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I'm riding MM for as part of a team of five. I've never done anything like this before so I'm not sure which steed to use. We're not going to be going for a win or setting any lap records - just doing it for fun.

The options are my Orange Alpine 160 which I ride on a weekly basis around Saddleworth and the Dark Peak, or my Jamis Dakota (100mm hardtail) which I rarely ride since I moved to the hills.

MM doesnt sound technical but do I use the Apline for comfort and familiarity? It has minion 2.3s on it so I could use skinnier tyres for reduced rolling resistance.

I'd appreciate any thoughts from none xc whippets that have ridden 24 hour events on a big bike.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 10:58 am
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It's an XC race. Not the alps. You will have a horrible time lugging a 35lb full susser around what is essentially a flat boggy course in the midlands. Take the hardtail.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 11:00 am
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if it rains you want mud clearance, infact just take a pair of walking boots!

I personally wouldn't use a 160mm travel bike on that course, the Malvern course is basically one big climb followed by one big smoothish decent. It isn't quite that clear cut but should give you some idea of what to expect.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 11:03 am
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Hardtail.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 11:04 am
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You could of course do it on the Alpine but why make it more difficult for yourself?


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 11:06 am
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Hardtail, anyting else wil be too much hassle and OTT for the course


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 11:06 am
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I am taking two bikes....just 'cos I can.

I expect to use the HT if its wet and will use FS just to get some miles in on it....

Did MM last year and doing it again just to do it properly this time (not enough clothes, fitness or food last year)


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 11:09 am
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I'll be taking a 29er hard tail, plus another 29er hard tail as a spare bike.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 11:38 am
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Munrobiker said FLAT boggy course. Certainly isn't flat,with ,i think,over 1000 ft of climbing per lap last year.Out of your bike choice,the hardtail would be the better bet.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 11:43 am
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Singlespeed is what you need 😉

Done it on a hardtail for the first few years and found the ss much faster for the last few, even dressed as I do!

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Posted : 19/05/2012 11:55 am
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Doing it solo and taking my trance x and single speed.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 11:56 am
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Hardtail! There's a fair amount of climbing on the course. There are few roots and no rocks, so no need for big tyres or full suspension.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 11:57 am
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It'll be my 6th in a team of 4 this year. First 3 were on ht last 2 on full suss. Taking both this year. Ht definately faster especially if muddy but as I'm getting older and softer the fs is nice to have if the ground's rock hard and your getting knackered lap 4,5,6.....

Having said that it's only 100mm rear FS. Wouldn't dream of taking an alpine.....you'll just get passed by the uni cyclists up the hills and that would be embarrassing.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 1:09 pm
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Wouldn't dream of taking an alpine.....you'll just get passed by the uni cyclists up the hills and that would be embarrassing.

Not as embarrassing as being overtaken on a descent by a unicyclist, and a man in a sumo suit on a singlespeeder.

Not that I'd know...


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 1:14 pm
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......Nope, never happened to me either Mrs Toast 🙄 😳


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 1:48 pm
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1400ft+ of climbing per lap. I'd say that's anything but flat myself!

Anyway... Weight and mud clearance are usually more important than suspension. If it rains at all, fit the narrowest tyres you can lay your hands on. If it stays dry, count yourself very lucky, run the fastest tyres you can lay your hands on to minimise drag. I'd still not want to lug any extra weight up the hills at all though. Plenty of quick guys will be running full sus bikes, but they'll be 100mm travel affairs and often made of carbon, not 160mm with slack angles and dual ply tyres.

Remember, even though you're not competing, you will get competitive with yourself and others. A big heavy bike will be demoralising and will reduce the fun factor IMO.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 2:07 pm
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Not as embarrassing as being overtaken on a descent by a man in a sumo suit on a singlespeeder.

Sorry 😳 All that weight helps us!

Pop along to the Sumo Disco tent during the weekend for a free hug 😉

All for a good cause you know!!!


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 4:48 pm
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Better get some miles on the Jamis Dakota in the next month then. HT It is. Probably take the Alp as back. We have a few teams running and are hiring a big yurt so pop over for a chat. Here's guys.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 6:21 pm
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Yep take both, I'd ride the hardtail through choice. Hilly: yes, but technical: no.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 6:42 pm
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It's not that hilly, really.


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 6:46 pm
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It is hilly & is made worse by the fact that some of them are grassy/draggy climbs.Throw in the torrential rain that's gonna come down(it always does)& it's going to nightmare up some of those climbs,so H/tail it is then........


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 8:23 pm
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SC V10 in carbon of course to save weight on them grass climbs 😉

Seriously leave your big bike at home and take your hard tail have fun it's a great event


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 8:39 pm
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it's the only place that can rival Catton for it's ability to turn into an unrideable bog when it rains

the sections they cut through the grass are especially great for destroying rear mech's in the wet

tbh take any bike, there will be people on unicycles and BMX's taking the piss anyway


 
Posted : 19/05/2012 10:30 pm
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take the hardtail and if it rains stick a plastic tent peg in your pocket to help dig the mud out from around your frame and tyres.
Take lots of kit with you.
Use bottles as opposed to camelbak.
Don't take it too seriously and try to have fun.
For added plus points try to blag the dawn lap - start in the dark finish in daylight - its always special.


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 7:29 am
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Mayhem isn't about the course... Although being prepared for the Somme when it rains always helps. 1.5 mud tyres essential!

It's about getting so many thousands of people together to ride bikes.

GB


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 7:35 am