Duckers I have had a few enquiries from runners and one close to me so am going to make a mount for the baby trout to fit the hope head strap as a test for him to try out in some night endurance events .
CC the piccy thread is before the meltdown but is was a laugh at the time
It is not about hard cash why I do it it is just a fun hobby and the developing it to a killer light gives me a buzz and the input from on here has been astronomical so it is really a STW light in its birth.
Thanks solo I had a great afternoon went to Pauls works and watched one being done on the cnc and for me it was a blast ( thanks Paul )
Cant believe such a powerfull machine can be so delicate
"[i]It is not about hard cash why I do it it is just a fun hobby[/i]"
You're crazy 😀 , your output is prodigious, you've 3 lights on the go, as far as I can tell.
Just where do you sleep, is it next to the lathe, the mill, or the computer ??.
Yeah, the STW crowd can be awesome.
Keep it up 😉
CC.
Interested to know how the noggin mount for running goes Trout - post back on that one.
after first reading this thread i thought it was just about a light but i guess i was wrong.it seems to be the greatest light in the universe.
loved by all. so last week i finaly gave in a placed my order.can,t wait for it.small tech is ace.
Captain Yep I am crazy what I meant to say was it is not cash that drives these projects I am a compulsive tinkerer and these lights satisfies the urge to make things slept last night on the sofa next to the dog due to me snoring and getting kicked out of bed Paddy didnt mind the snoring 😳
took this little vid yesterday before the camera had a hissy fit with dirty heads as I wanted to try and video one being machined
ignore the voice please
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Trout,
Glad things are progressing well.
Like a few others have said on here, I'd also be interested in a self-contained light.
Have you ever thought about building a self-contained set of lights for road use?
AB
when the Prototype returns from its trip to colorado and I have got on top of the lights ordered then I will be revisiting that light Hopefully with the help of Paul the cnc man and the stw massive
In the mean time I want to run these connectors by you all
panel connector for in the light
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for on the battery cable
and its mate on the charger
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Hi Trout. Have you had a look at the Hirschmann Connectors range. We use them in a motorsport application involving water. They are very easy to use and have a twist lock. We use them as an alternative to Lemos and they are cheap aswell.
[url= http://www.hacconnectors.com/product01.html ]Hirschmann[/url]
trout, sorry mate those conectors are gopping!
I mean the battery ones. Don't care what does inside the light provided it is reliable
Much prefer the hope style standard jackplug type, preferably in a soft plastic. Havn't looked at neils suggestion...goes off to google
[as always feel free to ignore comments, no umbridge will be taken!]
Use some twist lock connectors. The above ones ming 🙂
OK pics to be deleted Bloody rubbish I only put them in to test you all Pah . 😳
🙂 Hirschmanns look good and right angled connectors too if I get an enigma machine and decipher the order codes 🙁
allthePies any linky thinks to have a look at
Trout, does this mean you have access to the new super-duper LED's then?
jt 😉
JT
not yet Though I did try to get a pre production sample with out success . I guess my small operation did not merit samples
I have a few on order and cant wait to get them .
Ahh, no worries! I can't afford to buy anything other than some LED's to upgrade my current LED efforts, but would be very happy (prefer) to put any business your way as and when you get them in.... Maybe a bit of alloy for a backplate if you have some knocking around? (for use within an old cateye stadium)
Will drop you an email if thats OK?
jt 😉
JT yep no probs
Been busy today built up a LL with the last of my XPEs and took lots of pics to do a how to build it thingy some time soon .
also went walkabout with the hound so used the oportunity to get some sample beam shots so I will be able to compare the old leds to the new
ones
I will try a few combinations to see which you all prefer but it will take a few days
first up is the side on shot requested .
I am as far away from the camera as I could get in 9 seconds with a dog trying to trip me up
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a similar shot from behind
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now a shot normal on high with 6 narrow optics
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and a shot with 4 narrow and 2 eliptical
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when I take pouch out tomorrow i will do
2 narrow 2 med and 2 eliptical .which is my preference for on the bars
Remember these are not the XPG leds
Oh and the tree at the back is well over 100 metres away will measure tomorrow
looking good troutie.your just teasing us all now arn,t you.
Yes guily as charged 😳 .
but it is a light built with the input from on here for the folks on here so only fair to keep you all updated on progress as a fair few have a vested interest .
some pics of the build up also here [url] http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa46/amticoman/LIBERATOR%20HOW%20TOO/ [/url]
I wonder how many "strange man with lights" calls the police around Trout's area get?
I am just waiting for the police copter to come round then I can shine back at him .
The daft dog loves it chasing rabbits in the dark will have to make him a head light 😆
My god how much brighter will the XPG leds be?
Is that the same spec as the one i have on test?
Hi Chris
The build looks superb and for the light.................wow
Can't wait for the xpg's.
Got an email from smudge the battery pack will be with me this week.
Very very impressed, hats off
As John said, just how much brighter will the XPG's be? as that looks like almost too much light.
Hi Trout
Are you going to provide any support (ie case drillings) for the low battery Stat LED ?
Thanks
Bazzer
JC the XPGs are 37 % ( maths is not my strong point ) better than XPEs
But as has been commented on it is not how big it is it is how it is used 😀
wait for the 2+2+2 optic beam shot tonight it is Nice .
and if anyone who has ordered one wants me to detune it so max output is lower mail me .
Swift Yes you have one of only 2 working troutlight LL but I cannot remember the optic config .
Bazzer I will drill holes whereever you want just say how big and where .
I have fitted a statLED to my 'old' v1 Troutlight very easy to fit: a 4mm hole IIRC and a bit of silicone sealed it fine. Main issue is having enough room inside the housing but looking at Trouts pics there should easy be room if you keep the wiring neat.
Dave
Good greif Trout... You could easily drive a car with those....
I want ....I want.... i want........
ok as promised the 2+2+2 beam shot
I will need to redo this as I aimed it to much to the ground but here it is anyways
and I was stood near the wrong bush also bums
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and for a laff from the other direction
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New post needed.
What sunglasses for Trouts lights?
you're dog must love walking with you at night 😆
He does love it but still cant catch the wabbits though
Why those pesky wabbits!
I think i`ve just burnt my retinas! 8)
LoL, so the final model is going to be around 35->40% brighter than those beam shots. FFS you should be marketing these to MXers and lampers not mountain bikers.
Also as others have said, if you could make them waterproof as well, you would sell shedloads to divers.
If you are not careful you could end up with a full time job making these.
Thanks to all who have sent ideas and helped in creating this little light , and also to STW towers for being understanding and helpfull .
after a totally unexpected response on here my inbox was filling up much faster than I could respond thankfully it has slowed to a trickle now .
All 50 of the housings being made are now half owned bye one of you on here you know who you are and thanks .
if by any chance anyone else wantc or needs :wink:one I am sorry but you will need to be patient and wait for the next run to be made .
which will be late nov if I am lucky .
it is now a waiting game for stuff to arrive from around the world and assemble them
and a mention to the diy folks who are having kits it is great and takes the build pressure off me Ta
Hi Trout
I sent the deposit last week, via paypal. Am I one of the lucky 50 🙂
Bazzer
Edited to add I am up for a kit
Yes Bazzer you and all who have sent deposits are the lucky / unlucky lot doomed to ride alone at the front 😆
Cheers Trout
I get enough grief at the moment if I try and ride behind my wife, with my trailtech hid light 🙂 She is not going to like this 🙂
Bazzer
Troutie
Where do you get your thermal adhesive from. In the past I've used artic silver but notice you mentioned artic aluminium, you can I believe get a double sided tape also?
What else will we need if we getting a self build kit.
Scott
Hey up Bazzer you will need to get the wife one too .
Scott
I get it from Happys link ( thanks Happysv )
arctic silver is slightly conductive and not suitable for glueing the driver to its heatsink so I use the other for leds and driver
hi trout
Is the 5g of gunge from that ebay shop enough to build one light ?
Bazzer
Bazzer the tubes of gunge is enough to do 10 maybe more lights
if any of you kit builders live close you could share a pack
My mate bought one of their lights yesterday so looked on this website and thought these buttons look good with inbuilt LED
http://www.four4th.co.uk/four4th_control_button.shtml
The light is really nice, tiny CNC'd case ideal for a helmet light.
Bazzer
I like the 'hood' idea on that four4th light. I often blind myself on out of the saddle efforts on climbs when I look past the lights!
Hi.
Have emailed you some info re: connectors.
PT
Its a nice light, I was amazed at how small it is I was expecting it to be MR11 size from the picture buts its tiny. Looks really nicely machined and built.
But not as bright as my Troutlight is going to be 🙂
Bazzer
I contacted the 4th people 4 weeks ago and was promsed a reply, alas it never came.
However the battery technology is questionable, the guy I spoke to told be the pouch used for the "helmet" design must go inside your back pack as the battery will not take knocks and bangs if placed on a stem.
It looks a good light but my involvement with them has not been good.
It is a start up company I guess but in my view that is when you have to be at your best.
I will not be buying from them.
The Troutlight is soon to take the UAE by storm, so anticipate lots more orders for the 2nd run as soon as everyone sees them out here 😀
When looking into batteries late last year when looking to upgrade some lights, I investigated li-po cells. Seemed great, good value, light-weight, powerful, but then I read a bit into the dangers 😕
A quick bit of googling, and [url= http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209187 ]this[/url] thread on an RC modelling forum showed just how dangerous they could be, Youtube has some nice li-po batteries catching fire too 😯
Personally, the last thing I want when crashing my bike, is for large amounts of poisonous gas to fire out of my battery pack, prior to it catching fire 😳
The Ay-up lights use li-po batteries, but inside nice little hard plastic cases, but the soft packs I wouldn't touch with a barge-pole.
Hence why I decided to make some 18650 holders instead.
Interesting that the [url= http://www.four4th.co.uk/four4th_lipo_batteries.shtml ]Fourth4[/url] site says how great the Li-po cells are, but doesn't mention anything about the potential risks 👿
Seem to have gone a bit off topic and ranty, sorry!
Cheers, Rich
Was out over QE last night with Del from Fourth4 and a couple of mates, all using his lights for headmounts and have been doing for a while now, apparently without issues. Bottle cased.
Tidy lamp and good beam and works well on bars but I don't like the idea of head mount with cables going into backpack, whatever the make of light, which is what I like about the joystick, even if it is comparatively underpowered.
Waiting for my Troutie for bar mounting
vd
It was Gary who rides with Phil and that lot, who had the light last night. In fact I think he picked it up from Del at QE last night.
I have ridden with them a couple of times, too.
I must say its a cracking bit of engineering, I really want to take it apart but I don't thing Gary will let me 🙂
Bazzer
I believe I may have been responsible for introducing that switch to the light making community. Or at least one very similar.
I suggested it to Trout a few years ago. I prefer the ones with the LED in the actuator, but I believe Trout uses these switches without the LED.
I've been using them for a few years now. They're a good switch, imo, but more expensive with the LED, obviously. They have a good cycle rating.
Agree about the Li-Poly batts also. I did look into them, but those in the know indicate that Li-Poly aren't that suitable. However, that doesn't seem to have stopped the Nuke-Proof light and I believe the LUU light using Li-Poly batteries. Suppose they've done testing to ensure no fires break out, etc.
Luminous.
Hi Luminous
Who supplies those switches ?
Cheers
Bazzer
Bazzer.
I believe they are available through RS now.
Ta
L.
Luminous...
Can you give any more details on the switches. I`ve mailed you as well.
Cheers.
Stoney.
Ok, will look.
Cheers
🙂
L.
Cheers mate, i ve received the info and im looking into it. 8)
Baby Trout now gets a helmet mount .
Thanks Paul
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ohhhhhh so close
Now you can burn peoples retinas when you turn to talk to them 8)
better throw me in the mix there brother
dunkotm
dunkotm@gmail.com
I think you ay be a busy boy over the next few months:)
Wow. That is such a neat set-up on the lid. Lovely. Once the 6led bar light is paid for that's going to be the next thing to save for. Christmas money will have a home to go to. 😀
trout, your going to be far more successful and well known in the biking world than danny macaskill....
Who ❗
😀 I just cant wait to get some of these out there It has gone crazy
You lot are all mad 😳
Wish I could ride @ 10% of Dannys ability
I appear to have arrived late - You still have some left?
Just have a few questions (sorry if you answered them already, did try to look through this whole thread, but got bored..)
Its 2000 lumens on max - what are the other settings? And what is the battery life for each setting?
How much does the whole thing weigh?
How much does it cost?
I couldn't see a battery pack or cable - is the battery stored inside it?
Does it come with a charger?
And is it fully weatherproof?
And do you have mounts for OS bars?
Looks awesome. Can you get different colours?
You need to read the posts backwards if you cant be arsed and all the answers are there in the last few pages.
307 posts with 99 voices. Boring?
Come on troutie, keep the thread going, anything to keep us all interested, Pictures are good or just keep telling us how good its going to be when when we get it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scott
Been keeping a low profile lately, trying to calm the panic attacks .
good news is 16 are self build kits so when the leds arrive I dont know wether to build one to see what it is like or just pack the kits and mail them out . then start building .
then to cap it all after the worst six months in my memory work wise ( self employed floor layer ) it has now gone crazy and fully booked till mid november.
Realman & Dunkotm if you are interested mail me we added on 10 more to the run . as in the count up I didnot have one
The kind bods at STW have let me put the add on hold for a couple of weeks as I didnot want the added publicity just yet
OK, Troutie
I underdstand what you saying, Mums the word from now on 😉
Scott
Not too quiet though Scott 🙂
On another tack here anyone interested in trialing the prototype around D2D looking for a good fast rider to give it a try out
im not doing d2d but if you ever need a slow rider to test the runtimes let me know lol 😉
by the way any plans for a 1/4 trout something a little 2 led jobbie for helmet use only around the 600 lumens would be nice 😉
What about something suitable for road riding???
Hell yes I have a head full of plans just need the dragons to give me a shed full of cash .
Got this mail yesterday
Hello Seller,
How you doing over there???Hope everything is fine alright..I am ok with your price and i will be making the payment by {Money Order}which i think it very safe and secure for both of us cos,i don,t want any confusion or any fraudulent activity to dwell in this transaction that is why i have been taking precautions since the last two month co"s i got burnt and don,t want to fall for the same thing again so please hope you understand my point,I should have come to see the item but am presently out of town but you can attach the pic,s of the item for me to see cos its very weird to but what you haven,t seen with your eyes okay...I will make arrangement for the pick-up after payment have been received by you.I don't mind offering you an extra $50 so you can keep it in my favor... If you're ok with me Reply with your Full Name,Address,State,Zip Code City where payment should be sent to including your cell phone #. Please take the posting off "mtbr" today and consider it sold to me.get back to you asap.. Expecting to hear from you soon.
Regards
Thank You.
Jennifer.
http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showproduct.php?product=39764
That definitely looks dodgy! Just mailed you about a possible 4LED light. Fingers crossed.
Stu.
She doesn't reside in a country beginning with N and ending with A does she? That does sound really iffy.
Can you sub out the floor laying and concentrate on the light building? 😉
Yep how stupid do these folks think we are .
Cheers stu ygm.
Here is a little touch that I may make as an option on the light
as a safety feature you have been out riding and stacked badly you went one way the bike the other all your lights have gone out in the dark forest .
but your Trouty is still glowing nicely so you can find your bike
painted inside the optic bit with glow paint . charges up the paint when your light is on and glows green when it is off
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oooohhhhhhhh nice touch, can I have a drop of that