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As soon as the DVLA get their fingers out with my reg transfer I'm picking up a new Mazda 5.

I would like to put my bike in the back upright, Mazda do a kit for this but it's stupid money. Has anyone done any DIY interior bike mounts by locking in the front forks?

Pics ideas please!


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 11:12 am
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...not sure how you'll hold the bike up off the floor with no wheels in.

We put our bikes upside down in our Octavia and lash them down using the eyelets that usually lock the seat backs in place. Works a treat and still leaves loads of space.

Don't know if that helps you though!


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 11:16 am
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The back wheel stays on, the front comes off and clips into some kind of mount across the boot floor.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 11:19 am
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Minoura do a rack for it, you need to take the front wheel out.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 11:19 am
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If you can leave the wheels in you can weld a turbo trainer to the floorpan and that'll hold the bike upright.

If you are careful and you take care to refit the carpet around it, it'll work just as good as the factory original, but for much more work and a great deal more expense.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 11:19 am
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>you can weld a turbo trainer to the floorpan <

Woa, sounds a bit extreme;-)

Dead easy to fabricate something with alu section / machine bolts and use a hollow rod up front the same width and dia as your front hub to lock the forks down with a QR


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 1:04 pm
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What’s the fllor of the boot like?

i.e. is it a rigid “False floor” or a bit of carpet placed straight over the floor pan?

I know my Golf Estate has a sort of False floor in the boot, a rigid carpeted cover that lifts up to give access to further cubby holes and the spare wheel, I could if I wanted whack a couple of holes into place a front axle adaptor of some sort like you’re suggesting I think, then fold one of the rear seats forwards to allow the back wheel to go in…

Something like [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=39590 ]this[/url] perhaps?


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 1:14 pm
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Turn the bike upside down and rest it on the bars? put your bags either side if that helps it stay upright. Does it really need to be more complicated than this? I've done it like this for years without any problems.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 1:16 pm
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upside down with the rear wheel still on works a treat for me.

right way up doesnt work, as it tips the forks forward, and makes the bike too long to fit. (its only a 206 estate)

but can wheel them in upsdide down with the front wheel off, tie them to the cargo eyes and put the front wheels around them.

good for 3 people and 3 bikes and riding gear in realtive comfort.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 1:22 pm
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Front wheel out,
Drop (split) rear seats.
Put first bike against side of car
Bit of foam between window and any metal
Add further bike(s) as required in similar way
Strap in to door handle / luggage eyes / seat back fittings as needed
Close boot
Drive off...

You may need to modify the above with some tarpaulin/old sheets to keep the interior nice but this approach has worked fine in every car I've owned (except the Mondeo estate where I can put two bagged bikes and a weekend's kit under the load cover in the boot).

As for cutting up a brand new Mazda 5's interior/bodywork... 😯 🙄 I can't imagine welding/bolting stuff to the car will do much for its warranty


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 1:33 pm
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I got some MDF & made a base that fitted into the floor of my car on the 60 split side. I then screwed in a block the same width as the front dropouts & stuck a QR through it.
At the back, there's 2 blocks that the chainstays sit on, with holes in to pass some webbing through & secure the rear of the bike to the blocks.

I plan on doing a few refinements to this at some point, as the new bike is slightly taller at the front & so only just goes in - I need to lower the QR mount as much as possible.

I could post some pics if they weren't stuck on my teeny phone SD card.
When I get a car with a taller roofline, I'll be doing the same thing, but stickin the QR on a rail, so I can bolt the fork in at the boot end, then slide the QR assembly down into the car on the rail before clipping it secure. Then the back fastening would be via a QR as well rather than blocks supporting the chainstays...

EDIT - this is obviously with the wheels off, which I stick in wheel bags to keep the car clean.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 1:53 pm
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Stumpy01 I’d love to see some pic’s, this thread has me thinking about how I could get both of my bikes in in a similar fashion i.e. upright, front wheel out possible on a slide in board or similar, anything that saves time/effort pre/post ride is a good idea in my book…

P.S. Anyone manage to get a DH bike in the back of their estate upright? (taller forks and all)


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 3:33 pm
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I've got the Minoura rack - works well...doesn't get used now though as my current bike doesn't have a QR front wheel and my saddle height is too high to go in the SMax upright...so it just sits in the garage...was used frequently on previous motors though...


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 4:06 pm
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Mine go in the back of a zafira upright - im meant to be ordering a 15qr pendle adapter that im going to bolt into a base plate. That reminds me.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 4:14 pm
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Just ordered this at £11.50 secure it to a wood/metal base plate and Bobs your uncle.

There are some good ideas on mtbr car and bioke forum involving pvc piping etc.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 4:27 pm
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Agree that it's just something else to faff around with...

My systems dead simple: flip the seats, throw a blanket down, throw the bike in. More bikes = more blankets 😉


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 4:45 pm
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i had a renault scenic and the seats popped out in the back . i used to unclip two of the rear seats and had an internal bike rack that clipped in their place that had two fork clamps on it . it was great 😉 if i needed to carry three i clipped the two in the mounts and slid one the other way round between the two meant i could have three adults and all bikes and kit inside.

still have the rack but no scenic lol i keep meaning to try to fit it in the mrs zafira somehow 😉


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 4:52 pm
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@Carbon337 Where did you order the fork adaptor from?

@Heather bash – currently that is my approach but it’s actually not he most efficient use of the space and and time wrestling a muddy bike (both wheels off) in and out of the car each time is a pain in the arse, blankets never cover everything so a pedal always snags something, ideally I don’t want to have to fold both rear seats so I can leave the nippers mounted on the 40% split and still get a bike in comfortably with the rear wheel still fitted, plus a boot full of riding kit/spares/food and just Go, not too much to ask is it?


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 5:10 pm
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cookeaa - looks like a Pendle clamp/mount - [url] http://www.pendle-bike.co.uk [/url]


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 5:22 pm
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>not too much to ask is it? <

Agree, yours would be a neat engineered solution but I dont want the faff of connecting another piece of kit into and out the car if it can be avoided. Plus with a house full of rugby players and battle scarred bikes I'm beyond caring about the car interior and a few more scratches. Also need to use a large uninterrupted area for other things so I've got a Mazda 6 Est and large blankets 😉

Good luck with whatever you cobble together - and post up some pics.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 5:47 pm
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I can tell its a pendle mount, I wanted to know where to purchase it at the above mentioned price, their site is a bit gash when it comes to buying spares...


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 5:58 pm
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Cookeaa - I just emailed pendle at their main email on their site. Then just rang them and they processed it over phone. She was sending it out today so i may even get it next day.

You can get 15mm, 9mm or 20mm. I fi get it tomorrow i will email you pics of my setup.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 7:46 pm
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We use bike bags, the bags stand upright and it keeps the car clean.


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 9:40 pm
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i just drop the seats in my estate and lay the bikes in the back on their side. I put a blanket down to protect the bike/seats and we are good to go....way the need to have the bike upright.
i put a luggage net up sometimes..


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 10:46 pm
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Ooooh Ta Carbon:

cookeaa@hotmail.com


 
Posted : 04/02/2010 11:34 pm
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We made a one off rack for MBUK to hold bikes upright in the back of a van using the adapter pictured above once. Reading this thread perhaps there is a market for a more general solution that fits plenty of cars.

To those above talking about web ordering - we tend to limit spare parts to phone sales so we can make sure that you are ordering the correct parts. Although we don't mind people ordering parts to make up their own solutions.


 
Posted : 05/02/2010 9:24 am
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What you need is an old front hub with QR (or mega cheap 2nd hand), U bolt or stainless jubilee clip, and length of unistrut. Using U bolt/clip attach the hub to the unistrut and thats it! Lay the assembly across the back of car/van/pick-up/trailer deck and you have QR mounting point for forks to support your bike upright. Just leave in garage or wherever when not in use - Simples!

I have even made a roof rack this way (20 years ago as poor student!)- BTW; if anyone starts making these and flogging them I want a cut 🙂 !!


 
Posted : 05/02/2010 10:00 am
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id like a bar that could be extended/reduced to hold itself in the rear of the car with movable fork mounts on. i just havent bothered my arse yet ;-0


 
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Just found this on a Mazda forum....this is exactly what I am after :mrgreen:
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Posted : 05/02/2010 10:56 am
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if you could make the bar adjustable to squish it up to the cars insides to keep it tight that would be great

i will see if i can find a pic of my renault bit its great


 
Posted : 05/02/2010 11:01 am
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one on ebay here actually ( not mine lol) it could be made to fit other cars no doubt. thats what i intend doing anyway
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Renault-Scenic-Interior-cycle-carrier_W0QQitemZ280457010984QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq20100127?IMSfp=TL100127156001r14485


 
Posted : 05/02/2010 11:03 am
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Dunno about a Mazda but in my Zafira it's just:

Both back rows of seats down. Old curtains deployed to keep car clean.

Drop or remove seatpost.
Remove front wheel.
Wedge back wheel between slid forward rear seats and door post.
Bungee round top of seatpost to loops for attaching these (already present in Zafira).

Job's a good un

No movement. No brackets required. Done in a minute or two.


 
Posted : 05/02/2010 12:08 pm
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I am looking at this for our new car (xc90) and volvo do do one for ht ecar but they put it over the back seats where as i would like to do some thing that leaves some of the seats in place so the above solution may work well just need to get some fork holders.


 
Posted : 05/02/2010 12:23 pm
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Cookeaa - I'll try to get the pics off my phone & onto a 'pooter this weekend.

I like the look of that Pendle attachment, but for my current car it would be way too high.
Currently I've got a 10mm (I think) mdf board. On top of that I've made a block that the QR goes through & made it absolutely as low as I could for the forks to attach to without catching the main base board.
I plan on removing this QR mount, cutting a hole in the board & mounting the QR coming up from the underside. This will gain me about 15mm, which doesn't sound much, but will just make it that little bit easier.

EDIT - the reason I mount my bike upright, rather than just laying it in flat is to give me more space in the boot for any other stuff I need with me & it also allows one of the rear seats to be used.


 
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Just received the pendle attachment - it isnt what I expected - basically i just got the green cylinder (but its gold) thats in that pic above. Not the whole clamp/bracket.

After contacting Pendle my "cheap" idea for a clap has now gone out the window - they want an extra 28.60 for the clamp so after paying 11.50 the total cost is 40.00.

Think I will return the adapter and see what I can muster together myself.

🙁


 
Posted : 05/02/2010 1:07 pm
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How about using one of these:

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Posted : 05/02/2010 1:27 pm
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Right I think I'm gonna lash some sort of basic MDF board + old hub or axle arrangement which should be good for one of my MTBs and the Road bike but the 20mm Bolt through/170mm forked one might require a different approach I think... still 2 out of 3 ain't bad


 
Posted : 05/02/2010 2:35 pm
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Why not just roll the bike in upside down? It's still upright. so takes up little room. The bars offer some support and you can either bungee it or just pack stuff around it to stop it falling over under any wild maneuvers.


 
Posted : 05/02/2010 5:08 pm
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Bit late on this I know, but Cookeaa asked for some pics....here they are finally off my phone & on the computer!

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The tubing on the top of the block in the 3rd pic was meant to compress as the webbing strap is tightened around the stays to help hold it in place. It worked on the old bike, but the new Stumpy has asymmetric chainstays so they need some adjustment.
In the second pic you can see the QR mounted above the base. I need to take that off, cut a slot in the base & get a new mount made up that fits in below to lower the height of the mount for the new bike.


 
Posted : 07/02/2010 12:08 pm
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Thanks for the pic’s stumpy (that’s a very attentive cat) that arrangement is pretty much what I’m gonna try, a mate at work apparently has some spare ply (1200 X 600 X 12mm he reckons) which should be bob on, I’m considering my options for supporting the rear end, wheel in (preferred) Vs wheel out (less space claim) and weather to support the stays or BB or indeed just have some blocks for wedging the back tyre into…

Looking at yours I reckon your focus has probably got more a touch head room than My Golf which has a flush load platform, but I have a good deep boot I may need to get “innovative” I would like to keep the flush load tray in but if it has to come out then so be it…

Cheers for that…


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 1:29 pm
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HA HA - the attentive cat is a garden ornament given to us by the (almost) out-laws so has to be positioned in the garden or there'll be questions.
A friend thought it looked more like a stunned ferret or meerkat!

It's a Seat Ibiza, not a Focus that this is stuck in and the headroom is pretty tight. I'd have thought that the Golf would have a bit more headroom than mine. I initially wanted to position the bike more to the right but the slope inside towards the window meant taht the handlebars clashed with the ceiling.
I'd like to be able to keep the back wheel in, but there's not enough room length-wise to do so.
On the new bike, it's even tighter as the bike seems a bit longer. When I mod the QR mounting point I'll be moving it further forward to give me another couple of inches.
The rear mount was made in a rush with the limited tools available. Ideally I'd re-do it and make it such that the rear drop-outs line up with another QR. I need to spend a weekend messing about with it again really.

Oh and both the old & new stumpjumper need their forks 'turning down' to fit in. The Reba's from 115-85mm & the Fox from 140-100mm. They probably would go in with them left fully extended, but there'd be a heap load more roof lining scrapage.

I'll probably post some more pics up when i finally get round to tinkering with it.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 2:18 pm
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dragging this one back for a quick update.

here is my modified Pendal adapter part on a custom bracket.

Bracket needs cleaned up a bit and sprayed. I can now swap the gold bit for a 9mm or 20mm adapter in the future.

I intend to screw it onto a wider bracket backed in velcro that will stick to the carpet in the boot.

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Posted : 11/02/2010 12:46 pm