[Closed] Trouties New Light is on the way ( Update to all interested folks who emailed me

Paul has mailed me to say the mount can be easily modded to give the adjustment needed to take in the sweep of the bars the head mounts to the bracket with 2 bolts so the front hole can be a slot to give the swing .

Cheers Huxley nice beams he has times 6 should be a pretty nice wall of light cant wait for the buggers to arrive now

(Minor and discreet highjack)

Gruenermoench, whats that bar? Loving it.

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Yeah tell me about it chris you're not the only one!!!

There's only so much 'p7' i can take, folks on br love it but im gradually swaying them over to the xp-g, why do you think i suggested the c1 for a helmet mount, nice p60 hosts to get them hooked. 😉

Update on the housings cnc Paul has been beavering away making my original design even betterer i had it with a flat bottom but he suggested a few fins to aid cooling and also some tweaks which I was thinking about at work and lo and behold the bugger had already implemented them and made some for approval so here they are
this is the Troutelight Engineers cut .

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I think Paul has caught the bug, he might even be biking before we know it 😆

It can't possibly get any better can it?

Im starting to drool

Im off to get a tissue 😉

looks even better with the new base.can,t wait for mine now.
troutie is this the one we will be getting.

Have you fixed the on/off switch locknut issue ? If not, why not ? 😉

Its fair to say I am as giddy as a ship

CustardCream - Member

(Minor and discreet highjack)

Gruenermoench, whats that bar? Loving it.

(sorry - normal thread resumed...)

It's a Titanium Luv Handle from Groovycycleworks over in the states. The bar also comes in steel and in whatever colour or design you want. Can really recommend it for people that like long tours and who have had comfort issues with conventional bars and who want something a bit different.

You can read more about them here:

www.groovycycleworks.com

www.groovycycleworks.blogspot.com

Looking good Trout. Can't wait to get fettling!

I guess the bottom finning will tie people to your mount, rather than using a single bolt Electron style one. If you do go this route I'm assuming you'd lose the thickened area on the bottom 'lid' for drilling and tapping a mount: will gain some extra space inside.

D

i take it troutie will be donating to singletrack for all the advertising on the forum???????

if you care to read through this thread you will see troutie and singletrack are in discussions with this and it is all in hand

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gohan - Member

i take it troutie will be donating to singletrack for all the advertising on the forum???????
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i take it troutie will be donating to singletrack for all the advertising on the forum??????

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gohan - i take it troutie will be donating to singletrack for all the advertising on the forum???????

Gruenermoench
love it,classic and so true.
they turn up everywere.

Gohan scores own goal

Allthe pies
yep no nut issues

Deew yes we thought in would benifit from a little weight loss and extra fins but does tie it to the mount yes the boss inside has gone

Gohan to save you reading the thread a beer fund donation was made for the add in the classifieds
and also we agreed for me to buy a banner add and stw admin agreed to me putting it on hold for a couple of weeks or so as I did not want any more publicity until this batch is on the trails .

Typing this with bloodshot eyes after getting back from D2D What a night .

Loaned a new light to a guy called Gavin who was teamed up with the DIY ledgend
Robdeanhove you may remember the mega thread a few years ago that started me and a few others light building .

What a nail biting race and with the last laps for the pair to go they were 4th placed and after 2 stonking laps they had captured 3rd so on a test ride for the new light it got on the podium
Might have got higher but for a bent chain problem for Rob on the first lap that lost him about 10 mins

Thanks Gavin and Rob Real nice to meet you both and thanks for giving the light a good thrashing

I was like an expectant dad wondering if it would perform ok

I'd like to add a report on 'real world' testing of Trout's lights this weekend.

Some of you who have been following this thread will recall that Trout was asking for someone who was riding D2D this weekend to test his lights, so I got in touch, as I'm interested in trying out new things, and have dabbled in the past with making my my own home brew lights.

After a bit of bouncing around of ideas, Trout eventually decided to drive down to Thetford, and meet me and my riding buddy, Robdeanhove, of the infamous homebrew LED light fame.

Now, on to the lights themselves!

Trout brought me a daddy Trout and a baby Trout. The daddy mounted very easily on my bars, directly over the stem with the battery being strapped under the stem with a single velcro strap. The baby Trout mounted with a single velcro strap to the top of the helmet. My riding/racing preference is to ride without a pack, so we ended up strapping a battery onto the back of the helmet.

Playing around with the light, I was really impressed with the switches, and how well constructed the lights felt. I've raced with plastic pipe LED-lights, so don't demand aesthetics over function, but these were really cool. I liked the little 'Trout' logo, proposed on here, and also the luminous paint used behind the LED's, so that once you turn them off, the lights glow a cool green. Handy if you drop them, or they get ripped off in a bad crash - but, I just liked how they made people notice you were riding something new and a little different.

During the race, I spent most of the time with the Daddy on 'full', with the Baby on 'low'. This was more than enough light for the tight, twisty trees in Thetford. Switching between 'full' and 'low' is really easy with a nice, positive click on the push switch. The switch has no illumination, but I found it easy enough to find, even in a hurry as I suddenly entered a section of singletrack. With both lights on full, the light levels were astonishing, with a really good coverage of light up to about 50-60 metres out.

I found battery life to be pretty good with the 'standard' batteries (although I have to confess I can't remember their rating) I ran the Daddy on two batteries for 7 laps, and although I noticed a small decrease in its intensity after a couple of laps, the light produced was still well above what I was used to.

The Baby, mounted on my helmet could do with a lighter battery, if you are going to mount it on the helmet in its entirety, otherwise you could easily carry the battery in your pack. After 3 laps, I swapped to my Joystick Maxx, as we didn't have another battery small enough to mount on my helmet. This was instantly noticeable for its much reduced power, in fact, I hardly noticed that it was on, or really felt I needed it with the Daddy doing its business on the bars. The only exception to this was really tight stuff, when being able to 'look' around the corner was necessary. I would say that with a little work on the ergonomics of the battery, the Baby light would be hard to beat for the money.

Trout pointed out that these lights were running on the 'old' LEDs. The new ones he is waiting for, will be 35% brighter and draw less battery power!! Wow!

I would like to pass a huge thanks to Trout and wish him all the best for these lights. In a small way of thanks, we came 3rd in the Male Pairs, and hopefully I provided a useful test of these lights in a 'real world' setting.

Good to meet you there trout, even if it was only for a few mins. the baby Trout was definatly a really cool little bit of kit.

Can't wait for mine now,good things come to those who wait. I loved my old Rush HIDs. Trout I think I have ordered the full Trout?

just had a delivery from Paul ready to go to the anodizers

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Mmmm, lovely!!! 🙂 Just to think that one of those puppies will be riding around with me soon! Can't wait!! On that note Trout, when do you think we can expect to see them roughly?

Cheers,

James.

Ooo, that looks impressive! You must be getting really excited now, Trout.

Jammy
Leds dispatched from OZ today
Drivers shipping from USA around 8th oct

That is all I know at the moment tis a waiting game now

All those will be at the anodizers tommorrow black and grey will be done first then other colours may have to wait for them to run that colour .

Is the "shipping" coming over by ship or plane?

If it the colour holds mine up I'll have mine in grey along with the the day glow paint as well please.

Likewise bud, but im fairly patient, so long as it's on the bike before the hour goes forward im cool, plus im sure you'll want to play with the optics first anyway.

I have a good friend who will probably want a night ride with me, she's gonna have to wait until i get my mitts on the troutelight seeing she runs a lupine betty afterall. 😆

ive ordered gold (home build) but am not really bothered so if it makes it easier I could go for another colour?

Scott

all good things come to he who waits 😉

Trout, are the logos going under the anodisation (ie already engraved on the ones above) OR are the anodized lights going back to the CNC place so that the logos are exposed Alu?
I know you said the former, but the only pics have been with post anodised etching.

Hux
I quarantee you will have your light before the clocks go forward
you may not need it as much then though 😆

though I fear you will miss the hour going back this month .

John Climber
EMS which is australian express mail service .

CHB logo after adodising shows up better.

I dont think colours will effect lead times

I quarantee you will have your light before the clocks go forward
you may not need it as much then though

though I fear you will miss the hour going back this month .

Oh bugger

I dont think colours will effect lead times

Good news, are you OK with my screw hole and bolt/screw thread?

Oh haha i see what i did then, oh well im sure it'll be worth the wait, expect me to post more often when i start getting twitchy. 😆

I guess the p7 will have to come out and play for the time being ho hum.

Chris

Have dropped a "deep sea diver" into the STW coffers for the thread support..........................loooooooooooooking good

So Trout have you named these the "LUMEN LIBERATOR" from your web site?

The LL has been an idea I had a long while ago when testing optics on an led which was just fixed to a block of aluminium and I saw that a load of light came out sideways too
now this light is lost inside the case just bouncing around

the optics at best are 90 % effiecient but more likley 80% so I thought by opening up the bottom these caged lumens could get out and shine around the front wheel

hense the Liberated lumens 😀 and the name stuck

You cant beat liberation. ❗

I`ve been on about your light tonight on our regular Tues. night ride....there were some raised eyebrows when i mentioned the 2000+ lumens 😛

There were 23 out tonight, and when i show them how good it is, then there might just be more required!!!!

Here is a little taster nicked from mtbr
a triple XPE light and a triple XPG R5 same optics

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Hey, Stoney, how you doing after my helping you the other day with your light ?.

Pass on the details, etc ?.

Let us know what you think of it, when you receive your light.

L.

how much are the cheapest lights?

So what's the finished lunem power of the 5 led sets then Trout?

Ta

Taka
Might be able to fit you up with a mark one Trout light battery and charger in a couple of weeks .

John
according to those who have worked it out approx 2200 lums is the on paper output from 6 XPGs R5

well they are now in the UK

Date Time Location Service Area Check Point Details
Oct 7, 2009 5:00pm UNITED KINGDOM - COVENTRY PF Received and awaiting clearance for delivery.
Oct 5, 2009 11:40pm AUSTRALIA - MELBOURNE Processed - enroute to final destination.

Oct 5, 2009 10:26pm AUSTRALIA - MELBOURNE Received and ready for processing.

Oct 5, 2009 4:45pm NUNAWADING BC Item lodged

Ok, so I'll be over to yours tomorrow afternoon to collect them then? 😉

Actually as it is at home at the moment I might need you to send them out to me instead

Woot!!!!

2200? As I understand it there is an efficiency to factor in (heat production etc) on that figure. Is this correct, or is it 2200 actual output?

2000 - 2200 who cares they are still much better than what I've got

I quite agree, just askin'

cheers how much roughly are they?for pocketmoney duiteys 😉

tom

I want one!

Bonesetter

The 2200 lumens is the max rating as quoted by Cree .

just like the 900 lumens quoted for the DX bastid

so yes there will be losses and the output will probably be 80% of the max .

it is just a number and a missleading one at that .
but seeing as all the makers quote the theoretic max I will also .

Tom Mail me in about a week and I will know what I have around

2200? As I understand it there is an efficiency to factor in (heat production etc) on that figure. Is this correct, or is it 2200 actual output?

Theoretical but then don't most manufacturers quote that figure? There's loss in the driver but not sure if that's reflected in the max output from the driver being reduced (ie 970ma not 1000ma which means the light output being reduced) or having to put more power in to the driver to get 1000ma out. And the optics won't be 100% efficient so there's a loss. But if you lose 10% that'll leave 1980 lumens. Pah, hardly worth it now is it 😉

EDIT : Doh, beaten by the man .....

will do cheers

tom

Thanks Troutie.

I'm a facts man you see, so when I'm being asked 'How many L's it that nuclear reactor putting out?!" I can answer for sure.

Looking forward to to the light. Great work.

Cheers Dave

the driver will send the full 1000ma to the leds the optics are 90 % so lose the 10 % .

but then some of that loss comes out the bottom of the light
Liberated lumens 😆

Trout, when can we expect deliveries to those who aren't clever enough to put the together from a kit? 😳

hi trout would you be able to fix me up with same as taka please? gazman

[i][b]Liberated lumens[/b][/i]

Sounds like a tag line for the Trout brand. 😀

Mulletus Maximus - Member
Trout, when can we expect deliveries to those who aren't clever enough to put the together from a kit?

Ditto 😳

Gazman will see what I can do but first got to keep the Liberator folks happy .

JC & MM as soon as I possibly can
the leds are still showing as in coventry awaiting clearance for delivery what ever that means

and damn drivers have not left USA yet 👿

some good news and some not so good

collected the stuff from anodizing

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the gunmetal grey are now silver grey and a bit lighter than expected .

If you really hate the silver grey then there are a few black ones available to swop to

and the Titanium one could be dodgy .too

Pretty 8)

Hi Trout, any chance of posting up a better close up pic of the lighter gunmetal housing? Maybe side by side with the original gunmetal that you had which was quite dark? Maybe an idea to do a similar thing with the titanium one too, whoever has that one? Just an idea, as I can't really tell very well from that pic.

P.s. the purple one looks pretty funky!! 🙂

Cheers, James.

The red will match my bike perfectly. 😛
Getting excited now.

OK

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also a MK1 version in gunmetal grey

Thanks for that! So I guess far left is the new lighter gunmetal, middle is the titanium, and far right is the older darker gunmetal we saw before?

Dam, the red looks good and I ordered gold 😕

Golds good though 😆

nope

far left is supposed to be titanium middle is gunmetal and right the sample but I did not have it with me when I took them in and he must have thought the MK1 colour

Stands back and awaits the flak

Oh, I see! Yeah that is quite different! I'd still rather have the gunmetal than the black one though, thanks. Oooh I can't wait to get it now!! 😀

P.s I'd still rather the dark gunmetal, but hey ho!

Im leaning towards the titanium atm, closest to the original gunmetal imo, can you put us down for that trout?

Im leaning towards the titanium atm, closest to the original gunmetal imo, can you put us down for that trout

hux You chose Blue

hey they look sweet, can't wait Chris

Trout.

Nice work there. Especially the black light with the shiney silver thing on the back. Is that a special customer order ?.

I've had something like that on my light.

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Looking good

🙂

L.

I don't care what colour my Ti one is, just get me it to me yesterday 😉

i'd like to ask why are you bothered what colour it is? It'll be pitch black* when you are using it. 🙄

* except for the daylight beam infront of you.

wors - Member
i'd like to ask why are you bothered what colour it is? It'll be pitch black* when you are using it.

* except for the daylight beam infront of you.

Because Trout was foolish enough to give us a choice 😆

is that my mk1 there troutie?

hux You chose Blue

Did i oh right because the email i have here said gunmetal, but if it makes life easier for you then i don't mind blue at all. 🙂

Just don't give me silver or i'll drive up there and kill ye. 😉 😆

Ooooooh i see where the confusion was, you mentioned colour i thought you were on about the text in your email, lmao and you were on about the light, oh dear, just checked back through and i see what happened now.

Ok no biggie blue it is.

Yeah there is a colour in these mails it's blue seeing as you wondered.

Kind of glad in a way, the new gunmetal is too light for my tastes so in a way that slip up kinda paid off.

Should be great seeing how they work, from what i've read it'll be like an xr-e with just as much throw but much better spill and colour rendition and run slightly cooler.

You must be dying to test them out, id be climbing the walls around about now. 😆

anodizing - always a weakness for us mtb'ers.............

They are looking smart ❗

yep foolish Trout next lot one colour only Pink 😉

Yep FatMH your soon to be upgraded MK1

Hux Sorry I am colour blind I will have the blue you can have my off black one
but killing me may upset a few STW forumers but I am cool with that.

yep wall climbing are us (tm)

2 days from Oz to coventry latest status

Your item was processed at the international processing centre UNITED KINGDOM - COVENTRY PF at 14:17 on 09 Oct 2009, and has been transferred for delivery processing.

what the chance of tomorrow delivery then .