What's occurring ??
Just built up my Transition Bandit (what a machine by the way) took her for a spin and passed quite a few road bikers on my way to some of roading they aged from 18-70 and not one of them acknowledged me even though I said hi ??
Has the tight Lycra made them mute or is it something else ? I won't bother next time my turn to be ignorant
Mostly just a nod or a raised finger. Maybe you missed them?
It’s just you.
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Sometimes I’ll get a friendly hello from them, but it’s usually the minority. I do however love to give the moody roadies who stare straight ahead and ignore my existence a very big and loud ‘speshul’ hello. It usually wakes them up.
Its got to be the Lycra, I’m sure they’re all in denial and pretending nobody can see them. Or they’re totally zoned into a back water starva segment attempt......
Fine with me. Unless they're really going for it I usually get a hi. Usually a polite call before they overtake...
No problems.
Haha, don’t feel bad. Even when on my actual road bike they only started to acknowledge my existance once I started wearing fingerless gloves!!
If removing the valve core and using a bit of sealant doesn't work then you could try adding another layer of tape.
I've heard all sorts of explanations over the years from being too in the 'zone' to even know we are there ..but the one that made me chuckle the most was that they don't like the fact that we are hurting our bikes by taking them off road and wearing out parts / getting them dirty..
This was from a fairly serious rider..
I now only speak when I am spoken to .. 😉
I usually acknowledge most people when I'm out on the road bike.....except for those who're making a big fuss and a scene, shouting "hi" and waving their arms. I've found they're generally MTBers on Enduro bikes, they definitely need to learn some social skills; I imagine they refer to their bike as a female aswell. Truly weird.
Just a nod of the head or a raised finger usually. No need to get all shouty/ wavey/ stop for 20 minutes.
I think y'all worry too much.
#bluesteel init.
Phew! I thought I'd missed the monthly moan thread.
Hint to the OP - try removing your Gimp mask before heading out on a ride.
Nice to know it's not just me think I'll just keep myself to myself and be known as 'that grumpy mountain biker I saw today'
The look on two roadies faces as I passed them up Beacon Hill on my Wazoo (with 33mm tyre installed) on Thursday, while saying hi, was priceless. They took great exception and tried to stick with me, I just kept spinning and didn't look back 😆
I dozens of MTBers and all the grumpy sods do is ride 3 abreast, blind you with daft lights when its dusk and completely fail to hold a conversation at 20 mph. And they wear a silly uniform!
I've said "Hi" to a bunch of MTB'ers in Goyt Valley when on my Road bike - got ignored completely.
There are grumpy idiots everywhere.
I wave at them like a loon when I'm on the fat bike.
Sometimes they smile. I always do.
the ones
are extraterrestrial bikers.never say hi
No matter if road or mtb.
Disguising both.
aged from 18-70
The ones around 70: these are the dangerous ones.
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99% seem to smile or nod back to me. Once I was even sat down on a verge waiting for a friend and had a large group of roadies pass by over the course of a few minutes. Nearly every one asked if I was ok.
Most days I feel like waving back at other riders. On some days, I just plain miss a rider coming past from the other direction, not cos I'm grumpy or riding my road bike.
I don't wave at other car drivers or other Skoda drivers [if we're talking about being social with people in fairly arbitrary/coincidental communities]....
Always say hi. Except in Richmond Park, where it gets a bit tedious.
Wished a few walkers Merry Christmas on Christmas Day. I don't think one replied 🙁
From experience cyclists (including myself) riding road bikes raise a hand or nod to other road cyclists, they don't often acknowledge mountain bikers / kids on bikes / chavs on bikes / commuters etc.
These same cyclists on mountain bikes off road acknowledge other mountain bikers and walkers etc they see on the trail.
Because some dick on a mountain bike was blowing out of his ass trying to pass them while they were on their way to a 100mile solo ride .
Local trails so wet I did a not #gravel ride yesterday, got overtaken by a tractor on a road climb then big procession of cars idling past stuck behind tractor, I was almost sick from the fumes. Horrible.
Whether roadies acknowledge me or not doesn't bother me, I always say hello. What does annoy me is other mountain bikers in the forest who don't say hello or anything, especially when they are on trails I've spent days, weeks or whatever building.
Most roadies do seem to say hello though.
I would have ignored you just as I ignore everyone else when I am riding (Unless I see someone I know).
I don't say hi to everyone I walk past, I don't wave at other drivers why do you feel I should say anything to you?
Could we not make this a sticky for all the sensitive princesses to look at rather than start a new thread every month?
stennah - Member
... and passed quite a few road bikers
Sure you did.
This again? Really?
As primarily a roadie, I always say hi, whether to MTBers, other roadies, or pedestrians. Mostly because I like being nice to people, and find that they tend to be nice in return.
The only exception to this is if I am going swiftly downhill, and my eyes have watered so much, I have to concentrate more on staying alive and upright.
ERGO, I don't know what the OP is on about.
Is this an end of year celebratory 'roadies don't wave at me' thread to reminisce about past roadie indiscretions, or a premature 2018 one to get it off our chests in advance? If ever a sticky was needed on a subject this is it.
edit: beaten to it by wilburt
wallop - Member
This again? Really?
Indeed. Its always the same pattern now, too: I was on a (insert name of nice MTB here) and passed (insert numbers and details of roadies here) on my way to (insert idyllic trail area name here).
Almost as if...[i]its the same poster??[/i]
I said hi ??
Has the tight Lycra made them mute or is it something else ?
took [b][u]her [/b][/u]for a spin
HTH
Oh no, not again!
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t. Not sure why people get so hung up over it...
Sometimes I’m too busy hanging out of my arse
Cyclists IME generally acknowledge each other regardless of what they are riding so it's quite likely it's you and not them. Post a photo of yourself in your riding gear on your Bandit, preferably doing your wave, there are plenty of folk on here who ride road bikes who'll let you know where you're going wrong.
Maybe they got fed up to saying hi to MTB,ers and getting blanked! VOE.
Even roadies know transition bikes, that's why the didn't acknowledge you
Some people wave some dont. Some people are faster and some are slower. Think that's about it.
I tested this out years ago, it's tribal.
On my road bike, roadies would say hi back but not mountain bikers,
Visa versa on my mountain bike.
At a rough guess you live in the south don’t you? (Ie south of Yorkshire) that’s why.
Never felt I've had fewer nods from roadies but will say that when I am on my road bike I need to pay far more attention to the road. Can stop on a stamp on the mountain bike but run brakes and narrow bars mean I have to focus a little more.
I have also noticed that cars often pass closer when I am on my road bike. I think the narrower bars means that some drivers don't t give me the same room if I have wider, mountain bike bars.
Perhaps after 80miles of close passes they are not in the mood to say hello to strangers.
I walk the dog round the local reservoir most days and often take my four year old lad. The other day he asked me why I say hello to the people we pass so I told him it’s because it is a nice thing to do. He understood and now says hello and waves at people. When they say hello or wave back it makes him smile.
I do both and always wave or nod. MTB is snobbier in my experience. Sad really. I used to get looks of disapproval from mtb'ers as I rode my unfashionable hardtail. But alas. I could ride all the same trails they did.
I only wave at cyclists in full matching kit(road or mtb) shows they’re serious !! I ignore everyone else 🙂
I try to say hi but then choke on my own spit. Usually raises a smile.
Agree with Chestrockwell, why wouldn't you say hello to people when you walk past (urban areas excepting).
Re. The roadies, they are saying hi but they are going so fast compared to your slow knobbly tired struggling it's getting Doppler shifted out of the human ears hearing capacity
I'll nod/raise a hand/finger/say "hi" to all cyclists I meet. Most respond, some don't. The exception will be if I'm coming up to a junction and have to concentrate, deal with changing lanes, etc.
On my commute I'll say "hello" or "good morning" to those walking on the canal tow path and will get a response (being a commute you usually see the same people in roughly the same spot every day as they walk the dog, etc.). There's one guy who never responds or acknowledges anyone. Don't know why, he just looks straight ahead and blanks you. He happens to be on a mountain bike but I doubt he'd be any more sociable on a road bike or on foot.
I've always wondered why I get called a **** by mountain bikers because I don't wear stupid baggy shorts when I go mountain biking.
A lot of mtb-ers are massively condescending and rude, particularly if you don't 'fit in' with their IT oriented rules and regulations.
This is similar to motorcyclists (grown ups) that don't acknowledge kids on scooters/mopeds.
It's more to do with the kids on scooters riding like idiots ignoring the rules of the road and setting a bad image of motorcyclists.
Maybe roadies see mtbrs in the same way lol..? 😀
what a machine
I think we know who the real monster is here.
Glad I started this post some very funny comments / replies and quite a few ideas for my next blanking session thanks everyone and a great new year to you all
jimmyoto - Member
Haha, don’t feel bad. Even when on my actual road bike they only started to acknowledge my existance once I started wearing fingerless gloves
You sure they were proper roadies?
Anybody wearing gloves - of any sort - whilst not actually racing is not in the clique ... and not worthy of acknowledgement.
I take my road bike all over the world. I’ve found that in “honeypot “ areas, eg the GoldenGate Bridge in San Fran, where I’m heading tomorrow, there are too many self important tosses trying to look “pro” . As you get out into the big hills, on big rides, everyone acknowledges each other - kind of a sign of respect that you acknowledge the other rider is on a big one, rather than parking in the car park for a 10k peacock strut!
I'm a roadie, whilst out today I saw a bloke on a hybrid, with suspension and tri bars. I even said good morning to that weirdo so we are not all that bad!
AA, was he on this bike?
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Why do <<insert mode of transport user>> always seek to stereotype <insert mode of transport user>>?
Why do we constantly seek to create divisions as if there is a clearly defined them and us?
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Why do drivers always....
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Why do motorcyclists always....
Anyway....back to the original question. I don't think it's anything to do with them being roadies. I think it's just that people have an eye for "like us" and "not like us".
If I take myself as an example......I'll generally say hello/alright/good morning to everyone I pass as a courtesy (whether I am riding my road bike, CX bike or MTB). But for people coming the other way I think I do a conscious assessment. If they're riding a road bike or decent mountain bike I will say hello. If it's an old blokey commuter with a sit-up-and beg bike and a fluoro waistcost....I generally don't bother and have learned from experience that they don't either.
Also for roadies the nod or raised finger can be very subtle - if you aren't looking at them at the same time, you can miss it.
PS When I'm in my VW T4 I will generally wave at other T4s that are obviously not just worky-vans, but don't bother with Bays/T5s etc...
I got ignored by some mountain bikers this morning when out on my road bike. Conversely, I got a cheery "Hiya" from some serious looking lad who just flew past me like I was stood still.
I also got a wave or nod from other mountain bikers and other roadies.
So I don't think it matters what you're riding, what you're wearing, there is no obligation on anyone to be cheery and say hello. Some do, some don't. So what.
AA, was he on this bike?
Could well have been yes!
The ride has not yet been posted to the newbury cc facebook page though!
I'm a friend to all cyclists, no matter what their sub-niche, sadly I wasn't out today to wave at you, so have some Southeast Asian themed Internet waves instead:
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I take my road bike all over the world. I’ve found that in “honeypot “ areas, eg the GoldenGate Bridge in San Fran, where I’m heading tomorrow, there are too many self important tosses trying to look “pro” . As you get out into the big hills, on big rides, everyone acknowledges each other - kind of a sign of respect that you acknowledge the other rider is on a big one, rather than parking in the car park for a 10k peacock strut!
I don't think it's a honeypot phenomenon, it's just a 'density of riders' phenomenon. I get tired saying hello to everyone I pass on my commute, it just gets stupid after rider No.20.
Conversely, out exploring the back roads above Falkirk, I'm surprised if I see one other rider, so usually try and make (brief) chat when I pass.
Funny how you never see a roady equivalent of 'why don't those nasty MTBers acknowledge me', maybe they're less insecure 😆
[i]Almost as if...its the same poster??[/i]
I Googled
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/unfriendly-roadies
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/new-roadies-miserable-joyless-or-have-i-missed-something
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/roadies-why-so-miserable
Ere, me and my kid saw a roadie on an orange bike this morning, going down the Rogate hill at a ridiculously fast speed, road all wet from the rain. As he sped round the bend his back wheel did a little wiggle. Jeez, nutter! And not a wave or smile from the miserable sod!
13thfmonk - that’s undoubtedly true. Maybe it’s a San Fran thing (I ride there a lot) but I’ve started noticing, whilst stopped for a coffee, the phenomenon of people parking up, fully kitted out, expensive (often with tri bars) Bike, comes out. A few laps of Sausalito waterfront, looking very pro, then back in the car & drive off!!
Try it in different countries to see cultural differences. Maybe a 50% wave rate in French Alps (and dunno what % of those were foreign tourists). Italians were friendly and responded to waves but didn't instigate them.
Wave in Belgium and they look at you like you're mad.
I always wait for the other rider to wave first.
Just a nod, thats all you'll get from me. I'd like the same back please.
As a motorbikerist it seems to be an unspoken rule not so on my bicycle.
I nod at Motorbikes when I'm on my bicycle too! 🙂
Hi
to busy chasing strava segments
1- you are going faster so the opportunity for plesentaries is less
2 - its harder to take your hands off the bars
3 - when i'm on the mtb i'm usually bimbling along having fun, when on the road bike i'm more often than not blowing out my ass in a foul mood wanting it all to be over asap
Roid-rage?
Becoming aware of just how stupid normal people look in Lycra?
Just being, on the whole, miserable ****s?
I've come to the conclusion that no-one bothers any more
the endless risk of ****t drivers about to close pass or overtake on a blind bend is one reason but also people are just generally miserable/not arsed/not expecting a return so don't offer - I went out this afternoon to do a double Affetside loop and nobody waved, not mountain bikers, not the old roadie geezers, not the aldi clad new riders but it's really nowt to be too bothered about
you're out on your bike, this is the by far the most important thing
have you seen what the silly ****ers wear? I too would keep my head down and keep schtum someone might recognise me
In general, I've got to say that lady Roadies nearly always say hello back while their male companions just scowl. Not sure why?
have you seen what the silly **** wear? I too would keep my head down and keep schtum someone might recognise me
Are you a roadie talking about mtb riders or the other way around? Could be either really 🙂
mrblobby and I crossed paths on our respective road rides today, but we're both so pro we can't remember if we waved or not.
Has the tight Lycra made them mute or is it something else ?
Believe it or not the roads are quite dangerous for road bikers and when doing 40 mph they're often busy avoiding pot holes or looking ahead to make sure nobody pulls out of a side road on them. Or climbing a hill pushing 400 watts/200 bpm out of breath and trying to concentrate.
Or maybe you just look like a ****?
In general, I've got to say that lady Roadies nearly always say hello back while their male companions just scowl. Not sure why?
Pissed off that 'er in doors is coppin' an eyeful of another man's tightly bound package.