is alu and might be weak link (I'd heard this can be replaced but don't know any more, anyone?)
So a shed load more but pays for itself over 2-3 yrs.

Weight - not fussed

It's practical reasons that force me to buy expensive.

As mentioned earlier - swiss cheese ali freehubs (*cough* Crank Brothers *cough* ), you need ali spiders on the cassette to stop them eating the freehub.

In my case (again down to CB), I need an ali lockring also else, as happened, the thread on the freehub can be damaged.

And finally (again CB hub fault!)... I'm forced to use Shimano as the screws on the back of SRAM 10 speed cassettes interfere with the hub. A shame as I find the shifting a little smoother and less wear with SRAM cassettes (the fancy XT Shimano one I've got has worn before the chain!).

No marks on the titanium tho the biggest is alu and might be weak link (I'd heard this can be replaced but don't know any more, anyone?)

They're steel, hence lasting well, ti is softer. You can replace the biggest sprocket, but one doesn't tend to use it that much, so it lasts well. Chainrings are normally alu after all, and they last a reasonable time with far more use.

Have to say mine wasn't [i]that[/i] good, but it did seem to last longer. I don't doubt if one was more proactive with chain replacement you could get a good life out of them.

XT is default cassette for me, weight is reasonable, shifting is excellent, lasts well normally get 12-18 months. Good value

Deore ones are available for £15 and my last one has been on the bike for years. But i do change the chain regularly.

Unless your a real weight weenie it's probably not worth the extra for the XT.

Changing chain to preserve a £15 cassette strikes me as a false economy, I'd run it in to the ground and replace chain and cassette together.

Njee20 - would then need chainrings too

Perhaps. I'd still do that though, never really found chainring life varies depending on chain replacement.

I find a chain is worn enough to take out the cassette after 3 months, but will happily last a year until its completely dead. So you'd need 4 chains or £40+ worth to preserve a £15 cassette. Assuming steel rings too, the likelihood is that you'll need a new middle ring, so another £15 or so. Still cheaper.

I'm about to buy a new cassette, I think I'm going to go for a 11-36 Shimano XT (M771)

Could somebody tell me if i'll be okay using my KMC X10 93 chain on this, it's saying in the description that it's for use with "Super Narrow 10-speed HG chains"?

Thanks

Any 10 spd chain will be fine (and some 9 spd ones)

Changing chain to preserve a £15 cassette strikes me as a false economy,

Not when it's preserving my chain rings too

{Shameless plug}I've a gaggle of vg condition 9 spd cassettes in classifieds, from £15{/shameless plug}

Any 10 spd chain will be fine (and some 9 spd ones)

Wouldn't advocate using 9 speed chains on 10 speed blocks. But yes, any 10 speed chain will be fine.

jdwafc - Member

Also changing the chain when worn will [s]improve the lifespan of[/s] skip like **** on the cassette.

IME

My 2p - As people have mentioned -
Lighter weight (not a big issue for most)
Less damaging to alloy free hubs
But also a more open design so sheds mud better and easier to clean, which adds up to better shifting for longer
9 speed - XT or x0 here depending on which is cheapest (on one often have cheap cassettes)
10 speed I recently switched to on one bike which is XT
Wouldn't consider going down to Alivio, Deore levels cassette is fairly significant in terms of bike working as it should

mattk - Member
Not when it's preserving my chain rings too

I find chain rings last forever. I've only ever replaced them due to upgrades and the old ones never look particularly worn.

Cassettes, too many. Though I'm leaning towards ignoring the frequent chain replacement idea as I still find I need a new cassette if I do change the chain else it skips, but if I leave it on there it's actually working fine so why not run it into the ground and change both when they really need it.

Okay maybe I'll be changing chain rings then, but they're cheap and I only have one of them to change.

And my other theory is, clutch mech will deal with slack chains slapping about due to wear over time. Maybe.

9 speed - XT or x0 here depending on which is cheapest (on one often have cheap cassettes)

10 speed X.0 cassettes are more than XTR - they're over £200. Assume you mean PG990s?

I run xtr with an xtr cassette. The engineering is superb and I get a kick out of it every time I use it. I sit on my arse all day in the rat race, drive a crap car and feel happy spoiling myself.

I use a chain bath and replace the chain at 75% wear. On 3rd chain so far.

Only cassette I've managed to eek out more than one chain from is XTR M980. XT wouldn't even take a new chain after 5 months.

GB

[i]I run xtr with an xtr cassette. The engineering is superb and I get a kick out of it every time I use it. I sit on my arse all day in the rat race, drive a crap car and feel happy spoiling myself.

I use a chain bath and replace the chain at 75% wear. On 3rd chain so far.
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+1

Me too. Although after breaking my XTR crankset a couple of weeks ago I'm currently slumming it with an XT I had lying around 🙂