[Closed] What's the point of jumps?

Go back home granddad, leave the kidzzz to their fun....

😉

DrP

People don't "go for a walk" by standing around in the woods and watching each other jump up and down.

Err, yes they do... [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sex ]dogging[/url]

hmm, maybe i miss-heard and it's really [b]dirty jumping[/b] rather than dirt jumping?

Was talking to my mate about this yesterday. I can't jump, trying but failing for the most part, but some div/s decided to takes three consecutive rollers and make the roll-off point so deep, actually rolling it is dangerous. The irony being that they were built in such a way, intentional or not, that, if you were adept at jumping or learning to jump, you could hit these and still jump. Beggars belief. It's a fairly tech trail but rideable for a good majority; now it favours the minority. Plain dumb.

People don't "go for a walk" by standing around in the woods and watching each other jump up and down.

They just do it to annoy you.

....Eventually everything will be jumps!

Bring it on!

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I was old when i was young too.

PS: I can't do jumps.

There's ^^^^ the answer

What's the point in long distance rides? I can't do long distance rides.

It's almost like there are many aspects to our sport, and something for everyone to enjoy, but that most people don't enjoy all of them. Odd, huh? It's almost like life.

I like jumps, they're fun and I don't get all sweaty and tired like real Mountain Biking.

Not dirt jumps though, they look scary.

There's ^^^^ the answer

Thanks! I was wondering why I wrote that 😉

I've nothing against jumps but the ground is obviously better. You've got mud, ruts, rocks, roots, all manner of mountain biking. Whereas the sky is smooth and boring.

Perversely though I do like jumping when there isn't an official jump and you're using a root or something to take off. Artisan free-range jumping.

A milk crate and an old ironing board innit?
40 years ago, but I'm sure I could curl out a rad One Handed Superman Seatpost Insertion if required.

I just don't feel like it today, ok?

Must be easy, kids do it.

Jumps are for chumps

i'm 43, and i LOVE jumping stuff!

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woosh, fly, set me free, free as a bird.......

(try not to end with thud... smash... tumble....crunch.....snap obvs 😉

I'm 57 and love jumping - so there!

I love airtime even though I'm rubbish at it.

I guess riding smoothly over rough terrain always feels good, so viewed from that perspective jumping is the highest possible endeavour

Try paragliding, it's like riding a 100% jump trail with no messy dirt at all. I'm rubbish at that too, mind

Some people are addicted to it, the brother of mine hit a large gap drop at Hamsterly blind (as in didnt check it out before hand)...for fun... the other day...

Its a different mindset.

It's rad and makes for good pics on facey-b.

Pics of simply riding along, without skidding or being well gnar, are boring.

Jumps are for chumps

Some people are addicted to it

To stop white men in their tracks. 😉

Jumps are okay it's those bloody roots all over the place that are the problem.

I enjoy jumps as part of a trail, its all part of the tapestry of the ride.

Specifically dirt jumping, if thats what people want to do then fine, but its not really mountain biking IMHO

Jumps are okay it's those bloody roots all over the place that are the problem

Massimiliano agrees with you

I like jumps if they're on route or more natural jumps but not really into standing around riding the same jump over and over. When I was a kid I was the same. I got bored jumping and watching others do the same but then I wasn't very good at it so I guess that's why I was bored. I was more into trials and always looking for challenging hills to ride up and down. I was the first of my mates to be able to track stand but the last to be able to bunny hop.

It's all down to what you get a buzz from. XC, Trail, Trials, Jumping, DH, it's all mountain biking after all.

I'm the miggeda miggeda miggeda miggeda mack daddy.

I did a jump once

Gives the arms a rest a d your legs for bit.

PS: I can't do jumps

Imagine that.

I don't mind the jumps (although I rarely get 'air') but the thing that does wind me up is the twisting of bars on videos when in the air. WHY DO THIS?!?! The more I see it the more it annoys me!

Because it's fun?

Because nobody likes the look of a dead sailor!

Because it looks cool - the logical end point is being able to carry off a proper "bubba scrub" - which will madsively improve your riding control.

I love jumps but there aren't any on the local stuff so when I go somewhere with jumps (like Revs last Friday) I can start to get it right by the end of the day. Then I go back to my normal riding and forget how to do it..

I'm 43 too:
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I love jumps but there aren't any on the local stuff so when I go somewhere with jumps

I love jumps but there aren't any on the local stuff so when I go somewhere with jumps

There are one or two but you need to know where to look, also places like Ribbesford with a few bits not too far away.

Don't forget Bike Park Malvern (TM) 😉

It's so you can save energy by not pedalling while your flying through the air...

Crashing also gives you another rest while you recompose yourself in front of everyone.

People don't "go for a walk" by standing around in the woods and watching each other jump up and down.

I've just been "out for a walk" round Derwent Water, with my two year old.

That's pretty much exactly what we did. It was great! 😆

Re:broken vid link above.. Is it van halen by any chance 😉

\m/ .I give up trying to post videos .

Go and spend a day learning the basics from Jedi in his field, then try to leave without a massive grin on your face.
You'll get it then.

choppersquad
spend a day learning the basics from Jedi in his field

This^^ x10!

Like this in fact:
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I should also add, for anyone who can't jump, yes you can, you just need to practice! I'm the worlds worst jumper, took me probably 2 years to 'get' it, but now i can jump. So if i can, you can too!!

Personally, I would go to someone who knows how to do it properly like Tom Dowie at Chicksands.

Sometimes people say they are "going mountain biking" but then just cycle to some jumps and stand around looking at the jumps and riding the jumps once every 10 minutes and getting really excited.

Yeah, these same folk aspire to snowboarding. When they hit the mountain they find a bowl then sit around talking about how great snowboarding is. Meanwhile, skiers are skiing.

Back to "why ride like this", my favourite aspect of riding has to be ... variety.

Some of the work that lurks in our hidden woods defy belief.
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cyclelife - Member
Personally, I would go to someone who knows how to do it properly like Tom Dowie at Chicksands.

Yeah, these same folk aspire to snowboarding. When they hit the mountain they find a bowl then sit around talking about how great snowboarding is. Meanwhile, skiers are skiing.

Except that most people, who never bother to sit around working on technique are shit riders.

The dirt jumpers I know can keep up with all but the fastest privateers on actual trails - and they hardly ever bother riding them. It's a mixture of psychology and physicality that does it - these are people that send it big and really don't care about lawn darting the ground with their heads from 20 foot up. Getting good at it, builds muscle memory and puts you in tune with your body in a way that just getting out for a ride - really doesn't.

You lot might might snort, but you'd only ever see the back of them on any decent black run. The best of them, **** around on BMX's and Motocross bikes as well - and end up on the World Cup DH circuit.

jumps just spurt you with a dose of adrenaline

My youngest lad jumping (learning) when he was about 10.

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Fast forward to last years Hamsterley Beast when he's 30..(nearly jumping)

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I can't/daren't jump!

And I bet your lad can ride better than most on here Essel. Nothing like dossing around on your bike outside your house to build technique.

Great pics, reminds me to say thanks to my parents for giving me the opportunity to grow up riding.

😉

OP, thats the best opening post I've read in a long time. Proper laughed out loud - even the missus found it chortle worthy.

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And I bet your lad can ride better than most on here Essel. Nothing like dossing around on your bike outside your house to build technique.

Cheers Tom. He's slightly better than me that's for sure! (I can wind him in on some climbs though!)
He did a bit of street trials & used to jump off bus shelters. Twerp!

Every time I have less than 1 wheel on the ground a little bit of poo comes out.

Doesn't stop me though.

To keep you tube fresh with new crash vids?

The photo's are way less dull than bike and view ones
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For me bikes = play. I'm not the best jumper, but love kickers on the trail. I'll never be great on big tabletops or doubles but that's okay. I'm 42 but about 12 when I'm out on two wheels.

I love a natural jump/drop. I surpose I won’t attempt a made up gap jump as I don’t want to crash out spend any amount of time off the bike with an injury. If you can do em then do em.

I do remember myself and a mate age 14-ish (100 odd years ago) jumping 10ft/plus with a springy long board set on a stack of bricks using our ‘scramblers’ a bike built from an old racer with cow horn handle bars on them……

I love to jump, but i am spectacularly rubbish at them sadly.... Anything high and i'm likely on a trip to A&E afterwards. Which is a shame.... but it's too painful a learning curve for me to do these days.

Is it time for biscuits?

Apparently not 🙂

zippy thanks for that vid, very cool trails. Most people cannot imagine how much work it is to get trails to that level. The trails riders I know spend every spare minute at the trails digging, sweeping, watering etc. and often sleep there as well under tarp.
Which makes it all the more gutting when they get ploughed.

Except that most people, who never bother to sit around working on technique are shit riders.

This.

Generally the same people that buy kit in the hope it'll make them good*.

*Yes, I like new kit as much as the next man, but I am under no illusion that it'll make me a better rider.

As your chances of a successful landing increase, so does the joying attained from jumping. If you don't like the feeling of flying through the air, then do it for the aural pleasure - for it is surely the truth that this is the sweetest sound in all of bikingdom

Oh! And that spot Zippy!!! Heaven on earth 😀

I like jumping!

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Aye. Practice, practice practice. Nobody is predisposed to being good at jumping (or anything else), only predisposed to wanting to practice stuff to get better at it. If "natural talent" is a thing, that's what it is.

There's a general lack of the culture of repetition in MTB that dominates BMX, skateboarding, dirt jumps etc - lots of folk just like to ride big loops. Which is cool, but practicing specific skills is what makes you a better rider.

philbuh - Member 
Yeah, these same folk aspire to snowboarding. When they hit the mountain they find a bowl then sit around talking about how great snowboarding is. Meanwhile, skiers are skiing.

Sums up me then as a skier and not-very-jumpy mountain biker 😀

My frustration is to the weekend warrior crowd everything is about having a jump (preferably a gap jump) on every trail possible. My choice of fun fast flowy trails, even steep trails, is diminishing as I have to chicken run all the gaps. Tables would be fine, but tables aren't cool, and I'm told they're bad because they don't encourage people to learn gaps (who said I wanted to learn gaps anyway?).

Anyway, I'm not in the cool gang and I still think 'sick' actually refers to being ill, so my opinion on the local trails doesn't count.

Never want to spoil the fun though, but would be nice to have some consideration to those who aren't big into the jumps, aka, can't jump 😀 . Though I have been known to actually get the wheels off the ground occasionally.

Like the OP I've not really considered it essential to my kind of mountain biking. I'm more about getting out there and exploring. Big hills, steep trails, flat trails, rocks, roots, whatever, just ride. Just to me it doesn't mean everything needs a jump in it also.

Jumps are where its at
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@ cyclelife

ill open the biscuits

who are you saying doesnt know how to jump properly ?

I don't mind some natural drops and small jumps (again, not very good at jumping), but it is getting a bit frustrating that a lot of new (man made) trails are designed around a load of doubles and tabletops - guess that's what the kidz want, I suppose...

I suppose I'm not keen on doubles on XC trails and to be fair I think that would be the same whether I was good at them or not (I'm not). I don't think drops and kickers have a place on XC trails either - unless there's a chicken line, despite being comfortable with those. However, on DH trails I don't see why there shouldn't be doubles, big tables etc. Surely that's part of the game?

This video explains it quite well..

I'll have a custard crème 😉

I didn't say that someone doesn't know how to jump - but, that someone mentioned, can jump extremely well and knows how to teach the correct skills involved.

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR - Member

I don't mind some natural drops and small jumps (again, not very good at jumping), but it is getting a bit frustrating that a lot of new (man made) trails are designed around a load of doubles and tabletops

TBH a big part of that is that you can smash in a jump line pretty quickly with a 360 and a good driver, but digging interesting, natural-feeling, durable trail is a lot slower and more labour intensive and arguably harder. (also, this cuts both ways, if joe random goes into the woods with a shovel building a load of berms and tables is an epic job but he can carve out a #enduro trail in a fraction of the time... So if you're the FC or someone wanting to add a trail it often makes sense to make the sort nobody else will)

Agree it's annoying though. There used to be 2 jumps at the bottom of fort william that I couldn't do properly and it drove me mental, I could ride all the hard stuff in decent style then I'd have to slow right down on the motorway.

Come to Bedgebury Forest. We're not allowed to build any jumps there.

lemmy - Member 
Come to Bedgebury Forest. We're not allowed to build any jumps there.

And get charged an outrageous amount for parking.