[Closed] What are bottlerockets and bloods like in comparison to a spec pitch?

Ive never ridden a pitch or a blood. I've recently bought a bottlerocket as my only bike though.

The geometry is ace, low bb and short stays lie you mention above. Tiny standover means you need a long seatpost but gives enormous standover. I've owned loads of fs bikes and this is the only one I've really enjoyed dirt jumping on.

It's not a 4 bar but with a coil shock it rides ace. You will never break it or even feel it flex. Ever.

It's heavy but IMO has pretty much perfect trail geo. if I were building a trail frame I would steal the geometry but shave a lot of weight!

I'm in notts if you want a go

I have a Nukeproof mega.

alot of bike for 150mm of travel and under a grand price tag...feels very secure on fast rocky downhills. stiff as you like and pretty bottomless

pluses - pretty light. maxle back end, 44mm headtube so can run 1.5 inch steerer for extra stiffness. iscg mounts, slack head angle, uninterupted seatube so can put saddle up/down properly. Great customer service. half the price of some similar bikes!

Minuses - Can't think of any. some would argue the chainstays are long, but I think thats a plus as it jumps just fine and makes it very stable as a result.

I took it to Molini in October and did 22,000m of descending over 5 days chasing my mate on a Trek Session and it was a blast... 😛

You should have a look at a Cove GSpot too if that's the sort of thing you're looking at. I use mine as pretty much my only bike and am loving it. It's lasted the whole season without any problems with the bearings and it's only just worn out the shock bushings. It's definitely not flexy and pedals really well. I use mine for mostly AM (or Enduro if you're not from the UK!) riding, bits of what you'd call XC and bits of DH. I can stay with the big boys on their DH rigs unless it gets really rough but can also pedal with fit friends on their 28lbs XC bikes. I wrote a bit about it and included a few charts comparing some frame geometries. [url= http://www.basquemtb.com/cove-g-spot-review/ ]Cove G-Spot Long Term Review[/url]

Scott Voltage?

I have a BottleRocket.

I really wouldn't want to take it round a "typical" XC loop.

To answer the question: "probably no better and little different inn reality, but with twice the price and half the warranty"

No more Pitches after this year. Grab one whilst you can. 🙂

Mate has one and stuck a Fox DHX4 with ti spring out back. A proper mini downhill bike now (with totems up front) that can still be pedalled a bit. Might solve most of your issues.

i ride my bottlerocket xc twice a week. love it

Surely not as much as you'd love doing XC on a bit more of an "XC" bike though?

Bottlerockets are heavy.

Get a new Enduro 🙂

Bottlerockets are heavy.

Frame weighs 9.7 lbs 😯

Coil shock, with a ti spring and bolt through rear axel.

Or alternatively get a chumba xcl. Strong enough for mini DH, light enough for trail riding.

With an adjustable fork and offset shock bushings it is brilliant.

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duane,
i ride my bike up down and across. i dont carry a quiver of bikes for whats best for each bit

"i've gone through the "main pivot" bearings twice in 9 months"
What bearings are you using?

flow - Member

Bottlerockets are heavy.

Frame weighs 9.7 lbs

my bike weighs 33lb

jedi, neither do. I just have one other bike which I know I much much rather ride XC on 🙂

nope. makes no odds to me

my bike weighs 33lb

What kit you running on it? Sounds about right though, 33 lbs is heavy.

Giant ReignX? Bearings should last 2 years.

rq tubeless on crossmax sx lyrics etc

Fair enough 🙂 I'm not having a go at you btw.

I just know that in the times when I've done loops on my bouncy bikes on not overly gnar-core trails, they've been hard work and not that much fun.

I've recently bought a bottlerocket as my only bike though.

You will never break it or even feel it flex. Ever.

Well, out of the two Bottlerockets and a Syren that have come through the workshop this year, I have found cracks in all of them. Everything is breakable. All the bikes were ridden hard so this isn't a diss at Transition, but don't buy a freeride bike and not expect it to eventually fail.

walls,
where'd they crack and what bottlerocket? mk 1 2 or 3

I had a quick spin on a Bottlerocket on holliday, good but heavy, and the suspension was less forgiving than the Pitch. To be fair the guy who owned it posted an album on his facebook page when we got back showing him backfipping the thing over some pretty big doubles!

So if you're the kind of person who only has 1 bike but needs to do everything from XC to backflipping 20ft doubles then it's ideal. Otherwise look at the covert.

I've never ridden a blood, but a friend demo'd one back to back with a Five, he did a 20ft* drop on the 5 after about 30 minutes riding it! I only had a quick spin but the five did feel pretty similar to a Covert (ina very good way).

*This may be an exadgeration, it's a roll down a very step slope about 25ft from the lip to the transition at the bottom, I didn't see where he landed it but he pre'jumped it and dissapeared out of sight!

I've got a Pitch which might invalidate my oppinion though as I think it's ace.

Hi Jedi, both were previous gen but I don't know if they were 1 or 2. Both cracked around the head / top / down tube interfaces. Same with the Syren. I don't know if there is any engineered flex built into the new gen frames to relieve some stress on the welds, but either way, Transition provided new frames in all examples, so it certainly wouldn't stop me buying one.

Morning Will.

Good Afternoon Scruff.

rad news will 🙂

I can think of a frame that's very stiff and can handle a lot of abuse, has a cult following on STW, a lifetime bearing replacements under (excellent) warranty, comes with 150mm of travel and will handle the xc loops reasonably well.

There is a catch... It's a Marin. 🙂

I have a Blood but never ridden a pitch or a bottlerocket so views are probably not much use. If I remember rightly it is a bit lower than a bottlerocket, perhaps because it only has 125mm rear travel and that was one of the things that attracted me to it. I have really enjoyed it and will be keeping it for a while because nothing appeals to me more at the moment. Not a sensible or efficient bike but fun. I have ridden all day on it (once with DougBasqueMTB above) but given the option would rather ride all day on something else. Not a reflection on the Blood but that type of bike generally. They make up for the tedious efficiency shortcomings by being a hoot.

If you're happy with frame only take a look at the banshee wildcard. Bit cheaper than the other two but adjustable suspension. Long at the front, tight at the back. Perfect 🙂

the bottlerocket is 5-6 adjustable

Have never had a Pitch, but I had a Prophet MX before my Blood. Blood rides better, has better angles, is stiffer, has better suspension action and is generally more of a hoot to ride. And the Prophet was good, mind. And it's green 😉

It's my only bike, use for all day rides, DH, rides with the kids, enduro races, razzing round the woods, commuting.

Used to have an Spesh (Enduro Supercross) and got hacked off with having to change the (many) bushings/bearings every 6 months.

Hey Ed, and very quickly you were riding your Blood too 🙂

Hey Doug
I bet you say that to all the boys!