[Closed] True Bike Porn (IMO):Indy Fab,Moots,Eriksen,Seven,DeKerf,Strong, Potts etc

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If people feel good about having a '[s]special[/s]' bike then why not I suppose

This ^^^.

I have a garage full of bikes some mainstream some not.
Why should I not spend the same amount on a custom hardtail as i do on a more mainstream full suss.

None of them cost much anyway as they're all fakes. 😆

Anybody own a Moots? Always been interested as to how they ride

I really really want one of these...

but I might wait for the Surly Big Fat Ugly Ogre, a 29er with 4.7" fat tyres will be almost a 36er...

trying not to be defensive but when you start a thread requesting something in particular and then people start going off on tangents and dragging me with them then it gets to be a bit of a pain. yes this is STW and yes everyone is entitled to their opinion but i just wanted to see some nice bikes that i like and not have to try and justify them which is what i feel like i am having to do. maybe i have been wrong about some of my comments about custom built bikes but again everyone is piping in and saying they are ordinary bikes this and blah that. if you're not really that into custom built bikes then why are you reading this thread and making comments. Also no i'm not just into bikes with names on them. i just bought a Diamondback Axis frame from 1996 for £30 for gods sake so i think that rules out that argument plus ive had a few Marin hardtails as well which probably wouldnt look cool to the STW massive as well as you guys are all into your Orange 5s, Cotics, Lapierre and blah blah, blah blah

now can someone please tell me about these fake Indy Fabs so i dont end up with one someday? or are you just pulling my leg

thanks you

now can someone please tell me about these fake Indy Fabs

Email tollah and he'll give you the details.

if you're not really that into custom built bikes then why are you reading this thread and making comments

This thread isn't about custom bikes.

Yes please ^

This thread isn't about custom bikes.

i beg to differ as it is mostly about custom bikes as if you read the thread title, WHICH I STARTED! then you will see these are all custom built bike manufacturers.

well done the STW crew has sucessfully put me off my own thread. congrats you ****ts!

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Not custom. Skill compensating (or enhancing?) suspension that worked even Back In The Day. Porn? you decide.

i beg to differ as it is mostly about custom bikes as if you read the thread title

But you also said the were 'porn', which is what people are questioning. If you just wanted pics of branded bikes you could have just done a 'show me your x, y ,z' thread 😆

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not mine, but I used to have a black and neon pink dave lloyd hmmmmmmm

and a hand made Frank the Welder frame.....you don't get much better pedigree

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i beg to differ as it is mostly about custom bikes as if you read the thread title

No need to act like a big girl just because you got the title wrong.

haggis1978

trying not to be defensive but when you start a thread requesting something in particular and then people start going off on tangents and dragging me with them then it gets to be a bit of a pain.

It's a forum. That's the nature of it.

haggis1978
i just wanted to see some nice bikes that i like and not have to try and justify them which is what i feel like i am having to do.

No one is asking anyone to justify anything, in the grand scheme of things the "bike porn" that's been posted isn't [i]that[/i] expensive, and much of it isn't that nice. Your definition has just inspired debate as to what makes a bike "bike porn", not whether anyone should buy a custom or boutique brand bike. That's all. I posted when I had a look at the thread and it occurred to me there were some pretty bland, even ugly bikes in it, and that my off the shelf full susser would probably be as expensive, faster and more fun on anything other than a fire road. Which got me wondering, and posting.

Imo "bike porn" must surely be something like ( and I mean generally ) the Colnago CF8 or Specialized Mclaren Venge. Ie stupidly expensive, very rare and cutting edge performance. The aesthetics might be marmite but that's not the whole point, they represent bleeding edge performance, form following function and a high degree of unobtainability .

In mtb terms the closest thing would be what?

Did you get those wheels for free?

I just like the strength and stiffness of deep section rims/short spokes compared to wider rims. I'll freely admit they are a bit weighty though, especially with Phil Wood hubs. They work really well in deep mud though.

wow.. this went from being quite a nice fun thread to being a bag of ****..

shame on you taste dictators

I'm with Readers Wives.. and even Wayne Rooney when the urge takes me..

one mans Playboy is anothers Razzle and way too often Terry Richardson doesn't even get a look in..

shame on you

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If some of that lot are porn, is this the Littlewoods catalogue lingerie section?

well said yunki, too much tossery in force on narrow minded track world these days

yunki - Member
wow.. this went from being quite a nice fun thread to being a bag of ****.

I'm surprised it got as far as it did before it turned into a bag of ****.

[u]for a change something nice to say here:[/u]
love that '94 Dave Yates Swamp Donki!
Mighty proportions, wonder if it still rode well!?

Didn't know it before, so that was worth reading through this thread alone.
Despite the fatuous feuds between the interesting posts.

Thanks! 🙂

yunki

shame on you taste dictators

Who's being a taste dictator? Is it the guys implying a bike has to be a skinny tubed hartail made in a shed with some 90's throwback decals and a 4k price tag before it can be considered sexy?

Or the people questioning that?

now can someone please tell me about these fake Indy Fabs so i dont end up with one someday?

Sometimes they can look like this...

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nick3216 - Member
Ha ha...need to justify your choice? Steve Peat needs skill compensation then?
Ha, your inferiority complex is showing.

At least I have the skills and confidence to make that choice. I don't have to justify it to myself never mind Internet keyboard warriors. And indeed, sometimes I do ride wide bars and longer travel. My world is not black and white.

Steve Peat uses those things to enhance his already not inconsiderable skill. I remember him riding and beating people in a narrow barred Kona hardtail though. What a fatuous non-sequitur you raise.

POSTED 7 HOURS AGO # REPORT-POST

Ha ha, bully for you for having the "skills and confidence" to make that choice 🙄 I didi too with my custom steelHT. My only point was that you were slagging off those with FS, wide bars, etc, now you've backed down to say you love riding yours., but you're still superior because you have the "skill and confidence" to choose/buy something else 😛

Anyway...a Turner Burner "back in the day"?...WTF it came out in 1994, are you some kind of NOO8 ❓

blah blah blah ing a taste dictator? Is it the guys implying a bike has to be a skinny tubed hartail made in a shed with some 90's throwblah blah bla

I love you unconditionally

yunki

I realised I was being a dick and couldn't construct a decent retort so I thought I'd try and be facetious instead.

Fair enough.

As the any definition of biek porn, Shirley it can be nothing other than individual?

I mean one man's Asianbabes is another man's GILF weekly?

rwc03 - Member
Anybody own a Moots? Always been interested as to how they ride

I owned a Rigormootis many moons ago but found the geometry to be a bit old fashioned.

They have short effective top tube's as standard, for example the 16" which has a 17.27" seat tube only has a 22" effective top tube.

You can get custom geometry, but that is even more £££'s over the standard price.

I think a standard geometry Rigormootis is around £2700.

muddyfunster - Member
blah blah blah.. stodgily completely missing the point.. blah blah blaaaaaah
Fair enough.

I could construct plenty of retorts Sonny Jim.. but to do so would be the intellectual equivalent of kicking a dog turd down the street..

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Thanks Sofaking but I've stopped doing fake IF's now and only deal in fake DeKerfs commonly known as OnOnes 🙂

Imo "bike porn" must surely be something like ( and I mean generally ) the Colnago CF8 or Specialized Mclaren Venge. Ie stupidly expensive, very rare and cutting edge performance. The aesthetics might be marmite but that's not the whole point, they represent bleeding edge performance, form following function and a high degree of unobtainability .

+1

Nothing here is at the cutting edge IMO. If you wanted photos of custom bikes and nothing else why not Google the brands in your post? How dare people come and ruin 'your' thread 🙄

Mighty proportions, wonder if it still rode well!?

Only on early 90's style head-down arse-up friendly XC style race courses. There's too much weight over the front end with that Dave Yates stem. A shorter (80mm) Bontrager quill stem has made it a bit more comfortable. Fat belly gets in the way these days too. The brakes were better than the available options at the time, but TBH even V-brakes outperform them.

you're still superior because you have the "skill and confidence" to choose/buy something else

Have you visited a trail centre lately? Some of them need all the help they can get.

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Does this one of mine count?

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Anybody own a Moots? Always been interested as to how they ride

For me, Moots YBBeautiful riding 😀

 

As the any definition of biek porn, Shirley it can be nothing other than individual?
I mean one man's Asianbabes is another man's GILF weekly?

so what Al said!!!

There's no accounting for taste, is there? Surely shouldn't!
We could have enjoyed each others interpretation of what bike porn is, without starting to argue about it.
Then again we obviously couldn't. 😐

Sometimes I think it's all about therapy.
Yes, the internet forum culture is one big therapy of being allowed to argue for the arguments sake, being irrational, being provocative, even pretty dastardly 😯 without civilisation and other spoil sports being too much in the way... for once! What an insight! I've got to write a book about it!

Hope it works! The therapy, I mean. For a better tomorrow! 😀

or do what I do scroll through and just look at the pics and ignore all the silliness.

or do what I do scroll through and just look at the pics and ignore all the silliness.

I've discovered that googling bicycle porn is quite enlightening and definitely NSFW

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that Raleigh image counts as silliness. the bicycle equivalent of skanky

^ Nice Moots!

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I've discovered that googling bicycle porn is quite enlightening and definitely NSFW

what? 😯 that's what I'd call selective perception then!

have a look here [url= http://www.mountainbike-magazin.de/sixcms/detail.php?id=451984 ]:-)[/url] as a mild example

This thread now reads like the RBS pay thread. Disappointed as I had hoped to see some nice bikes. Live and let live. Post up whatever you think is bike porn!

Was trying to come up with a classic/modern car analogy,
classic looks, expensive, [i]feel[/i] nice to ride
vs
cheap, more comfy, efficient, better technology

but there's so many holes I can pick in it I shan't bother.

Some nice looking old bikes here (and some complete mingers too)

and another thing, I don't get the towel rail, is it just for show (in which case, OK fair enough) or is there some reasoning behind it - can't see what considering most bike manage with just a top and a down tube, but would like to hear it.

haggis1978 - Member

This thread isn't about custom bikes.

i beg to differ as it is mostly about custom bikes as if you read the thread title, WHICH I STARTED! then you will see these are all custom built bike manufacturers.

i apologise for including my merlin, then, as i had not appreciated the custom element was a requirement.

Post up whatever you think is bike porn!

No, that's not allowed! Custom bikes only.

So is Fat Bike Porn like Big Jugs Monthly then?

@SofaKing

Is that Westbury in your pics on the first page?

I thought it was worthy flatboy.

thank you, sir. 🙂

hahaha, wow. so you know, i really was apologising. 😆

anyway, i don't want to take away from one of the best posts i've ever seen. 😀

I'd deffo like to see some Potts on here

haggis.

Just bear in mind that some of the people on this thread just want to look at pictures of bikes you see leaning agains a wall at a trail centre cafe. 🙂

They have no interest in anything that's not advertised in MBR/MBUK.

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickw3216/48330174/ ]Look at that fillet brazing[/url] Deep chain stays and no bridge either.

Choice of paint colour and pattern (or not) is also a personal thing on these sorts of bikes.

I don't get the twin top tube thing myself and I don't expect people to understand my liking of curvy top tubes either.

So I might not buy one, but I can still appreciate the craft that goes into a bike with a "towel rail", and the owners pride.

christ, there are some really minging bikes on this thread, pretty poor showing for a BILF thread.

so show us something nice then klunk

Haha! Post of the day haggis. Chapeau.

I apologise if my comments have upset you, as they clearly have. I have no issue whatsoever with the bikes posted within (a number are very nice), my greatest 'grievance' (for want of a better word) is with your absurd policing of the content.

What exactly have I done that makes me 'jumped up'? - I expressed my opinion in my early posts, which clearly offends, though to be honest you were on the back foot and unnecessarily defensive from the off, as if you expected to counter some resistance (which has not come from me).

If you are going to be so upset when people don't adhere to your rules may I suggest you register CustomBikePhotosAndNaziGovernedForum.com - probably more up your street!

so show us something nice then klunk

i don't think i'm allowed, my porn preferences are too run of the mill for the thread police.

@SofaKing

Is that Westbury in your pics on the first page?

This has been interesting.

haggis, £2300 for the ti implant frame. £1700 on xt group, decent forks etc easily do-able, I'd have thought. The 853 Team SST is £1100. Add a bit for custom tweaks and you've still got loads of headroom for a sub £4K build.

CustomBikePhotosAndNaziGovernedForum.com -

I call Godwin's Law!

Pah, 4k won't even get you a 2nd tier Epic any more - let alone an S-Works!

I call Godwin's Law!

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Right, thank you for the comment of the day remarks. i am a wee bit calmer now 😉 i am not policing the content just wanting to see some nice bikes as suggested in the thread title. more than you njee20 have popped in and said they're ordinary or not bike porn and if you dont like then why are you continuing to write in this thread. its like you are goading me same as the plonker a few comments up who says "these bikes are all minging" so i repeat "jog on!"

Why am I still here? Because there are some interesting bikes in here (although there's hardly any photos on this page now it's descended into bedlam), and like you I'm not particularly interested in Orange 5s/Cotics/On Ones etc - I appreciate nice bikes, mine doesn't really 'fit' with the STW formula.

What I don't get, and I did say as much, is why people swoon over them so much. They're nice bikes, but all they have over mass produced bikes is exclusivity, ie it's brand snobbery. That's fine, just don't pretend it's owt else!

its like you are goading me same as the plonker a few comments up who says "these bikes are all minging" so i repeat "jog on!"

LOL, it would be goading if i actually said that, miss quoted on the same page, outstanding.

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Here's my Dekerf:

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Not sure how this fits with anyone's idea of bike porn. It's very ordinary to look at, and not that expensive: it's the cheaper Generation, 631, not 853. I bought it second hand, too. (equivalent of finding it in a hegderow and peeling apart the pages?)

And actually, I'm emotionally attached to it more than its ride qualities would justify - there are plenty of better looking bikes out there and plenty more that are nicer to ride, but I love it anyway and I don't want to get rid.

So much more like a long term partner than porn.

That Cyfac is the best yet, needs Di2, but yes.

My old DeKerf. Truly loved this bike. The frame is hanging in the garage and i should get round to getting disc tabs welded on.

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Yep, I'll fess up to brand snobbery, not wanting another "me too" bike.

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In the end I chose a Hunter cos I'd already met Rick, and wanted to give my money to someone I knew rather than a corporation. That and he could do wishbone stays and Black Cat dropouts instead of an EBB or the fugly Paragon sliders.

And this quality of brazing...

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Edited to add: love that DeKerf above

that DeKerf Solitaire is very nice

I like my dropouts

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brakes - Member

so, I've always wanted an Indy Fab Deluxe, but doubt I'll ever buy one.
where do you get the fakes?

I should have one of my fake Indy Fab's up for sale soon.
Keep an eye on the for sale forum over the next week or so.

is it ti or steel ?

It's steel.

The guy that builds them hasn't been able to master faking Ti yet.

Ok so I am curious.... rarely get involved in these threads that turn into a bickering match although 'Hock' makes an interesting point re forum mentality etc

I am one of those main stream guys, I run a Zesty, bought before the hype, but I make it work for me rather than ride it as standard and I have an Evil Sov that I put together for winter riding.

What I have discovered is that I love riding the Sov, in the saddle it is ok but once out of it taking on the trails it is fantastic fun..... this has lead me into thinking about a bike that'll pedal better but be as much fun when attacking the trail.

I am now thinking that maybe a custom geometry HT would be good, possibly in Ti....

My thoughts on the bikes posted... most look pretty uninspiring with the odd exception but the thing that counts is the ride.... it is all about the ride and I am a fan of understatement so whilst they look pretty uninspiring I hope that they ride as thier owners had wished them to when designing/ordering them.

I won't post any pics of my main steamers... mostly as I have no idea how to attach an image.

Riding = Smiling

Most peoples custom rides take elements of 'standard' bikes they really like and recreate them in a posher material with nicer fixtures and fittings.

If you like your hardtail and know what to do to make it ride how you want in that one area without stuffing the rest of it up (or the builder you choose can tell you) then gettign a custom frame made woudl make sense.

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